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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demon on 2006-07-09 at 01:01:12
QUOTE(Shocko @ Jul 8 2006, 11:59 PM)
i can honoustly say cheeze you just ownt veta with a like 1st 2nd and 3rd degree burn all in one and i totally see where you are coming from with that all i have to say is OUCH veta you just got pwnt like the noob that you are
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It reminds me of those games where I play a very newb terran and I just like....run over them. Literaly. But i'm betting the one who got burnt will still talk back as if he knows what he's talking about, any bets?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by XGuy on 2006-07-09 at 01:08:42
Demon, sry for the misunderstanding, the things i said were towards Veta not you, what you said was completly correct

Veta, everybody disagrees with u in all ways, just give it up man

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demon on 2006-07-09 at 01:10:41
Nah, totally understood X. I know how immiture I can turn out happy.gif.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moronic_Moe on 2006-07-09 at 01:13:19
This guy just doesn't know what he is talking about. I guess the only way I can be cool is to have sex and do drugs closedeyes.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-07-09 at 01:26:51
QUOTE(Demon @ Jul 8 2006, 09:26 PM)
Even though I don't like Bill Gates to fondly I like that rule, kind of homurous.
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All of his Eleven Rules are much needed reality checks.

Rule 1: Life is not fair -- get used to it!

Rule 2: The world won't care about your self-esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself.

Rule 3: You will NOT make $60,000 a year right out of high school. You won't be a vice-president with a car phone until you earn both.

Rule 4: If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss.

Rule 5: Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your Grandparents had a different word for burger flipping -- they called it opportunity.

Rule 6: If you mess up, it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine about your mistakes, learn from them.

Rule 7: Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you thought you are. So before you save the rain forest from the parasites of your parent's generation, try delousing the closet in your own room.

Rule 8: Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life HAS NOT. In some schools they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as MANY TIMES as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.

Rule 9: Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off and very few employers are interested in helping you FIND YOURSELF. Do that on your own time.

Rule 10: Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually have to leave the coffee shop and go to jobs.

Rule 11: Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.

QUOTE(CheeZe @ Jul 8 2006, 09:42 PM)
Because you are obviously the supreme master of social lives. You must know
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Sadly, if you take "society" as a majority of people in America between the ages of 10 and 25, "society" is that stupid.

But, if you pan out at the bigger picture, there are sane people left.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Veta on 2006-07-09 at 01:27:57
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Jul 8 2006, 10:23 PM)
Better summed up in Bill Gates' Eleventh Rule of Life: Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.
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I skimmed through the replies, good subject, aye?

Jocks? Hardly, I hate jocks, none of them have a sense of humor. To my understanding, jocks follow orders and do what they're told. Or at least from my Breakfast Club knowledge. : ) I like to think of myself as a more typical rebellious teenager with angst. If that makes sense?

Society gives kudos to those who have sex, that's a truth. You may not like it but you're going to have to deal with it. Society is stupid, we know. Society is an average of everyone's thoughts, typically. Many people are stupid, some are smart, and some are inbetween. Those are taken into account when society says something. Society values sex.

I brought the social ladder idea to convey my message about the importance of one's social life. 50% of the time, internet arguments end in name calling and this leads to accusations about one's sexuality and etc. Pretty much real life.

"Oh yeah? Well you're a loser! I'd beat your ass if I knew where you lived!"
"Beat my ass? I bet you helicopter punch! I bet you're a virgin, owned!"

See my point? You gain respect from getting a girl to sleep with you because it's not easy task, depending on the girl and your age. Look at the newest movies coming out, one of them is 'John Tucker must die!" It's completely based on a popular kid who dates many girls and gets laid, he gets respect for being a, and I quote, 'player'. You may not like this, but it doesn't matter, majority of the people in the world... America, think it deserves respect. I'm not saying that people should go out and be jocks, not at all. They should however have a social life to a degree, hanging out on the internet all day and not meeting girls and acting stupid with friends is just abnormal, and deserves insulting. I like to venture around on the internet, I like to post in forums... sometimes, but I find it to be very boring and unexciting if that's all I'm doing. And when I do such things, I'd much rather be at the mall or with friends. Sex is just a measure of one's social life, if his social life is beyond a certain point. The point gets lower as age increases. People can easily maintain their internet lives and have social lives... or not be 'losers' or 'nerds' as was said. Being a 'nerd' or a 'loser' does not mean you're making money when you get older, not at all. How many 'nerds' do you know that are rich as hell 10 years later? Bill Gates, jacked the idea for the internet off some country man, he stole the idea. On a side note, Bill Gates is not the richest man in the world. Being nerdy does not make one successful, being clever, and smart does. There are two kinds of smarts; Street Smarts and Book Smarts. Book smarts are typically what people who enjoy map making are. Street smarts are people like drug dealers or negotiators. To be successful in life you need both. Bill Gates used his Street Smarts to steal that idea off the generic country guy. Bill Gates used his Book Smarts to make it happen. Get it?

