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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-09-28 at 23:58:58
QUOTE(Dr.Shotgun @ Sep 28 2005, 03:30 PM)
Joysticks were bad quakity, they felt sticky and offered too much resistance. Plus the contoller was very badly handed, lefties couldn't play games as well and since there are mainly righties, the left side of the contoller was never really used. It felt really awkward, I always underestimated how far the joystick went. The controller is one of the main reasons I kept getting creamed in goldeneye.
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Excuse me, but when COULD lefties play gaming?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shadow-Killa_04 on 2005-09-29 at 01:37:06
Well, to me the PSP is simply superior to the DS. The DS has 2 screens, but only 1 is really used. It does have 1 touch screen though, kinda cool. But the psp has better graphics, can play movies, hold music, and 1000 other superior things.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-09-29 at 22:04:43
QUOTE(Shadow-Killa_04 @ Sep 29 2005, 12:37 AM)
Well, to me the PSP is simply superior to the DS. The DS has 2 screens, but only 1 is really used. It does have 1 touch screen though, kinda cool. But the psp has better graphics, can play movies, hold music, and 1000 other superior things.
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Interesting point of view there.

I just seem to prioritize other things than the things you mentioned.

As for your reasons, 2 screens are used in certain applications such as messaging. I do agree that many games SHOULD use touch screen, but leave that screen blank, to save battery consumption.

The PSP has better graphic CAPABILITY, but ultimately, the graphics are determined by the developers. The DS CAN play movies AND play music, thanks to the play-yan attachment. I'd like to know what exactly the 1000 things are, as you put it.

Frankly, though I dislike Sony, I'm disappointed by the DS. The games everyone raves about aren't interesting to me. Advance Wars? I already played 1 and 2 to death. I don't need a double dash sequel that I need to shell $35 for. Nintendogs? It could be interesting, but I already have dogs, so it would be cruel to my dogs. Mario DS? I discovered I hated platforming games a long time ago, so I sold it.

Yea, there's Nintendo WiFi and stuff, but online gaming for me... is on a PC, where it's FASTER and doesn't need recharging.

The games I was hyped about like Jam with the Band and Electroplankton aren't even coming out, so that disappoints me.

So I'm coming to the conclusion that I'll have to sell my DS. I'm on the fence as I'll get ripped off, but at least that money could be put into better investments.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-30 at 01:42:48
Wow... actually im just going to give you facts.
The whole thing is 2 big to put on a post so i put it on a text.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-09-30 at 07:34:58
You can have up to 8 players with game sharing on PSP. Touch screen preference is dependent on the person, I hated the touch screen gameplay after a short while playing it.

And PSP's battery life lasts up to 6 hours playing. The reason its lower than DS is because it loads from UMD's which basically says "I'm a cheaper and easier way to store things than an expensive as hell cartridge".

In my eyes, your comparisons are flawed. The DS is innovative with the touch screen but thats per preference. The PSP's graphics WERE NOT determined by the fact they have to have the capability of playing movies, the fact they are so powerful outside that fact means they can also play movies. Its just extra codecs and some added functions to the firmware. Nothing more.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-30 at 16:27:50
I cant find the original stuff on it but sony said that it was going to make PSP have PS2 quality graphics so that they will have the ability to play movies. that was there original goal.

Cartriges are not expensive as hell. UMD's are cheaper but the 128meg chips are only like a dollar a chip. You can buy a 5gb SD card from fry's for $20. and they make a profit from that. And the PSP battery life changes a lot depending on what you are doing . They maxed it out on about 8 hours but the normal player cant reach that. And it can reach 8 hours on a low backlight with the sound turned down.

And touch screen may be a prefence and some people may perfer an analog stick but the amount of things that are made possible with a touch screen compared to a joystick are a lot. And more people perfer the touch screen than not.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-09-30 at 18:01:22
QUOTE(Kept_Wheat @ Sep 30 2005, 03:27 PM)

I cant find the original stuff on it but sony said that it was going to make PSP have PS2 quality graphics so that they will have the ability to play movies. that was there original goal.
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You can't find it, I never heard them say that. Until you can prove otherwise I'm going to think you're making things up. They may have advertised it as being 'PS2 graphics quality', but thats completely different. And I fully believe they wanted to incorporate as much into the console as possible. Sony has always tried to make their consoles do more than just play games.

Here's proof of that: CNET News
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The device is sold primarily as a portable game machine, but users can also play movies and music, display digital photos and browse the Internet through its built-in wireless networking.

