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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-02-18 at 05:18:50
QUOTE(SkuLL @ Feb 17 2006, 07:30 PM)
You sound so confusing. I barely understood you...  sad.gif  but are you saying there is cloning or cloning is not possible?
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I posted that after having my wisdom teeth removed. I've been kinda hyped up on painkillers and anesthetics all day. Sorry.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SkuLL on 2006-02-18 at 11:14:08
It's been proved that cloning is possible. They're currently doing experients on cows, chickens, and other animals. And yes it'll be like having a complete twin but even more closer than a twin because it's made from your DNA and cells. But cloning isn't exactly like making an exact copy. It's not going to be the same age as you nor will it have the same personality. Cloning can actually help save close-to-extinction species. So I personally don't think cloning is that bad of a thing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2006-02-18 at 11:37:09
cloneing is useless on humans. if we really wanted to, we could get a bunch of women to get pregnet at the same time and give their babies to this place tht mass raised them.

thats what cloneing should be...

i dont think its moral to kill or mutalate any thing, because if you were that animal/person, how would you like it? u'd be helpless vs. a world that doesn't want you except your organs.

but if we did do cloneing, it would end up like the matrix sooner or later. witch is not what we want.

and messing with genetics is bad. it could result in armageddon. or it might not do any thing smile.gif

point is im aginst it
Report, edit, etc...Posted by olaboy- on 2006-02-18 at 11:38:00
Even so, it's the ethical problem of humans synthetically creating life.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2006-02-18 at 11:42:02
life should be naturely occuring. cause of the probelms it could create
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Detestable_Evil on 2006-02-18 at 14:28:48
If you are to clone a human, then the only good thing is that if one of the clones is dying or something, then another could donate organs if it wouldn't kill them.

Cloning otherwise is... really silly. If you use it for war, then it'll be just like in Star Wars (Yay Star Wars!). Another thing, if one of them gets ill, it's most likely that all of them will get ill from it. If one of them dies from it, then so will the others.

Organ bags... using them as organ bags... well remember people, ALL HUMANS HAVE EMOTIONS, WILL YOU KILL ANOTHER SO YOU CAN LIVE? WILL YOU TAKE ANOTHER'S LIFE JUST SO YOU CAN CONTINUE LIVING? IF IT'S YOUR TIME TO DIE, THEN SO BE IT. However... sadly it's a lot more scary at death's door then at his mansion's gate.

The clones, would they not be picked on though? Being a clone, would to be different from natural borns. They will most likely be hated as a child for being a clone. Less they're in an entire area just clones, but then that would still have probelms...

Cloning = Not ok. Least I think so.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zwitch on 2006-02-18 at 20:50:31
Is it alright to clone Humans?
- Psh, NO!!! Are you crazy!?!

Is it okay to clone Zwitch?
-You bet, the world would be a better place biggrin.gif

Haha, j/k, but seriously, cloning would lead to some problems, this world is becoming overpopulated as it is. Plus, imagine all the ways cloning could be abused (Armies, Crime, Identification, etc.) The negatives outweigh the positives in too many ways.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-02-18 at 23:57:54
Even when you do clone anything, they all live like twice as fast. They age older. This happened back in 1996 when they cloned the sheep and called it Dolly or something.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-19 at 04:02:35
Just farking clone the organs, you rejects.

'Nough said.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SkuLL on 2006-02-19 at 18:43:57
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Feb 18 2006, 11:57 PM)
Even when you do clone anything, they all live like twice as fast. They age older. This happened back in 1996 when they cloned the sheep and called it Dolly or something.
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Cloning isn't really dependable. Errors usually occur and the cloned organism usually have problems. But lately people started cloning pig/animal organs into human's so they could help people with organ problems. If this is sucessful then many wonderful things would happen happy.gif

Cloning could be both a good and bad thing. It depends on what you're cloning and whether you think it's okay or not. I personally think the concept of cloning is really interesting and I'll probably go further into researching it and learning more about it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-02-19 at 18:46:13
The world is already packed enough =\
Anyway, the world runs pretty well the way it is, we don't need to do anything to change that. Cloning for organs, maybe to save people's lives, that could work, but cloning humans for labor/warfare.. I don't think that should be allowed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by olaboy- on 2006-02-19 at 18:47:58
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But lately people started cloning pig/animal organs into humans so they could help people with organ problems.


