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Well, Jesus was in fact a real historical person. You can't say Heaven and Hell don't exist if you don't have proof they don't exist. Hitler committed suicide which by religious rules, you go to hell.

Same proof rules apply to religion. Can't we all just be agnostic?

well, i dont think that if there is no proof taht something exists, it doesent exist.
peple didnt know about planets & universe a thousand years ago. I think taht God exists, i'm ortodox, & now, i think nothing can make me change my mind.

I'm a sunni muslim. Why? Because, contrary to popular belief, Sunni Islam is very tolerant, and the Qu'ran could and should be interpreted as a liberal book. Plus, Mohammed acknowledged Jesus and Abraham, and the New Testament and the Old Testament, as people and scriptures from Allah. Thus, we worship the same God as Christianity, so all arguments that Muslims will go to hell are baseless.

Ridiculous. From being muslim all you do is blow people up with bombs strapped around yourself you damn terrorists. And being Christian shows your stupidity. Kissing crosses, thanking absolutely nothing for the food you get. You should be thanking science, technology and the Earth. Athiesm is obviously becoming more and more popular now, mainly because of the amount of education we are receiving in our schools through science and mathematics. There is no god, GET OVER IT! Bible and Qur'an are a bunch of lies that people have passed on for generations. Muhammed and Christ and whoever the hell is out there are all real people, but they said this stuff to make people stop having so many was. They never knew it would turn out as bad as it did today. I wish Jesus and Muhammad were here today to see how pathetic you guys have become.

MA Edit: Stop farking making stereotypical comments about muslims being terrorists.

I'm a catholic Cristian because that is what i was raised to be. See i don't go to church every sunday nor do pray every night. Or a super Religious dude. But i belive he exsists and that it is the only explanination for what is here today.

Athiest, I have more than enough proof that God doesn't exist.

My beliefs have changed. I'm agnostic.

Athiesm follows the same problems as any religion. It's too absolute.

You don't know how hard it is for me to restrain myself from flaming you right now, but I'll try. Just because science has "proven" all this stuff is wrong, it's still possible for it to be right, and not to mention most of the world is not athiest, not even half the world's population is. However, I'm not gonna tell you how to live your life, just stop posting stupid stereotypes.

Atheism isn't really absolute. It's like the chances of there being a god are so low, that I just rounded it. Nothing can be 100%. Even 1+1 is 99.99etc.%

No I'm pretty sure 1+1 = 2
And I'm pretty sure 2 is 100% of 2, if that's what you mean.

But yeah, it's just that the chances are so low. It's as if I were to win the lottery every day for the rest of my life without cheating.

amen to that brother. amen.

Then technically, you don't actually know. You're placing a bet that there is no god; this follows the same mistakes as any religion.

No, we're beleiving in the nothing instead of the very slight chance of a God.
Hope is a good thing, but not when it's just so very against the odds.

Like I said, I might as well hope to win the lottery twice in a row.

I can see your religion as starting out good and etc. But lately Im starting to dislike the majority in your community. If you publish one bad thing about muslems, the whole muslem world riots and theres massive death and destruction. Tolerant? Some cases. Understanding? stretch.



That a kid.

Is not. A heretic is someone who believes there is a God, but that he is not to be followed.

I'm a Christian because I love Jesus.


My sister would like to add: "When bees mate with leaves they beleave!"

Kudos to the fellow protestants!

There has been proof! It's called a miracle. But places still rejected God out of sheer arrogance, so there aren't just lots of them anymore. Science expects us to believe that the human form came from random genetic alterations of a frog but the "fossils" of miracles mean nothing?

Haw haw, you're so funny. I'm a believer of god, but the scientists and athiests aren't the arrogant ones here, bud. It's you. There is no proof of miracles. Miracles don't happen, they are exaggerated stories of small shards of luck.

And no, you fool. Humans did not come from random genetic alterations of a frog. Go look in a book before you type stupid shiz.

