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Oh, then I shoulden't really get into Java. I won't be making any kind of multiplatform programs.

I would recommend Java and Python over other languages. Their ability to run on different types of OS's is extremely valuable.

The only disadvantage you'll have is speed but it's not noticable unless you get into super uber hard large programming project.

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I know QBasic too and a little asm. I can do applications on VB.net as well, and someone told me that knowing C++ learn C# is very easy.

basic C++, javascript, python (not a ton, but a decent amount), Blitz3D (dont ask, but i like it), Perl, and enough common sense to understand everything else except Java.... stuipid java -.-

Java's not stupid.
Java is godly.

I'm learning C++ in my computer science class, does that count? o_O It's not really that hard yet. ;/

I like Java because its easily to compile and it doesnt give you any error messages. Stupid ansi/iso c++ is pissing me off. ><

Java sucks compared to C# 2.0 (I hope Microsoft starts paying me for advertising).

Lol, lately I've been really bored and had lots of free time so I've been going through my Visual Basic reference book and fiddling with programs in Visual Basic. It's a lot of fun and I've been creating noob programs! And Legacy has been compiling them for me

Tell your teacher that:

• The C# language is not platform-specific. Microsoft does not own the standard.
• The .NET Framework is being developed cross-platform. The project, called Mono, is very far along, and he should look it up.
• It doesn't matter even if it weren't cross platform... does he hate Windows for being Windows only? The vast majority of people have Windows, so it wouldn't matter.

What a hippie.

Explain how windows is superior to alternative OSs.

After trying Linux, for the first time a few years ago, I feel cheated when I log on a friends computer under a WinX OS. Of course anything that is free is always better than something that costs $100+. Linux ftw!!

I wasn't necessarily saying that, I was saying that he's a hippie for hating Windows.




I don't know if I'd say the current version of Windows is the best, though it easily may be. It is extremely simple to install hardware, there are excellent development tools on it, and there isn't the expectation that your software should be open source. In addition, it is very, very stable, and you run it without a reboot for months at a time.

Windows Vista, however, will blow every other OS (including XP) out of the water.

Majority rules.

Windows has the reputation of running tons of needless sh!t right out of the box and as you install applications on it.. The amount of needless sh!t increases exponentially.

The nice thing about linux, even though I have not taken on this task myself.. the ability to rip out absolutely everything that you don't need. Therefore as a result your computer will only be spending cpu cycles on what you want it to be doing.

You might say you can remove alot of stuff running in the background .. one thing you cannot do away with is the GUI itself. The GUI in itself takes up tons of CPU time which could be better spent doing other things.



That being said I still use Windows as my primary OS just because convience.

The GUI doesn't cost sh*t to run, and Windows has so many more programs and is so much easier to use with different hardware that it's worth the 200 bucks it costs.

Please, stfu if you don't know what you're talking about.
1st) GUI DOES slow down the comp. You don't usually notice it, because GUI is always on.
2nd) Windows has so many programs because everybody uses it and not because microsoft has made it easy to program with. It's just convenience.
3rd) Easiest things are the lest customizable ones and thus the worst ones. Especially windows is sometimes a pain when you are using a hardware that it doesn't recognize, because it does everything automatically trying to be smarter than you.
4th) 200$ is TOO expensive. I mean, develop an OS and such costs money but a lot of people buy it, so it could be a lot cheaper and bill gates would continue earning a lot of money.

I have to agree though, that windows XP is very stable. Windows 95 was very crappy since it was built over an existing OS (MSDOS) and crashed a lot. Windows 98 is just Windows 95 with some new stuff.
However Windows Vista will NEVER EVER EVER pwn every other OS. Windows Vista has some cool and great new stuff and I think that it'll make development under it easier; however it'll never have the speed and power of linux, and that's mostly because it has to run the GUI plus a bunch of useless services and processes.

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What also pisses me off is that you have to buy the computer, plus the OS, plus the MS Office, plus the developing tools (like VS.net), plus...

And microsoft's software is not cheap -.-"

Everything in Linux is free. Every program is free. Just about every program is open source. The only reason Linux hasn't kicked Window's ass yet is because of compatibility issues. Once that is fixed, I can assure you Windows will fall.

Just be glad many Linux developers realize Windows exists and make programs for you. Example: Firefox.

[So many Windows developers have contributed to Firefox for Windows, and you give them no credit.]

The real reason that Linux hasn't kicked Windows ass is because it is much harder to use. The average guy (and even impatient people who know a lot about computers) don't want to waste time trying to get Linux to work with new hardware, or trying to peice together whatever program you want, etc.

In addition -- and this hasn't always been true -- it's now easier to make Windows software than it is for any other PC OS. The days of the Win32 API are long gone, so it's the perfect time to make the switch if you already haven't.

Have you ever used Linux?

I can testify to the fact Linux is by no means easy to use.

And how is it hard to use?

Because you have to type "aptitude search" or "apt get" or (OMG!) "apt install"? (If I'm remembering my syntax correctly..)