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please stop spamming.

Waht is this spamming?? oh crap if it is u can go ahead n delete it sorry...


Edit:Deleted it myself =/ heheh
Edit Again:Look kow talking to it self LOL

Wow to think That this post went from Evolution vs Creation to Cookies...omg.

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Hehe just the kinda of nonsense that seems to draw me from a far! (A Far = The Garbage Section)

I kile oodf, eechse eprfeblyr.

I'd go with evolution, anyway... Go Go Science!

heh srry bout that

And now its going back to evolution,u only pointed out the good points of creation (which there are very little),creation is impossible in over 50 different ways, first of all, if god created humans, and he loves them, why did he create leeches? and viral parasites? does he love them too? Can god stop global warming? can he stop the sun from going supernova a couple billion years from now? In fact, there is no proof he did anything, All these things in the bible are written, none of them can be proven, how would they know if moses crossed the sea? maybe they made a boat. Theres no proof he walked through the sea. thats not possible either.
if we were created god would create us all to believe in him right? (sorry if there is an answer in the bible) . You can't just create something, And youre information on the primordial soup is very wrong.. thats like me saying, god just created all of us in a box and we exploded from it. And, God itself is a concept, Gods are supreme beings, u cant be "God" u can only be A god

if it's one thing I hate, it's accepting creation just because the bible said something. show me a link to where they found things under the sea and stuff, I am too lazy to look and you should provide your sources when argueing.

the internet is definatly NOT the best place to find information, especially regarding such a touchy subject such as this one.

CLICK ME

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[lists of all the mistakes in the bible, see how accurate your "holy" bible is?]

*sighs and looks at her signature...*
alright, for starters, I have popped open that box and I'll read it as soon as it loads and all that. BEFORE THAN:

the bible is God's word. However, God did not directly write it, so of course there are going to be changes of opinions from author to author. The Bible is a collective of many different stories told by different people.

also, I would love to have a debate with you over condredictions in the Bible. I would like to think of myself as open minded to such things and want to hear about them.

I have briefly looked over gensis' contredictions, and I have decided that there is too much to address in one post. Thereefore, if you have something particular, I'd love to discuss it.

I have nothing to argue with right now. the only thing i'm against is people beliving earth is 6000-7000 years old. thats just a site so you can read when you're bored or want to see some mistakes in the bible

I find evolution to be far fetched and unbelievable. As for Creationism, you're all under the false assumption that it only means the Christian Religion. There are many other religions, and simply believing that God created the Universe doesn't require belief in any of these religions.

I believe God created the universe, but that he doesn't even know we're here. The universe is too vast even for him !

why do you think evolution is far fetched and unbelievable? 6billion years is plenty of time for some organic materials to evolve into species such as us or birds or other animals or even anything alive.

I don't believe that life can spring from nothing, and I don't believe that such evolution is possible. Given ANY amount of time... However I suppose since the Universe is so vast that even if there is evolution involved, there could be another planet exactly like ours where everything is exactly the same, except my name is Bob. I forgot that I stopped believing in God... ok well I guess I didn't stop. I jump back and forth all the time, mostly because I don't care.

scientists have proven that they can get organic materials from nothing (I'll find site later after this post). Evolution isnt' a fast process, it's very slow and requires a lot of chaning in the environemnt. evolution isn't what you really think it is, its' not just a change but more like an accident. the genes dont' do what they're suppose to do for ANY reason and mess up, for good or bad. if bad, that "species" WILL go extinct because it will not survive the conditions (unless it changes). if good, then that species will continue because it was able to live off what used to be a very harsh land. (aka natural selection)

6 billion years can be enough "evolution" for the sun to explode! thats the time when we need to mass produce "Mentos" - the heat breaker. XD

Edit- Oh and cheese, unban me u little poor sport.

What? No offence, but everything you said makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Please inform me of how chariots at the bottom of the sea are proof of creationism? And your point that Ramses was written in the bible before any archaeologists found his body, wtf? The bible was written during his (Ramses) time. Archaeologists are much more recent, being that the field is relatively modern (within the last few centuries). So, writing the name of someone, during their time, is no miraculous feat. By your standards, Shakespeare's play "Ceasar" is equally miraculous, given that Shakespeare wrote of Julius Ceasar before archaeologists found his remains. That's not a miracle, buddy.

