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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Fortune on 2005-05-23 at 08:57:07
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ May 22 2005, 07:30 PM)
The action scenes were awesome, but the acting was terrible. I especially enjoyed making fun of Obi Wan's line "I can't watch anymore". No emotion whatsoever. :/
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Jedi's aren't supposed to show their emotions, dur. The only bad acting to me was Anakin, he way over did the lack of emotion. At times, to me, he seemed like a robot. Everytime (after he had joined the Sith) that he had any human interactions, other than those with Padame, all he would say is "you underestimate my power," which was highly-corny to me.

QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ May 22 2005, 11:33 PM)
YODA > Obi Wan > Anakin > etc..

Yoda pwns...
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Darth Vader pwns—the movie all together censored.gif ing pwned.

QUOTE(Rantent @ May 22 2005, 08:13 PM)
General Greives was awesome! He needed a better fight scene though. Other than that the movie was ok. Not as good as the originals, but better than episode 1 and 2.
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General Grevis is a censored.gif ing panzy. Everytime he was presented with a fight, he ran away! And the only time he did fight, he had four lightsabers and still got his ass kicked. Episode II wasn't great, but Episode I was awesome merely because of the Darth Maul fight scene. The fact that he died turned me off a lot—he was so badass. The whole Count Dooku character is stupid too. I mean, who the hell is afraid of some cranky old man? He's lucky he didn't break a hip.

QUOTE(Zombie @ May 23 2005, 12:59 AM)
http://movies.channel.aol.com/feature/star...ode_3_video.adp
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nice lie

but the general wasnt made intell they stated production on episode 3

making episode number 4
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It's very possible that General Grevis was in the first two movies—for he had acheived a great load of power and responsibility, which doesn't come right off the bat. I wish they would have given some more background information on him… I can only sit and wonder why the hell he had live body parts but at the same time was a droid.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe on 2005-05-23 at 10:18:40
i loved that movie i agree with the first thing said. i think its a good movie to finish the excitment of the triligy
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LordVodka on 2005-05-23 at 10:36:02
Meh, still, by far, even though 3 was supposed to close up the loose ends... It doesn't really... not to mention the huge Time Gap between 3 and 4 {Which, btw, I think was the best}[/opinion]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2005-05-23 at 12:01:21
QUOTE(Fortune @ May 23 2005, 05:57 AM)
Jedi's aren't supposed to show their emotions, dur. The only bad acting to me was Anakin, he way over did the lack of emotion. At times, to me, he seemed like a robot. Everytime (after he had joined the Sith) that he had any human interactions, other than those with Padame, all he would say is "you underestimate my power," which was highly-corny to me.
Darth Vader pwns—the movie all together  censored.gif ing pwned.
General Grevis is a  censored.gif ing panzy. Everytime he was presented with a fight, he ran away! And the only time he did fight, he had four lightsabers and still got his ass kicked. Episode II wasn't great, but Episode I was awesome merely because of the Darth Maul fight scene. The fact that he died turned me off a lot—he was so badass. The whole Count Dooku character is stupid too. I mean, who the hell is afraid of some cranky old man? He's lucky he didn't break a hip.
It's very possible that General Grevis was in the first two movies—for he had acheived a great load of power and responsibility, which doesn't come right off the bat. I wish they would have given some more background information on him… I can only sit and wonder why the hell he had live body parts but at the same time was a droid.
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impossible gl said grevis wasnt made intell episode 3, it says in the video
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2005-05-23 at 16:15:06
QUOTE(Ultimo @ May 23 2005, 12:31 AM)
Chancellor Palpatine: All Jedis are enemies of the Republic.

Clone Trooper: Yes sir! Orders are understood.

Chancellor Palpatine: Wait, don't you want to know why?

Clone Trooper: No sir!
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I thought they said in Episode II that the clones were engineered to follow orders without questioning them. I could be wrong though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-05-23 at 16:36:54
It would of made sense to make that clear during that point in time, you're not going to refer back to Episode II just to learn that, they should of just said why right there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-05-23 at 16:49:47
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ May 22 2005, 05:32 PM)
How does Leia remeber her real mother?

"Do you remeber you mother, your real mother?"
"A litte; she died when I was very young.  She was... very beautiful"
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About that topic, @ the start of the movie When Adakin first sees Padme he says something like
"It's been ages since i have seen you"
And she responds with
"I have good news, i'm pregnant"

I'm like HOLY CRAP MAN, hate to break it to you Darth Vader but *heavy breathing* your NOT Lukes father.

QUOTE(Rantent @ May 22 2005, 08:13 PM)
General Greives was awesome! He needed a better fight scene though. Other than that the movie was ok. Not as good as the originals, but better than episode 1 and 2.
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Besides looking like the aliens from 5th Element the fighting stuff with him was pretty cool. But the 99% robot with like no background info was kinda like woah, wtf.

QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ May 22 2005, 11:33 PM)
YODA > Obi Wan > Anakin > etc..

Yoda pwns...
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I belive it was
Yoda > Count Dooku > Qui Gon Jin > Obi Wan > Anakin

Overall i liked the movie, it was very cool but also it was quite corny in alot of the diolog.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-05-23 at 17:17:01
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ May 23 2005, 03:49 PM)
I belive it was
Yoda > Count Dooku > Qui Gon Jin > Obi Wan > Anakin
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In this movie, it was more like...

Yoda > Anakin > Lord Sidious > Count Dooku > Qui Gon Jin > Obi Wan

Anakin was just at a great disadvantage in the last battle.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-05-23 at 17:20:55
All of you that are questioning Grevious should just watch the damn clone wars miniseries. In that he owns many jedi, I haven't seen the movie yet, but I find it weird that obi wan seems to have killed him so easily. Although Mace Windu almost owned Grevious with one force move in the miniseries but grevious ran away in a ship thing with palpatine at the end.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-05-23 at 17:25:13
Dude, Darth Sidious owns everyone in force powers. Besides Darth Vader, he has that Force Choke.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-05-23 at 17:27:05
That's the thing though, there are varying levels of skill. Greivous was obviously weaker than Jedi Masters like Mace and Obi-Wan, but stronger than the ones he sucessfully killed. Also, he tends to use a lot of tricks to win fights, like grenades/blasters/traps.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2005-05-23 at 17:34:11
Um.. I personally think that Star Wars, the first three, are okay, but all of them are badly acted. The last two sucked bad. Darth Vader is the only well-made character in the entire series. Maybe Episode 3 will be good.. I doubt it. If you can't gather this from my posts: I haven't seen Episode 3.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe)r( on 2005-05-23 at 19:23:18
the second one sucked...
about the third one... he wasnt even touching the lava so how did he catch on fire... yoda talks backwards kinda(I Hope, Right You Are). does he always do that? Wouldnt u expect them to say something while there Staring at the death star?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MindArchon on 2005-05-23 at 19:41:08
Yes, Yoda has always talked like that. That is what he was famous for..

There are mainly two theories on how leia says she remembers her mother:

1. Through the force, she could feel her mother and stuff.

2. When she was adopted her foster mother died really young, then Organa remarried. She just remembers her adopted mother.

Here are some more things you should realize.

1. R2D2 did not get a memory wipe. Only C3PO did. So therefore, R2D2 knows everything that happened from episode 1 to episode 6. He KNEW who yoda was in EP5, but was just playing around with him (maybe for lukes sake?). He was smart and knew how to keep his mouth shut.

2. Chewbacca also knew who Obi-Wan was in episode 4. He just didnt treat him with respect for some reason?

I suggest you watch Eps 4-6 again. Watching episode 3 helps you perceive things differently.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-05-23 at 19:59:05
My problems with this movie:

1. How do the driods 'fly' off Obi-Wan's ship? Is he accelerating? He doesn't appear to be. Space wind? I don't think they are that strong. Gravity? Non existant that far away from the planet.

2. How do they shift direction as the ship is turning upside down? If you have artificial gravity, wouldn't it be pulling you towards the bottom of the ship at all times? If so then how do they end up sliding towards the side of the ship when it's on its side?

3. How do Anakin and Obi-Wan not die almost instantly from the intense heat surrounding them as they are fighting literally feet from the lava. I understand that the hover platforms and driods have shields to protect them from the heat ... but Anakin and Obi-Wan obviously don't and nor is the shield from the platform/driod protecting them.

Meh, whatever.

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QUOTE(MindArchon @ May 23 2005, 06:41 PM)
2. Chewbacca also knew who Obi-Wan was in episode 4. He just didnt treat him with respect for some reason?

I suggest you watch Eps 4-6 again. Watching episode 3 helps you perceive things differently.
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I'm pretty sure GL actually wrote 1-3 afterwords, creating a bunch of conflicts. However you can easily explain some things. Like Obi-Wan (now Ben Kenobi in 4), claims he doesn't remember having driods before (and he didn't) but they were obviously owned by Anakin and he knew that. Maybe memory loss? And Chewbacca just might not recognize him, that + using a different name can lead to his behavior.

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QUOTE(MB)BOunder @ May 23 2005, 06:23 PM)
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The intense heat from the lava should have done that earlier. Realize that lava can reach temperatures of 700 to 1300 degrees Celsius, probably more in some situations. In the situation they were in, it would appear that the lava would be temperatures greater than 1500 Celsius (2000, I think is the hottest lava has been recorded on Earth and remember this is a planet pretty much made of it).