Wait a second, what? I think you either said that wrong or you need to elaborate.

Plus to clone humans you have to get stem cells, which causes controversy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-02-20 at 05:19:44
well by the time we get the technology to only clone organs we would probolly make synthetic organs that will probolly be more cost efficient.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SkuLL on 2006-02-20 at 10:12:40
QUOTE(olaboy- @ Feb 19 2006, 06:47 PM)
Wait a second, what? I think you either said that wrong or you need to elaborate.

Plus to clone humans you have to get stem cells, which causes controversy.
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Sorry I said it wrong. I meant they clone animal organs into human organs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by guardien on 2006-02-20 at 21:39:28
Clone animals. Lots of them. Good food source. I don't see that as cruelty. They have no feelings, put it out of its misery! Clone healthy human organs or even blood cells for that matter. We need it, well, so the comercials say. Don't clone humans, there's 6 billion of us, we don't need more. There's six billion of us, there must be something good about sex.

Point proven.

I just know someone will disagree with the "cruelty" to animals part. closedeyes.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-02-20 at 22:52:03
It's true though.

They aren't cloning my kitty though. smile.gif And yeah, I think it could be a nice food source.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-02-20 at 23:51:25
we do not know what side effects will come from eating cloned animals. also we dont really need to clone animals, we have farms for that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-02-21 at 01:08:40
Maybe, a more efficient way for getting that food could be through cloning, who knows?

And I assume it'd be the same effects, but meh, I guess we'd have to look into it a bit more.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Crispie on 2006-02-21 at 01:22:30
Didnt think how you were created changed the fact that your a human.

QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Feb 20 2006, 11:51 PM)
we do not know what side effects will come from eating cloned animals. also we dont really need to clone animals, we have farms for that.
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Yes, we do. We get any side effects we would from whatever its cloned from, since they both are identicle. I believe your refferring to Genetic Engineering.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DF-fourofspades on 2006-02-21 at 12:05:19
OOo this is cool, i was talking about this in science class just the other day laugh.gif .
cloning could lead the path to immortality... at least, thats what the sources said wink.gif
people cloned cows so that they would produce human milk (no, i don't think its the mommy-thing-milk ermm.gif ).
they cut some hair and took the chromosomes/deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) and exchanged it with the chromosomes in a cell. i think it was a cow baby cell..
(tongue.gif I have like ADD or something, you have to beat the information into my head.. bangin.gif )
then they put the cell in the cow-mom's womb... and then... stuff..

I FORGET wallbash.gif

ADDITION:
oh yeah, and they're gonna cross-species clone now... sick.gif
they're gonna have a cow give birth to a chimpanzee or a pig or whatever...
thats like having your baby brother be a elephant..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-02-21 at 15:26:59
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Yes, we do. We get any side effects we would from whatever its cloned from, since they both are identicle. I believe your refferring to Genetic Engineering.


we already are genetically engineering plants as well as animals. but cloning is totally differnt. the clones that we have made so far have died before they should have. now what do you suppose eating those animals would do? i dont know but i would rather not take the chance.

and WHY would we need to clone farm animals when they can naturally reproduce. it seems an inefficient waste of money.

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oh yeah, and they're gonna cross-species clone now... sick.gif
they're gonna have a cow give birth to a chimpanzee or a pig or whatever...
thats like having your baby brother be a elephant..


i believe you are reffering to cloning using animals of the same family. ie. taking mammoth DNA and over the course of a few generations of elephants we will have a full blooded mammoth. then the question comes out, why would we need to clone a mammoth?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DF-fourofspades on 2006-02-21 at 16:40:50
QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Feb 21 2006, 03:26 PM)
why would we need to clone a mammoth?
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because its cool tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-02-21 at 16:47:12
haha thats not a good enough reason to spend thousands on tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DF-fourofspades on 2006-02-21 at 17:30:51
QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Feb 21 2006, 04:47 PM)
haha thats not a good enough reason to spend thousands on tongue.gif
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we'll heres a good reason... it would tell us about history! uberwoot.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-21 at 18:25:59
That's what Carbon Dating is for, nitwit.
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