One's virginity is just a small measurement of their social status. That's it. Like how blood can be negative and positive or A, B, AB, and O. There are different ways to measure social status, virginity is just one, a very inconclusive one too. But it does sometimes give you an idea.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demon on 2006-07-09 at 01:30:23
I love those rules, I will soak in them for years to come. Just wondering, where do the geeks fit into this whole situation? I consider myself a geek rather than a nerd really happy.gif.

Addition: Stop being a fool and lumping everyone in one group. Oh and if anyone took my bet, I win : D.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-07-09 at 01:38:41
Society gives kudos to those who have sex, that's a truth. You may not like it but you're going to have to deal with it. Society is stupid, we know. Society is an average of everyone's thoughts, typically. Many people are stupid, some are smart, and some are inbetween. Those are taken into account when society says something. Society values sex.

where are you on this smartness scale my bets on the shorter end of the stick

See my point? You gain respect from getting a girl to sleep with you because it's not easy task, depending on the girl and your age

this is the biggest bullshiznit ive heard in my whole 15 years almost 16 year of life time

"ooh look at me im a player i just screwed sum girl and got HIV/AIDS look at me im a cool kid now"


They should however have a social life to a degree, hanging out on the internet all day and not meeting girls and acting stupid with friends is just abnormal, and deserves insulting

the internet was made for communication the difference between communcating on here and communicating out there is that there you can hear them here you can see what they are saying

Book smarts are typically what people who enjoy map making are. Street smarts are people like drug dealers or negotiators. To be successful in life you need both. Bill Gates used his Street Smarts to steal that idea off the generic country guy. Bill Gates used his Book Smarts to make it happen. Get it?

ok SO your saying if i steal a map idea im using my street smarts on the internet so i DO have a social life. and by book smarts i make the map meaning i DONT have a social life coz im not getting laid. and doing drugs is not a smart its a dumb ass thing like it or not hate it or love it i dont care it has negative AND posative affects that cause / lead to deaths so w.e veta have it your way in life as a "cool kid" that spends his time flaming a forum about sex.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-07-09 at 01:39:27
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Jocks?


Jocks, as in the big egotistical guys who play football and snog cheerleaders.

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Society gives kudos to those who have sex, that's a truth. You may not like it but you're going to have to deal with it. Society is stupid, we know. Society is an average of everyone's thoughts, typically. Many people are stupid, some are smart, and some are inbetween. Those are taken into account when society says something. Society values sex.


As CheeZe said, it depens on what "society" is.

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I brought the social ladder idea to convey my message about the importance of one's social life.


Your position in a high school social ladder really affects


  • college entrance

  • your grades

  • your job

  • your financial situation



positively, right? No, it doesn't.

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See my point? You gain respect from getting a girl to sleep with you because it's not easy task, depending on the girl and your age.


Respect? Maybe some other mindless losers begin to follow you.

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Look at the newest movies coming out


Movies <-----> Reality

I see a difference, you should too.

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majority of the people in the world


Pfft. Your 'society' = everyone in the world ..... everyone in America ..... most people in america between 10 and 25

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Sex is just a measure of one's social life, if his social life is beyond a certain point. The point gets lower as age increases.


Yup, the only way to have fun is sex. [/saracsm]

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How many 'nerds' do you know that are rich as hell 10 years later?


Oh, lots. How many of the richest 500 Americans do you think were bragging about having sex in high school?

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Bill Gates, jacked the idea for the internet off some country man, he stole the idea.