And we can't forget about "tons of things found in israel". I've found tons of things in my apartment. This old pizza box must also be proof of creationism. Seriously, using the word "things" to back up something is weak. Also, no "thing" found in Israel is proof your god created man and women, as well as the whole earth and everything on it. According to the Bible, the earth was created roughly 7000 years ago. Scientists have found rocks that they've measured at being over 3.5 BILLION years old. Believing in god is one thing. Being ing stupid is another.

And your statement for how evolution disproves itself, sounds more like an argument FOR evolution. Yes, natural tendency is chaotic, and things tend to become more disorganized. That's how evolution occurs. Chaos and disorganization cause subtle changes to one's genetic code, and, if this subtle change causes the being to thrive, then it will reproduce, and spread, until eventually all creatures of that species have incorporated the change into their own genetic code, hence, EVOLVING.

Evolution has an amazing amount of evidence backing it up, whereas creationism has ABSOLUTELY none. The Bible is not evidence. It's a book. Whether you believe in it's doctrine or not, you can't deny that it is still nothing more than a book. An important book, some would say, but still a book. Books are not hard evidence. If I wanted to prove that the world rests on the back of a turtle, which stands on the back of another turtle, ad infinitum, I could find a number of books proving that as well. Now, obviously, the world does not sit on top of a stack of infinite turtles, so it stands to reason that books are not suitable to use as evidence.

Now, evolution, has concrete evidence. This evidence does not prove it true, since nothing is 100% provable, not even gravity. However, scientists have observed evolutionary reactions in process. This is undeniable. Scientists can constantly observe mutations and evolutions in creatures. Scientists have also recreated the conditions of the earth, before life came into existence. Through the recreation of the earth's atmosphere, etc, they have succeeded in witnessing the spontaneous creation of amino acids, which are the building blocks of life. Stands to reason, that this is pretty good evidence. Much more significant than some book.

Now, don't take any of this as being an insult to anyone's faith, because insult was not intended, just the presentation of factual evidence to support my case. I myself am Buddhist, but I have the utmost respect for people and their religions, whatever they may be.

no it's not -_- and I didn't ban you, someone else did. *OK I WILL UNBAN IF YOU SAY YOU ARE SORRY IN A PM FOR BEING EVIL


and linux_junkie... you rock. as a note, things are proveable (whatever). math theorems are called theorems because they have been proven..unless you want me to prove teh theory of math

[for those who are curious: im athiest, so what?]

i dont' care what you think, the only thing I give a crap about is people believing earth is 7000 years old. thats the crappiest thing ive ever heard

I hate to post again, but during the time I spent writing my reply, several other posts came up, lol.

Okay, you state that creationism is also believed by "many other religions". Oh really? How about, oh, I dunno, THREE. Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. All three of which, share the same holy texts, albeit small differences. All three also came up in the same part of the world, and they all happen to be Semitic religions, putting them in the same class. So, no, I'm sorry, but three essentially like religions do not count as "many". They're all basically the same, anyways.

many many things to discuss

Evolution is still a theory. Therefore, it does not have "an amazing amount of evidence to back it up." It wouldn't be a theory if it did.

Also, books are probably one of the best sources of information. It beats the internet hands down 99.9% of the time. And, if it isn't hard evidence, what do you think of Darwin's Journal and his findings on the finches? he wrote it all down.

a book does not beat a good source on the internet, espcially if the book is a STORY [ie BIBLE]

and evolution has A LOT of evidence, but cannot be proven because of the long time it takes for it to happen.. however, pre human species have been proven to exist because of skeletons we find. this can't prove they "evolved" into us because no one lived back then to record it. Darwin did do a lot of stuff, and a lot of it was also patterns he saw. only certain species are on one place and not found anywhere else because of what was on that place.

Darwin wrote it all down IN A BOOK

what do you think they researched from before the internet was invented?

umm..yea I was agreeing with you that he wrote it in a book. thats called research, not a story (like teh bible)

I'm confused, are you argueing against us or for us =/