Report, edit, etc...Posted by Minority on 2006-04-29 at 01:12:52
QUOTE(Syphon @ Apr 29 2006, 10:55 AM)
What you're describing sound like the atoms are being fissed apart to colide with each other.
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I never said that. Hydrogen is being fused into helium to release energy in the form of photons and neutrinos.
QUOTE(Syphon @ Apr 29 2006, 10:55 AM)
And photons aren't afcted by electrons, seeing as how an electron is 1/2000th the size of a photon. When in reality the Sun is fusing atoms, them being pulled back to the core is the only thing that could hold a photon back, and that would'nt last long. The sun isn't massive enough for it's gravity to affect light.
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The photons aren't being affected by electrons (or gravity), they're being affected by the atoms that contain the electrons.
QUOTE(Syphon @ Apr 29 2006, 10:55 AM)
If it took 50,000,000 years for a photon to leave the sun it would be red, and much darker.
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No, it wouldn't. All that it means is that the photons that we see now are 50 million years old.
QUOTE(Syphon @ Apr 29 2006, 10:55 AM)
A joule isn't that much, write it in say, megatons of force. Doesn't seem as large then.
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Well, according to Wiki, a megaton is 4.184 petajoules (4,184,000,000,000,000 joules), so 18,000,000,000,000,000,000/4,184,000,000,000,000= 4,302.1032504780114722753346080306 megatons.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-04-29 at 11:35:23
QUOTE(Syphon @ Apr 29 2006, 03:25 AM)
Point out some sorces for this, will you. Because it's something I've never heard about all this quantum hooha, and I read about it alot.
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that speed increases mass & mass increases gravity & gravity changes time it's my crazy idea. actually speed icreases mass, i think you told this in this topic. mass increases gravity & gravity changes how time "mooves" is all in the magazine taht i read for info about topics like that. look it up in that site i gave you.
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QUOTE(Minority @ Apr 29 2006, 08:12 AM)
Well, according to Wiki, a megaton is 4.184 petajoules (4,184,000,000,000,000 joules), so 18,000,000,000,000,000,000/4,184,000,000,000,000= 4,302.1032504780114722753346080306 megatons.
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to show what destructive power this is, the most powerful nuclear explosion was 50 megatons. the shockwave did 3 circles around the Earth, & it caused tictanic activity in places where it happens most often. this will be 86 times more powerful.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-04-29 at 14:19:54
QUOTE(Minority @ Apr 29 2006, 12:12 AM)
I never said that. Hydrogen is being fused into helium to release energy in the form of photons and neutrinos.
The photons aren't being affected by electrons (or gravity), they're being affected by the atoms that contain the electrons.
No, it wouldn't. All that it means is that the photons that we see now are 50 million years old.
Well, according to Wiki, a megaton is 4.184 petajoules (4,184,000,000,000,000 joules), so 18,000,000,000,000,000,000/4,184,000,000,000,000= 4,302.1032504780114722753346080306 megatons.
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The photons aren't being affected by electrons (or gravity), they're being affected by the atoms that contain the electrons.
No, it wouldn't. All that it means is that the photons that we see now are 50 million years old.
Well, according to Wiki, a megaton is 4.184 petajoules (4,184,000,000,000,000 joules), so 18,000,000,000,000,000,000/4,184,000,000,000,000= 4,302.1032504780114722753346080306 megatons.
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Good.
The sun was darker 50 million years ago, hence redder and darker.
That's about equivalent of a medium-large asteroid hitting earth. So it isn't as unusally dramatic as it seems.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-04-29 at 14:23:22
it would be enough to wipe-out a large city. isn't that dramatic ? damn, this guy is a cold-blooded maniak ! 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Minority on 2006-05-05 at 05:37:50
QUOTE(Syphon @ Apr 30 2006, 04:49 AM)
The sun was darker 50 million years ago, hence redder and darker.
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The sun was darker then because there weren't as many photons being produced 50 million years before that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-05-05 at 23:17:42
QUOTE(Jammed @ Apr 29 2006, 01:23 PM)
it would be enough to wipe-out a large city. isn't that dramatic ? damn, this guy is a cold-blooded maniak !
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It'd be significant on Earth, not in the vast reaches of space.
QUOTE(Minority @ May 5 2006, 04:37 AM)
The sun was darker then because there weren't as many photons being produced 50 million years before that.
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And 50 million years before that it was darker because photons weren't being produced.
Accourding to your logic when it formed into a star it would look like a nebula, as that's what was there 50 million years before. And 50 million years later, after it had definantly begun it's nuclear fusion and was probably redish-orange it would look like a brown dwarf?
No.