And to TheDaddy0420, yes, the religion is very tolerant. The culture of the Middle East hasn't yet adapted to the modern world, saying the RELIGION is intolerant and bloody is very incorrect. Saying it is tolerant is definitely not a stretch, go read the Qu'ran before you say that. The Arabian culture, not the Islamic Religion, if you look through history, has a long past of blood, conquering and warfare. And recent events keep sparking the differences between their culture and ours, such as Iranian nukes, the invasion of Iraq and calling the invasion of Iraq a crusade (you don't say crusade over there), letting India have nukes but not Pakistan, Israel VS. Palestine, and so on. These are all examples not of Muslims clashing with Christians, but Arabs clashing with Westerners.

You don't see Turkey and Indonesia doing crazy-ass shiz, do you?

I consider myself an atheist. However, I do believe there is a specific balance in the universe and I believe in rebirth of life (souls, whatever you call it).

Everyone (that knows) think's just because I am an atheist means that I believe in nothing ^_^

Anyway. I don't care about anything, really. Catholic, Wiccan, Satanist, Jewish, etc., I view them equally. Okay, maybe not so equally. I do prejudge some things without wanting to. I was thinking of converting to a religion, but I thought "is this what I really want?" I said no. I just wanted to believe for the sake of believing to get people off my back.

But, frankly, if there was a God (according to Christian beliefs, I am stating), he would judge not on religion, but on kindness and rationality (in my opinion). It doesn't make sense that most (I say most) people think "You don't believe in God?!? You will burn for eternity!" I asked them about the natives of different places around the world, they say "Eternity of burning! They need to believe our views, whether they are oblivious or not!" I call such people extremists.

Frankly, I don't know if I actually believe or not, I may believe subconsciously. I think I am leaning towards agnostic, but I consider myself an atheist.

Yea umm...a Heritic is someone who stopped believing in a religion and begins believing in something else (play Halo, you'll understand lol).

And I guess im Athiest i only believe in a world after this and thats about it.

I do believe i said community. Did I not?

Ya, that's right. But the difference between atheism and religion is, the bet is highly in the atheist's favor. It's a simple formula of weighing chance, cost, and outcome. You decide partly on what the chance is, fully on what the cost is, and very little on what the outcome is. So much of it can vary from person to person.

Agnostic has a flaw too. If you use that type of thinking on every aspect of your life, you'll never make up your mind.
"Should I wear the white socks or black socks today? I believe the white socks look better, but I'm not 100% sure. It's best if I just don't decide. Cause there's no 100% way I can be certain."
But I know you don't think like that when you're putting on your socks. Because it generally just doesn't really matter that much on what socks you wear.

However, if I told you that wearing black socks is the only way to protect from a new strain of bacteria that will consume the earth in only a year, you'll then start to think like this:
"I should start wearing the black socks just to be safe. Incase that bacteria thing is true."

But I know you won't do that. You'll want to see more proof before you make that kind of decision; You're not naive. And that is why you're most likely agnostic. I see where you're coming from. It makes sense.

But the thing is, what if the cost of security was much higher? Instead of black socks, it was going to church, changing your beliefs, and maybe even having to become a missionary. Would you still do it? You only have 2 options. If you sit there and do nothing, you're physically doing the exact same thing an atheist would do; nothing.

Burden of proof lies on the religious side. Agnostic and atheist are both in the same boat. They both ask for proof. Only difference is, atheists have decided the religious side has more than enough time to prove that they're not talking out of their asses, and repeating things liars have said dozens to thousands of years ago. Agnostics think either they still need more time, or that they will never be able to do it. That's it.

When the world ends, we'll both go to the same place. Wether it be heaven, hell, or neither. At the end of the world, not making a decision can still be looked at as making a decision.

No, you said the muslim community. The WHOLE muslim community, I might add. If you were smart, you would have in particular said the Arabic community of muslims. Sure, I'm a muslim and I'm a little pissed they did that, but am I burning embassies? In fact, several non-Arab Imams have condemned the violence.

Also, believing in God doesen't automatically make you go to heaven. Being an atheist or polytheistic person doesen't automatically make you go to hell. If you're a good person, you land in Heaven at the end, as I see it. And if you were a bad person, you land in hell. That's the way I see it, anyways.

From what I know of the Qu'ran, only Allah may judge the worth of a person.