Now lets be generous and assume that the temperature of the air surrounding them is 10% that. 150 degrees Celsius ... thats 50 more than boiling water. The air surrounding them at that temperature would have instant effects on their skin. Their skin would be burning. Now the more realistic estimate of the temperature would lead me to believe that they would be dead within a few seconds of standing at least 5 feet from the lava.

Now this isn't even taking into account lava gases (produced from the consumption of oxygen surrounding the lava and the lava itself) which alone could kill them if inhaled.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2005-05-23 at 20:52:22
Hey, its a movie. TV doesn't have to make sense.

Why do trees grow on the floor?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2005-05-24 at 16:07:59
we thought it was dumb because of how everything happened and the story and corny acting. one guy just sais two things and then every jedi dies. the story is extremely confusing. the acting wasnt the greatest either. also, they messed up one of the scences. when padme lands on the death star and falls to the ground. she was wearing short shorts. when she gets up with obi-won shes wearing pants. also some of the things chu said. the action and fights were the good parts, especially when you have loads of trekies behind you. this guy made a wookie noise during the previews.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-05-24 at 16:11:47
Chu, the force is the anwer to all your lava burning questions tongue.gif

Also in the miniseries I don't think Grevious uses many tricks to kill all the jedi, at least near the end when he was fighting like 6 of them at once, he was just using lightsabers.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe on 2005-05-24 at 16:12:53
QUOTE(Ultimo @ May 23 2005, 12:31 AM)
Chancellor Palpatine: All Jedis are enemies of the Republic.

Clone Trooper: Yes sir! Orders are understood.

Chancellor Palpatine: Wait, don't you want to know why?

Clone Trooper: No sir!

Chancellor Palpatine: Don't you want to hear how I convinced all of the Clone Troopers that the very Jedi you've been fighting with are enemies?

Clone Trooper: No sir! Clarity in a movie is very bad.

Chancellor Palpatine: I see...Well, go on and kill the Jedi I suppose.
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HAHA thats soooo TRUE, they did explain little things like that which pissed me off.! but over all it was a good movie.

another confusing part is how anikan lived the lava >.<
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-05-24 at 16:17:17
That problem can be solved with this simple equation

Palpatine = Darth Sidious
Darth Sidious = Sith
Sith = Enemy of jedi

So therefore if the dark lord of the Sith is in charge of the republic then the jedi must be enemies of the republic. Basically they are enemies because the Sith just want the jedi to be destroyed so the Sith can rule and Palpatine can create his empire.

BTW, in the 2 movie it says that the clone troopers have been genetically altered to be more like obedient and less independent than the person they were cloned from which was Jango Fett
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LordVodka on 2005-05-24 at 16:46:24
QUOTE(Voyager7456. @ May 23 2005, 03:15 PM)
I thought they said in Episode II that the clones were engineered to follow orders without questioning them. I could be wrong though.
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Read your very own post... right there, it says that the CHANCELLOR said a question. The Clone Trooper simply said 'Yes Sir' 'Orders are understood' and 'No Sir'... no where in there is a single questioning statement by the Trooper
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2005-05-24 at 17:25:31
I thought the movie was horrible. I admit it was better than the first two (and really if you think about it you can take out Episode 1 altogether and the series would be fine), but it doesn't hold up at all to most movies out there. The writing was so horrible and dry that it made me whince. When Anakin declares his love to Padme, the acting is horrid and their lines are very cliché and unrealistic - not to mention Vader's explosive "NooooOoooooOOoOOOOOO!!!!!!!11" later on which was totally un-Vader-like to me.

The effects were great, but that's to be expected from Lucas. The issue I had, though, was that hi directing is pretty bad. I think his fame and the series' fame has gotten to his head to the point that he just doesn't care about its overall look as a film. Yeah its an action film at heart so maybe I shouldn't rate it as if it were an Oscar-worthy film, but one can't try that hard to put dramatic elements into an action film without some deep desire for more than good action.

I also felt the duels were pretty disappointing. I mean everyone knows Yoda gets his ass kicked and gets exiled while the chancellor names himself the emperor. And then we all know Obi-wan beats Anakin, who then gains the Vader costume. So there was no real surprise or excitement for me.

Also on a side note, did anyone see the Millenium Falcon in the background at one point? Wasn't that Lando's ship? Unless Lando got it from someone else (just as Han did), it seems kinda awkward seeing it there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-05-24 at 17:37:49
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-05-24 at 17:58:26
Lucas does that just a 'Easter eggs', if you will.

I think the acting is purposefully bad, just to prove a point that we still watch it because of the story.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-05-24 at 20:02:18
Personally, I thought the acting in Episodes IV-VI was much worse, as were the lightsabre battles.

Mark Hamill just cracks me up, and the 'battle' between Vader and Obi-Wan was just a ridiculous granny fight with sticks painted blue or red.
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