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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-10-04 at 18:01:50
I'm usually more open with people online than in person. I hold personal friends higher than online ones, but only because I really know them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-10-04 at 18:19:04
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1. If you choose to read what I said, then you wouldn't be confused. He had to have been talking about online people because he wouldn't know whether people online are honest.

Confused? Only because you only had one reason that I could see, and that one reason was easily broken in my next sentence.

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2. Just because people you meet online are people too does not mean the same generalizations apply to those offline. Do the same generalizations apply to criminals and non-criminals? No. Online, it's much easier to lie and you really never know who you are friends with.

I can apply the generalization that people aren't lieing when they tell me 2+2=4 to criminals, ex-criminals, framed innocents, unrelated innocents, whatever.
Oh, sure, having two different groups reduces the number, but if you can apply a generalization to humanity and have it be correct, then that includes people online too, since they're included in the group called "humanity". And being online does not necesarily mean that you will lie more. I know, myself, that my friends that I know in person don't lie more online than they do offline, and neither do I. In fact, one of my friends lies so often that I wouldn't be surprised if he had some kind of psychological disorder. I have yet to see him lie, scam, or even be an ass online. Most people I know are better online than they are offline. Okay, so you're right, the same generalizations can't be applied; the ones that can be truthfully applied to people online are generally the ones that won't send me into a screaming rage and start slitting my wrists with my teeth.

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Huh? What the heck are you saying? I'll rephrase what I wrote, I guess:

If you devote time to someone over the internet that you don't really know, you are a sad person.

Define "really know". I don't see how I "know" people any less online than I do offline. And I also don't see how devoting time to someone on the internet is "sad". If someone I know online is better than most people offline, than they deserve my time. Ooo, they might not really be the nice person they pretend to be? Well, they deserve my time for managing to act like a decent person as well as they did, because not being a decent person only makes giving someone your time harder, so they must be trying a lot harder to be nice than a truly nice person.

And oh, I get it now, you consider it impossible to know someone online. I thought that by "not knowing someone online", you meant knowing them through some other form, in person being the only other one I know of, and the one that you apparently support, so I was confused about taht.

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I'm usually more open with people online than in person. I hold personal friends higher than online ones, but only because I really know them.

Erm, wait... so the closer someone is, the less open you are to them? o_O
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-10-04 at 18:31:15
Oh come one, a friend over the internet isnt a real "friend." I mean, if you met them, theyd prolly rape you. Come on, please... -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-04 at 18:33:54
I met a friend in real life that I had through the internet. I met him through my real life friend on StarCraft, then in real life. He didn't rape me, and he sure acted the same as he did on the internet.

So quit being so paranoid War.

Such immature little children here, jesus
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-10-04 at 22:15:56
Last guy I met on the internet tracked me down... Damn DK.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-10-04 at 22:22:07
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Oct 4 2005, 05:33 PM)
I met a friend in real life that I had through the internet.  I met him through my real life friend on StarCraft, then in real life.  He didn't rape me, and he sure acted the same as he did on the internet.

So quit being so paranoid War.

Such immature little children here, jesus
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I'm having slight reminiscince of your little "Internet Girlfriend" that you talked about, who was the most beautiful woman ever.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-04 at 22:27:01
Why do you people INsist On making me read so much
Yes I did....Then I pissed her(I think)Off And completly Eradicated her from my f/list and added her 2 §hit list
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-04 at 22:27:46
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Oct 4 2005, 08:22 PM)
I'm having slight reminiscince of your little "Internet Girlfriend" that you talked about, who was the most beautiful woman ever.
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Tell us more!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-10-04 at 22:36:41
Just search his topics created, he was saying he was in love with some girl through the internet only to discover she was 5 years younger than him.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-04 at 22:40:21
how does it end?
Do tell
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-10-04 at 23:30:13
Him and Wacko Jacko find a common interest and become best friends. 39 Nose Jobs later Kellimus commits suicide.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-04 at 23:40:35
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Oct 4 2005, 08:36 PM)
Just search his topics created, he was saying he was in love with some girl through the internet only to discover she was 5 years younger than him.
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I'm not going to search through someone's posts... that would take forever -_-

From what you said, though, his honesty meter sucks.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-05 at 01:38:14
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Oct 4 2005, 07:22 PM)
I'm having slight reminiscince of your little "Internet Girlfriend" that you talked about, who was the most beautiful woman ever.
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Yup. She is. I'm going to see her in December

QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Oct 4 2005, 07:36 PM)
Just search his topics created, he was saying he was in love with some girl through the internet only to discover she was 5 years younger than him.
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Four years wink.gif And I still am in love with her.

QUOTE(Ego @ Oct 4 2005, 08:40 PM)
I'm not going to search through someone's posts... that would take forever -_-

From what you said, though, his honesty meter sucks.
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My honest meter sucks? Where do you come up with those stupid ass assumptions?

Why don't you do us all a favor and shut up? You think you know every single little thing that goes through everyones mind. Get a life man! Jesus! You can't know anything anyone else has in their mind you tard so learn to quit trying to assume to much junk about someones thought process! Jesus Christ!.

And btw, I'm probibly one of the most honest members here. Ask anyone who has known me for a long time:

Mr.Camo, Durk-A-Dur/Gorotsuki/Kooshtwo, Donwano/Big Kahoona, Timmy8586,, Drunken, Heimdal, Moogle, Rexy, Clokr_ (These are in random order except for Mr.Camo. I have known him for ages pinch.gif Then Durk-A-Dur) and anyone else that visits here that I haven't mentioned.

So please. Quit assuming to much you ignorant, arrogent, and egotistical one.