..and? He's still rich.

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On a side note, Bill Gates is not the richest man in the world.


Who is then, you? With all that sex, you must have at least $100 billion sitting around.

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To be successful in life you need both.


And "street smarts" means having sex as much as possible? Sounds more like a quick way to death by STDs.

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One's virginity is just a small measurement of their social status.


Perhaps. But of a "status" that means nothing for your life after school.

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Rule 8: Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life HAS NOT. In some schools they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as MANY TIMES as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.
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Maybe your teachers don't care if you fail, but your boss will care if you spend more time having sex and bragging about it than working.

Chances are, I'll be buying burgers from you in 30 years.

Oh and way to ignore CheeZe owning you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-07-09 at 01:40:27
I just can't believe I'm even listening to someone try to give advice about life with a "feeling down... just kill yourself" signiture.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demon on 2006-07-09 at 01:41:01
I personally think someone should kill this topic, it has come to the point Veta is argueing in a circle. He won't change his mind he's one of those people who don't get what solid evidence is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-07-09 at 01:43:02
will the GGing ever stop its like stop rming sheesh :S
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demon on 2006-07-09 at 01:52:59
I think it's over or something, Veta didn't reply back. Thank the admins for their holy aid to my head.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-07-09 at 01:55:26
ok but Q. am i the only one to notice the thread is

"are you are virgin?" coz like thats annoying me :s
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Veta on 2006-07-09 at 02:04:47
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Because you are obviously the supreme master of social lives. You must know everything to be able to judge other people's lives based on whether or not they're a virgin. I must learn from you! Tell me more.



Thank you, but before you can get as good as me in this field, you need a social life. : (



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No, that's survival. Try again.


Yeah you're right, survival of your genes. Thanks for clarifying for us.

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No, that's your own opinion. Try again.


Oh, you're right... society wants for us to be hobos and prostitutes. Whoops, was wrong again, luckily you're their to make everything correct!

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I guess you've never heard of abstinence, have you?


Yeah because I didn't mention exceptions such as religion and abstaining for dangerous situations. No I definetly didn't mention that in a previous post. Always there to catch me!

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You know nothing about love. Absolutely nothing. If you even dare say you do, you'll look even more foolish than you look now. Which actually makes me hope that you'll say you do know what love is. How silly of me.


That's like saying I know nothing about God, love doesn't exist. Idiot. Maybe if you weren't a virgin, you would know... or if you stopped watching Disney movies. All things and concepts that relate to us evolved over time. What's the purpose of 'True Love' for the passing of our genes? Here's the truth, men are driven by sexual urges and women are driven by 'love' if you will. A guy tells a girl that he loves her and then he leaves. He lets the girl raise the kids and finds a new girl to pass his genes to. Nature intended that, that's why Men are don't usually fall in love. That's characteristic of women.

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Does sex equal one's social experience? Can a person not have fun without engaging in sexual activities? I certainly think playing video games is entertaining; does that make me socially inept? I enjoy hanging out with friends (and I do); does that make me socially inept?


No, not hanging out with many friends and girls makes you socially inept. You should find hanging out with friends to be fun. Obviously! Video games are fun, but not as fun as getting laid. How often do you hangout with friends? On a weekly basis?!


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Wow, I'm cool among people I don't care about. How special! I do hope that "cool" factor will play a vital role in your college acceptance.


Depends on what makes me cool. If my parents were billionares I'm sure I'd be cool and that that would play a big part in my college acceptance. Social statuses and how intelligent you are should not correlate, why would you assume they do? I don't like to watch sports, but some people think it's cool. I'll watch sports with a friend, but I won't alone. It's a social event, it's fun because you're doing it with people. So is sex, masturbating isn't that fun, is it?

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Probably, probably, probably. All statistics. All wrong. A part of me actually pities you; but the most of it is just laughing at your future.



I'm laughing at your present. : (


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Do you even know what a "nerd" is? I classify myself as one. Does that mean I'm socially inept? You work in black and white; I actually have grey areas. Your way of thinking is so flawed that I can't even begin to think how you've gotten to this conclusion.


