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See 2005 guiness book of world records. They're out there, and they're watching.

Are you saying that you just shut off MGS after the first Ninja scene? What the hell is wrong with you?

I was refering to the entire series, not just that one game. And from the sound of it, you never even finished the game.

Hmmm, how about World War II games? I love World War II. Anything with LotR or Star Wars stamped on it has a good storyline too (well most Star Wars games, mind you). A game can be both "save the world" and "original" at the same time.

San Adreas. Enough said.

Screw that!

God. The number of people who think that game was semi-decent...

here here, star wars should be a main stream religion.

Yep, I didn't finish it, but now I know what it is. Basically, it has lots of drama, twists and shockers. Though they build the story up with treaties, things that happened in the past and that stuff, it kills it for me when they stick in people like Raven, who just happens to stand the cold, even though he is naked. Also, you have Psycho Mantis, who just happens to float around, making things trippy. If tthe setting was in a medieval world like FF games, I wouldn't be bothered. It just seems it's wasted since all the built up info that have makes it sound realistic. Even though the plot is complex, it's still another STW game. The characters, seemed OVERLY emotional at times... It's still better than many games out there and I bet it took a lot of thought to make up.

Best ones are already mentioned, but... Golden Sun, StarCraft and Zelda: OoT.

I haven't played any games that comes even close to the amount of character building and story telling as these games. Then again, I haven't played many of those classical SNES RPGs either.

Haven't played Golden Sun a lot, but I remember a huge rock crushing my town.

Starcraft was interesting.

As for OoT, it's terrible. I say this because the plot is VERY SIMILAR to A Link to the Past. You have the six sages which translates to the six maidens in LttP. There are two versions of the same world just like LttP. Finally, you have to fight... dun dun dun Ganondorf!

If it was original, it would be okay, but that would be given to LttP. It's more of a copy, though they switched a couple things.

I'd say MM would have the most original plot for a Zelda game.

Yet the game itself was not nearly as good.

I don't even know what STW stands for.

I don't see why you're so upset over them doing that, I like it actually. It doesn't really add to the story but adds to the fun of the game. They don't really try to make it realistic, as seen in all metal gears (you really have to finish a game to know). If you would play any of them all the way through you would realize it's more of an alternate story line based off our history ... but even then it's not as seen in Metal Gear Solid 3.

Deus Ex.
Half-Life Series.
Halo storyline= generic to the gagging point.
Hitman 2.

Like I said, I don't have a PS2. I heard MGS2 wasn't that great in terms of plot, but I haven't heard much about MGS3.

Oh and when I say STW I mean save the world.

Finally, I think it's safe to say though the plot isn't original (stw), the execution was innovative, complex and you got to know a lot about all the characters (maybe a little too much...).

The melding of realistic historical references and super natural figures like Raven or Mantis just doesn't feel right in my opinion. Snake doesn't seem interesting since all the characters have a weakness, but he doesn't seem to have any. Add to the fact that he is nearly emotionless and cold hearted throughout the game, gave me the feeling that he lacks personality. This bottom area is just my opinion though.

As for Mr. Shotgun, I like your tastes in storylines. I would like you to expand on what Hitman 2 and Deus Ex were about.

A few I like...

Psi-Ops: Basicly, you had your mind wiped, and you were physically altered to infiltrate a terrorist organization. You try to help defend a facility from them, but it is taken, and so are you. As you play, you regain your psi-powers, and find out the secrets of "The Movement", who are trying to make a "Super-Psi" person.

Syphon Filter: I just like the way it was done. Someone makes a virus that spreads and kills quickly, and puts bombs containing it into the New York subway. It may be one of the "OMG IT'S SAVING THE WORLD!!!111" but you gotta realize, that this could happen in real life. Spreading a virus through the subways would end up infecting the whole world.

Half Life: Seems kinda like a standard "RAWR, experiment gone wrong, save thw rold..." kinda game, but they handled it really well. I also like how they made two other games that go along with the story.