Edit: OMFG!!! I can't believe I left out Revelade! OMFG!! *Kicks himself in the ass very, very hard* I'm sooooo sorry Rev! cry.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-10-05 at 02:06:43
I just have to say that the only difference I have with internet "aquaintences" is that I can't do any funny quips here and there as I would in a regular conversation. I hang out with everyone at sen like I hang out with people at school. I fit in here because we have something in common, thats all thats really needed in a friendship. I don't know many of the people I hang out with besides the fact that they sometimes make me laugh and are fun to be around. Thats all thats really needed in a relationship, unless we are going for something deeper. (Where is this going? I'll end it here.) ermm.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-05 at 10:02:02
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My honest meter sucks? Where do you come up with those stupid ass assumptions?

Why don't you do us all a favor and shut up? You think you know every single little thing that goes through everyones mind.


Are you saying that you knew all along that the girl you were "dating" was 4 years yonger than you? Unless wesmic_da_pimp was lying, and I have no reason to think so because you didn't deny it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SirhcTheForbidden on 2005-10-05 at 10:25:34
From personnal experience, you can never know anyone on the Internet. Too easy to hide things you don't want to show (cuz you just suck at hidding it over your "real" life).

These kind of relationships are made to be broken apart and casted into oblivion.

They give a simple illusion of friendship, till one link breaks.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-05 at 11:28:22
QUOTE(Ego @ Oct 5 2005, 07:02 AM)
Are you saying that you knew all along that the girl you were "dating" was 4 years yonger than you?  Unless wesmic_da_pimp was lying, and I have no reason to think so because you didn't deny it.
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The fact that I was decieved makes me un-honest?

Do us all a favor and shut up.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-05 at 14:51:30
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Oct 5 2005, 09:28 AM)
The fact that I was decieved makes me un-honest?

Do us all a favor and shut up.
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Stop lying about what I said; for someone obsessed with fallacies, you should be ashamed.

You were claiming that you can tell when people are honest or not, and that people online don't lie any more. I was claiming otherwise, and this incident with your "girlfriend" (I'd be worrying about other things as well at this point) backs up what I said. Don't twist what I was saying into something completely different, okay? wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-10-05 at 16:04:13
QUOTE(Ego @ Oct 5 2005, 06:51 PM)
Stop lying about what I said; for someone obsessed with fallacies, you should be ashamed.

You were claiming that you can tell when people are honest or not, and that people online don't lie any more.  I was claiming otherwise, and this incident with your "girlfriend" (I'd be worrying about other things as well at this point) backs up what I said.  Don't twist what I was saying into something completely different, okay? wink.gif
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You were rather ambiguous with your first attack: 'Honesty meter' could mean a lot of things.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-10-05 at 16:11:43
Let's face it, behind every computer screen is a person, or at least I hope.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-10-05 at 16:13:55
QUOTE(Ultimo @ Oct 5 2005, 08:11 PM)
Let's face it, behind every computer screen is a person, or at least I hope.
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Or a very good AI...which doesn't exist.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-05 at 16:18:53
QUOTE(Ego @ Oct 5 2005, 11:51 AM)
Stop lying about what I said; for someone obsessed with fallacies, you should be ashamed.

You were claiming that you can tell when people are honest or not, and that people online don't lie any more.  I was claiming otherwise, and this incident with your "girlfriend" (I'd be worrying about other things as well at this point) backs up what I said.  Don't twist what I was saying into something completely different, okay? wink.gif
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I'm sorry, you must be talking about Devilesk.

It is not my fault I was deceived by someone who, acts, talks, and thinks like a 16 year old when they are really 14.

Why do you take what I say, and twist it around for your own personal gain?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-10-05 at 17:14:53
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Oh come one, a friend over the internet isnt a real "friend." I mean, if you met them, theyd prolly rape you. Come on, please... -_-

Since when does "probably" mean "one in every few million occurances"?
"-_-"

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Are you saying that you knew all along that the girl you were "dating" was 4 years yonger than you? Unless wesmic_da_pimp was lying, and I have no reason to think so because you didn't deny it.

So by dating someone that lied to him, he must be dishonest? I'm not seeing the logic here.

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From personnal experience, you can never know anyone on the Internet. Too easy to hide things you don't want to show (cuz you just suck at hidding it over your "real" life).

These kind of relationships are made to be broken apart and casted into oblivion.

They give a simple illusion of friendship, till one link breaks.

How many serious online relationships have you observed?

And, as I've said before what should be more than enough times, you can lie in person too. Just because it's easier to do on the internet doesn't mean that everyone will be doing it, or even a good majority of them. As I said before. Also, as I've said before, the people I know in person are more honest over the internet.

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You were claiming that you can tell when people are honest or not, and that people online don't lie any more. I was claiming otherwise, and this incident with your "girlfriend" (I'd be worrying about other things as well at this point) backs up what I said. Don't twist what I was saying into something completely different, okay?

He never said that people online don't lie anymore. He was arguing for the fact that not 99.99% of the internet is full of people that are lieing to 99.99% of everyone they know. Sure, that incident backs up what you said, but so does the sight of a purple cow give evidence to the incorrect theory that all crows are black.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-10-05 at 17:22:42
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Oct 5 2005, 01:38 AM)
Yup.  She is.  I'm going to see her in December
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I didnt mean a girlfriend type thing, for christ sakes, your not going to get raped by her. So shut the hell up. I meant like a dude who you talk to over the web every once and awhile. Not some skinny chick 5 years younger.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-10-05 at 21:57:53
Hah, in Kellimus's situation it would actually be considered rape because he's like 19 and the girl is like 11 or something like that.
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