QUOTE(Kept_Wheat @ Sep 30 2005, 03:27 PM)

Cartriges are not expensive as hell. UMD's are cheaper but the 128meg chips are only like a dollar a chip. You can buy a 5gb SD card from fry's for $20. and they make a profit from that. And the PSP battery life changes a lot depending on what you are doing . They maxed it out on about 8 hours but the normal player cant reach that. And it can reach 8 hours on a low backlight with the sound turned down.
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I searched Outpost.com (Fry's electronics online store) and I can't fathom why they would 'supposedly' charge $1 for 128mb SD cards and $20 for 5gb when they don't even carry 5gb cards on their website and the $128 go up to $20. So I'm calling bullblam on a $20 5gb card. I haven't even heard of a 5gb flash card for any format.
QUOTE(Kept_Wheat @ Sep 30 2005, 03:27 PM)

And touch screen may be a prefence and some people may perfer an analog stick but the amount of things that are made possible with a touch screen compared to a joystick are a lot. And more people perfer the touch screen than not.
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More people prefer the touch screen? I would love to see you go around to every person in the world and ask them that. Until then, I'll trust that by 'more people' you mean 'I really have no idea'. Because you cannot go by sales alone on this. Nintendo has had the handheld market for the past forever - it's no wonder they would continue to dominate it. But if you haven't noticed, Sony has taken a huuuuuge chunk of their sales with their PSP. I'm not exagerating that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-09-30 at 20:46:39
QUOTE(chuOS @ Sep 30 2005, 06:34 AM)
You can have up to 8 players with game sharing on PSP.  Touch screen preference is dependent on the person, I hated the touch screen gameplay after a short while playing it.


Playing "what" on it? Not all games use the touch screen if you haven't noticed already. You do also realize that the DS CAN have 8 players as well? Have you heard of Bomberman DS? Say hello to 8 player Bomberman. Also, the battery life gets significantly weakened while playing wifi on the PSP than the DS.

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And PSP's battery life lasts up to 6 hours playing.  The reason its lower than DS is because it loads from UMD's which basically says "I'm a cheaper and easier way to store things than an expensive as hell cartridge".


Your stretching it by saying 6 hours. That could be possible on a light game like Lumines, but for Dynasty Warriors, Ridge Racer or NFS, Gamespot has said it only lasts 3. I'll give you the link if you want.

Cheaper UMDs eh? Kinda funny how PSP games cost $50 while DS games average $30. Riiiiight. Also, say hello to your expensive as hell memory card for me.

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In my eyes, your comparisons are flawed.  The DS is innovative with the touch screen but thats per preference.  The PSP's graphics WERE NOT determined by the fact they have to have the capability of playing movies, the fact they are so powerful outside that fact means they can also play movies.  Its just extra codecs and some added functions to the firmware.  Nothing more.
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There's more to it to the touch screen, but I bet you already know that from our previous discussions. I've seen emulated, but slower-than-usual SNES games on the PSP and that's neat.

For the record, I'm not a real supporter of the DS anymore. I gave it away to some kids today and that's that. I just rambled here to set things straight.

You can't really do much with the PSP unless you invest in bigger memory cards and some rival the price of ANOTHER PSP. What can be said is that PSP does more, but at a price.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-01 at 01:24:06
Yeah and 40% of this country is poor or not rich enough to pay for things like that. And yes Wi-Fi on the DS and PSP drain battery.

Why would you give a $130 piece of equipment away to some kids when you can sell it on E-bay for $50 or keep it and play Mario Kart DS all day long.

I saw it in my paper yesterday. A Secure Digital CORSAIR 1GB card for $30 and a $10 mail in rebate. Im sorry it was 1GB. But $20 for a card 7 times the size. Thats like $3 per game that sells for $30. Also I found a 1GBmemory stick for the PSP for $80. Yeah thats expensive as hell when you can buy two of those for the Play-Yan and get the same ammount of music and video.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2005-10-01 at 02:09:16
PSP Is For Little rich queers or People who dont have anything to spend Any money on

(Yeah so DS is better )
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-10-01 at 03:25:44
The internal words of those that are not knowledgable or those influenced by the Big N. The only people I know that have PSP's are my friends, both with jobs. :/ I don't think I need one, since I have my iPod mini, which is fine for me. I won't argue, I've played a PSP and I've played a DS, and frankly, the PSP is more appealing to me at the least, maybe since it's more of a media center then the DS.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-10-01 at 05:30:16
QUOTE(Revelade @ Sep 30 2005, 07:46 PM)

Playing "what" on it? Not all games use the touch screen if you haven't noticed already. You do also realize that the DS CAN have 8 players as well? Have you heard of Bomberman DS? Say hello to 8 player Bomberman. Also, the battery life gets significantly weakened while playing wifi on the PSP than the DS.
 
