QUOTE(Screwed @ Apr 22 2006, 03:04 AM)
Hold on a second, what "point" are you saying that they are doing everything to convey?
How does not preferring gay stereotypes have equivalents to homosexual people keeping their sexuality private? You're assuming that every gay person who had come out will suddenly change to fit a narrow-minded socially construcuted definition?
-You know why people are closetted? Why should it be a secret? If you are seriously fine with it then if I talked about boys in front of you it would just be like any other normal everyday conversation. There's really no big deal about it. One thing I would like to emphasise - besides maybe during those pride parades which are there to show our existence and protest for equality to the government, gay people don't orientate everything they're doing around their sexual preference. Sexual preference is really only one part that is different which makes up a person. People who completely revolve their lives around it really need to find better things to do. However, because of biased treatment in some way or other you would find a gay person develop some kind of argument they have to demolish the predjudiced thoughts one has towards them.
I'm gay, I don't run around screaming out to everyone that I'm gay. One thing homosexuality is different from heterosexuality is that heterosexuality is pre-assumed for everyone. When I say I'm gay I'm not trying to get attention or trying to shove my sexuality into someone's face. I say it so people know this part of me. If you're gay you'll know coming out is a life-long process. Throughout your life you continue to do it - it doesn't end when you tell your parents, your group of current friends or your co-workers. Let's say when I've met someone new, my least intention is to tell them I'm gay immediately. First it may freak them out, but most of all being gay isn't just what a gay person is and we don't want premature judging based on it. Only if people ask questions like "do you have a girlfriend" and a person who is perfectly fine with their sexuality would without hesitation say "no, but I have a boyfriend". That to few may be already going too far and seem like its imposing their sexuality onto someone else, but really if it is not said someone would never know it. If they find it so disturbing and dislike a gay person for that very reason of being gay, then I doubt any out-gay person with a sense of self-worthy and dignity would value any kind of relationship with that person.
-If you meant pride demonstrations, I would understand striving for equal rights between homosexual and heterosexual people wouldn't affect you so you would only just want them to stop. Yet, if the government stop suppressing us as second class citizens we will stop.
Let's imagine a scenario to see maybe why gay people should be a little proud. I'm not going to tell you to imagine you're gay but instead imagine yourself in a world which almost everyone in the world is homosexual. Your gay parents (which for the sake of this scenario let's say homosexual people can reproduce children) want you to grow up, marry another sweet guy and have a family. Your church makes you develop controversial beliefs inside you about your spiritual support and the heterosexual attractions. Your friends are all gay, and they speak derogatively about straight people. Your country forbids straight couples to marry and takes away many of their rights. You turn on television and every show, movie or MTV portrays homosexual content. Then there's some straight guy being the joke in these shows and you are glad they are on media except they confirm a stereotype that you don't conform to. Your gay parents point to these characters and say they have issues, problems, they are sick people, incapable of love, paedophiles and errors in nature but you know you are none of these things. I can really go on forever. You seem like the only straight guy out there and you feel terrible. However, if you break out of that shell, accept who you are nonetheless of the rather harsh conditions... you grow to find support from a few other straight but also gay people out there who don't judge you because of your heterosexuality. Maybe in the end there are some things to be proud of.
-Oh, also I admit its not a family's dream to have a homosexual child. Are you saying families with homosexual children are offended by the stereotypical content or the majority of families being offended?
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As I said before, I went overboard on the secret thing. It was my way of saying I don't want to hear people who obsess over their sexuality.
It's not the entire gay community that I have a problem with. I'm just sick of the ones on T.V. who do obsess over their life. Yes, I agree with many of your points you listed. Here is the homosexual stereotype:
-Tries to act as femine as possible
-Dresses fruity
-Has a lisp
-Usual obsession over his sexuality
No, I don't wish for every single homosexual to be that way, and I'm aware that not every homosexual is that way (thank God). However, my small comment about the gay character in a show or whatever can be the funniest character was about how I don't mind a stereotype every once in a while. It's just been lately, I've been seeing a lot of stereotypes and after a while, that really annoys me, because it gets to the point where it talks about homosexual rights, and that stuff just bores me. I just want solid entertainment. I don't want complete elimination of stereotypes, but I don't want to see them on every channel I go to. Sorry if I'm confusing you guys.