MGS3

Snake isn't emotionless or cold hearted. You really need to play the games to realize this. And you could say he does have a weakness ... it would be ignorance. He is a tool and he never finds this out until its too late.

He says to himself numerous times that he only feels "alive" when he's on the battlefield. How about you point out some stuff from the game instead of telling me to play since you are obviously the MGS master.

Or you could say he is too obedient. Just like how soldiers are trained to follow orders in war without question. They lose their will and should they be defiant, they are shot.

So just because he only feels 'alive' on the battlefield means that off it he's emotionless and cold hearted? I'm not going to point out things from the story that backup what I'm saying because if anyone ever does play it it will ruin a lot of the game. I'm just leaving it open.

I think enough people wrote "Star Wars" in the religion box on the 2000 US census that it was accepted as a religion...

And StarCraft has a fairly linear storyline. Three races, all fighting for dominance in the galaxy. It's actually a dumbed-down version of Warhammer 40,000. Spaces Marines could be Terran, Tyranids could be Zerg, and Eldar would be Protoss. Except Warhammer 40k has many more races, so you'd have to say that that game would be much harder to balance. Seriously, I would take a good game of Warhammer 40,000 (we're talking about the tabletop war game, not a PC game) over StarCraft anyday.

Check it out at Games Workshop's Official Site.

It takes a level of strategy most of you cannot comprehend. StarCraft has nowhere near the level of tactics and in-depth "gameplay" that this game does.

Any storyline that isn't like "kill the evil" or "omfg you're evil, kill the good" or "save the world/somebody" is already decent :/

I heard Hitman is nice.
Painkiller's story is interesting.
Doom3 overall explanation of what happened was nice.
Command and Conquer RA/TS stories are decent. (2 nations make war is rather cliche though)

... don't remember more !

Revelade, there are actually 7 sages/"wise men." Even though they both revolve around the same premise of Ganondorf obtaining the Triforce of Power, they are both executed differently and differ alot already, besides the ending. You say Chrono Trigger might be a good game if it had good "twists and plots", meaning you've never finished it, or you've never played it?

edit: So you haven't. And by your standards, the use of time travel in THE MODERN AGE WOULD BE ZOMG, IDIOTIC.

I just want to say one thing that's really really annoying:

Ok give me a single quote saying ANY of the producers, creators, or anyone on the MGS staff that said "We're planning to make a realistic game". There are realistic elements that doesn't mean it's what they're shooting for, there's sound meters and camoflagues because it's a STEALTH GAME. Realistic style of Graphics? Well FF looks pretty realistic, Soul Caliber looks pretty realistic, so does Halo, and a bunch of other guns. But amazingly I don't think I could survie a inferno from a giant demon, or 20 slashs of swords to the face, or even an entire army of aliens with laser guns and rocket launchers. BUT WAIT THEY WEREN'T GOING FOR THE REALISTIC FEEL EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT LOOK REAL (Or nto completely cartoony).

So stop saying that they are trying to be realistic if only fans say "It's pretty realistic" it's just the small things that you use offen that are realistic which you notice and make you think it's suppose to be realistic. Also your saying the story is bad because a ninja slices a bullet in half? Well for some reason i don't think it's realistic for a single human to parade around the world with a plasma blaster killing everything in sight, or for enemies to respawn after you leave a room and come back and there being an unlimted supply of them. Also Metroid Prime and MP2 were so different in MP1 you lose all your weapons in a big explosion and you ahve to find them as other things unfold and you kill some dragon thing. In MP2, you lose all your weapons the plot unfolds and you kill some dark thing. Wow, what a change that's like compeltely new and never been done before.

In every Metriod you lose your weapons and have to regain them over time. It's one of the dumbest things in the game but it's still necessary. I just wish they were more creative about it.

EarthBound! The goal of the game is pretty cliched (save the world type stuff), just how the characters do it makes it interesting.

Xenogears also had a pretty immense storyline. I'm not really sure if it falls under the "save the world" genre. It's been a while since I played it. :/