Your stretching it by saying 6 hours. That could be possible on a light game like Lumines, but for Dynasty Warriors, Ridge Racer or NFS, Gamespot has said it only lasts 3. I'll give you the link if you want. 

Cheaper UMDs eh? Kinda funny how PSP games cost $50 while DS games average $30. Riiiiight. Also, say hello to your expensive as hell memory card for me.
 
There's more to it to the touch screen, but I bet you already know that from our previous discussions. I've seen emulated, but slower-than-usual SNES games on the PSP and that's neat.

For the record, I'm not a real supporter of the DS anymore. I gave it away to some kids today and that's that. I just rambled here to set things straight.

You can't really do much with the PSP unless you invest in bigger memory cards and some rival the price of ANOTHER PSP. What can be said is that PSP does more, but at a price.
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About the 8, I was replying to a post. Why don't you go back and read his?

I'm not stretching it saying 6, I don't give a censored.gif what gamespot says, I never visit that site and for a good reason.

I've never payed over $30 for a PSP game, and while UMD's are cheaper (by fact) some developers might decide to charge more for their games.

I know there is more to it than the touch screen, but the touch screen is the only thing I can think of that would make it worth getting.

QUOTE(Kept_Wheat @ Oct 1 2005, 12:24 AM)

Yeah and 40% of this country is poor or not rich enough to pay for things like that. And yes Wi-Fi on the DS and PSP drain battery.

Why would you give a $130 piece of equipment away to some kids when you can sell it on E-bay for $50 or keep it and play Mario Kart DS all day long. 

I saw it in my paper yesterday. A Secure Digital CORSAIR 1GB card for $30 and a $10 mail in rebate. Im sorry it was 1GB. But $20 for a card 7 times the size. Thats like $3 per game that sells for $30. Also I found a 1GBmemory stick for the PSP for $80. Yeah thats expensive as hell when you can buy two of those for the Play-Yan and get the same ammount of music and video.
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Yeah and 42% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Dude if you really want something you will save up for it, it's that simple. Do you think I make 8 million a month? Heeeeeell no.

And as for flash memory, it all costs relatively the same where I live. I'm not saying the prices for different amounts of storage aren't different but to compare a pro duo card to a SD card you wouldn't see more than a $10 difference.

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PSP Is For Little rich queers or People who dont have anything to spend Any money on

(Yeah so DS is better )

I'm a rich queer? Last year I made $12k and most of it went to paying for college. Don't have anything to spend any money on? That could be said of all game systems. All.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-03 at 01:34:49
The PSP would be cool if it had a good game.

DS would be cool if it didn't have two screens.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-04 at 22:10:09
Wow Ego your a wonderful friend PSP has good games and the DS is cool because it HAS two screens.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-10-07 at 05:02:52
QUOTE(chuOS @ Oct 1 2005, 05:30 AM)
I'm a rich queer?  Last year I made $12k and most of it went to paying for college.  Don't have anything to spend any money on?  That could be said of all game systems.  All.
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Wouldn't suprise me if he was getting an xBox 360 xD
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-07 at 10:32:13
QUOTE(Kept_Wheat @ Oct 4 2005, 08:10 PM)
Wow Ego your a wonderful friend PSP has good games and the DS is cool because it HAS two screens.
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The DS didn't need two screens, and the PSP has at most 1-2 good games (I haven't seen/played/heard of any).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-10-07 at 17:59:19
Well games is opinionated. And while you can argue that the ds shouldn't need more than 2 screens, it basically increased the gaming field when you can use a touchpad to move or be used as part of the controller and use the screen as the actual viewing. Like Metroid Prime: Hunters. In that game the touchscreen is basically a minimap and what you use to aim with (so the game works just like a FPS game on a computer with a mouse).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cnl.Fatso on 2005-10-08 at 17:25:18
No, it works just like a touchscreen on a laptop.

Get your facts straight.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-10-08 at 18:04:09
Get my facts strait? This is a personal comparison based on actually playing it. I wasn't stating any 'facts'.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-10 at 00:27:28
QUOTE(Kept_Wheat @ Oct 4 2005, 08:10 PM)
Wow Ego your a wonderful friend PSP has good games and the DS is cool because it HAS two screens.
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Lol they changed the Your a wonderful friend part lol. I called him an Idiot funny. I called him poopy in case the 1st 1 gets censored 2 lol.
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