If you look up the word 'nerd' in a dictionary you will see that socially inept is one of the definitions. I just happened to look that word up whilst in an argument with someone before I posted this topic. : ) How is that flawed, if you have no reason for being a virgin when you're of age or near of age, then you trully are the equivalent. You failed to seek sex. I already mentioned exception, I too have some gray areas, just not as many as you might.

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And I disagree.


I'm glad you didn't take the time to write a one word answer. Society, communities, the vast majority of people around you? Tell me when I'm wrong.

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Once again, I disagree.


Thank you for once again explaining the reason why you disagree. You're a great debater.

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No, it means you follow the crowd. You're a nobody. You're a nobody who wants to be a somebody in a group of nobodies. Wow, you've become succesful! All the nobodies know you. You must be proud of yourself.


Enough nobodies make somebody. How do you think the Russians became Communist? They all got together an decided? Everyone was happy and agreed? Do you even know what success is? When I was asked this a long time ago, I responded with this: The degree by which you envy others. The more envious you are, the less successful you are. Understand? You might have a different definition, that's my connotation. Oh and... who are the somebodies? You and your close knit cliche of internet gamers? I see. I guess I better strive to impress you with awesome StarCraft maps aswell!

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If "successful" is what you defined it as, then I pity your child.


I defined Success above.

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It's funny how you talk about passing on genes and, yet, you're not having sex for kids. Surely you've realized this contradiction, no?


Sex is the intended culmination of one's life because nature intended you to not have safe sex, understand. Nature evolved the process of sex to be enjoyable so it would happen more often. Not at all, sex is such a pinacle because it should lead to children. If you think about it, successful sex is. But sex in general is aswell considered so. Sex is the greatest of natural ecstasy. Calm down Cheezus, go out, get laid. Be happy.

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I hope people like you stay away from me; you know, hang out with your own kind as you've said. So, you know, go away!


Honestly, I get negative responses from people who obviously don't have true social lives. I don't need to say the same to you, because it's understood. If we knew eachother in school... I would ignore you, I wouldn't see you. I wouldn't waste time talking to you.

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While true, that is what nature "intended", we are not living in nature anymore. We have a society. The very thing you were using to back up your argument has just destroyed you.


Ah, but how you do you know that society isn't an effect of how nature evolved our minds? Societies do not destroy nature's intentions, intelligence and free will does.

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Bragging rights. Heh. If I wanted to compare us with society judging, I am one-hundred percent sure they will see me as superior. Why? Because I have more bragging rights than you do. Either the society be like you imagine it or reality, I'll win.


So now you're saying you're cooler than me because... you didn't say? Maybe because you're a badass virgin with attitude and an A+ in Economics. Or maybe because you stay home typically and play video games and chat on forums all day. Which one makes you superior to me, again?

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Wow, that sound's fun! Because, obviously, that's all we talk about. Sex. What a crazy thing it is. Math? Who cares! Music? Who cares! It's all useless when we can talk about sex.


Yeah me and my friend were talking about the integration of function with many variables yesterday. It was a very interesting conversation. [/end sarcasm] I talk about music, but I also talk about people. I'll talk about what me and my friend did if it's interesting enough or if I'm asked. Or how I did with a girl, after meeting her, etc. I'll also talk about my experiences in general. I see that you experience math and music, since you brought those up as your main examples. Well, I'm impressed. Math and Music, it's a mystery that you're a virgin... why wouldn't you have more friends and girlfriends if you founds those two things interesting enough to talk about? What a mystery!


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Society accepts me. That's why I'm not in jail. Society has praised me with rewards already. Have you gotten anything from society and not just praise from your friends?



The government puts people in jail because they don't think they are helpful to society. Like if you hangout with a druggy and your parents stop you from hanging out with him, or put in a cage. Which ever works. What do you get from society? Society typically deals insults, but at times you get exhaulted. If my friend got a threesome, I would definetly congragulate him. I might even envy him for an hour, because I think that's awesome! I said the envy line to reinforce my definition of success. Get it? I don't really understand your last sentence, but I'm sure it's relevant like the rest of your arguments anyways. Have fun with your friends, I hope those complex fractions go well with Weezer.


Edit: -.-' did my quotes really not work? : ( Oh and DT said that or implied that a good and active social live affected your future negatively... NOT AT ALL, now you're just saying you have to be a loser to be successful. NOT AT ALL, you can get into a good college and still be 'cool'. You honestly have no idea what you're talking about. It's all about not messing up in school and where it matters, which really doesn't have to do with your social life greatly. Inless it really is 'cool' to fail then what you say doesn't make sense, DT. : ( Sorry.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2006-07-09 at 02:04:50
NEVERMIND! biggrin.gif

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See my point? You gain respect from getting a girl to sleep with you because it's not easy task, depending on the girl and your age.

Tell me your:
-GPA
-ACT/SAT Score
-Class Rank
-Achievements excluding sexual activities.

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Thank you, but before you can get as good as me in this field, you need a social life. : (

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought I said I had one already.

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Yeah you're right, survival of your genes. Thanks for clarifying for us.

Correct. Now explain to me how that strengthens your argument on sex for social status. Oh, it doesn't.

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Oh, you're right... society wants for us to be hobos and prostitutes. Whoops, was wrong again, luckily you're their to make everything correct!

Yeah, because obviously when I disagree, everything must be taken to the opposite extreme. So much for the grey areas you mentioned later.

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I'm laughing at your present. : (

And yet, you know nothing about my life since you deny my social activity. I know plenty about yours based on your arguments and descriptions.

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If you look up the word 'nerd' in a dictionary you will see that socially inept is one of the definitions. I just happened to look that word up whilst in an argument with someone before I posted this topic.

Congratulations, you looked up a word. Now look up the real definition of nerd. Use Wikipedia; it'll give you an up to date definition and description of exactly what it is and how it came to be. Rather than just learning a word, learn the history. Or maybe you think that's something only nerds would do.

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How is that flawed, if you have no reason for being a virgin when you're of age or near of age, then you trully are the equivalent. You failed to seek sex.

How can I fail that which I never tried? I have plenty of reasons to be a virgin; if I am to be respected among respectful peers, I must give them my trust. This is something you will never understand.

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Thank you for once again explaining the reason why you disagree. You're a great debater.

I haven't explained. You need to read.

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Enough nobodies make somebody.

Wrong. Enough nobodies makes a big pile of nobodies. I couldn't careless if the whole world thought earth was flat. I hold my beliefs and if you want to disagree, be my guest.

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How do you think the Russians became Communist? They all got together an decided?

Wrong. Learn some history before using it.

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Everyone was happy and agreed? Do you even know what success is?

Success is different for everyone. My success is simply being happy. I am happy. To me, I am successful. Obviously, I have other goals, but being happy is all I really desire.

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When I was asked this a long time ago, I responded with this: The degree by which you envy others. The more envious you are, the less successful you are. Understand?

I envy no one.

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You might have a different definition, that's my connotation. Oh and... who are the somebodies?

Somebodies are people who can contribute to society. Something that you are incapable of doing.

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I defined Success above.

Precisely why I will pity your child.

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Sex is the intended culmination of one's life because nature intended you to not have safe sex, understand. Nature evolved the process of sex to be enjoyable so it would happen more often.

Now you're making up stuff. You don't understand love, evolution nor sex. Why do you even bother bringing up points that can potentially be used against you? Evolution allowed sex because it allows reproduction. Asexual reproduction does exist you know. That is a lot more effecient than sexual reproduction; evolution would favor it over the other. So why does sexual reproduction exist? It's not because it makes you happy; it's because it works. There, a lesson in biology. Learn some more next time.

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But sex in general is aswell considered so. Sex is the greatest of natural ecstasy. Calm down Cheezus, go out, get laid. Be happy.

Once again, why do I have to "get laid" to be happy?

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Honestly, I get negative responses from people who obviously don't have true social lives. I don't need to say the same to you, because it's understood. If we knew eachother in school... I would ignore you, I wouldn't see you. I wouldn't waste time talking to you.

I wouldn't waste my breath around you either. I purposely ignore people like you. Why? Because the space you fill is a waste and seeing it go to waste hurts me. Again, this is something you won't understand because you can't see it from the other point of view.

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Ah, but how you do you know that society isn't an effect of how nature evolved our minds? Societies do not destroy nature's intentions, intelligence and free will does.

It doesn't need to destroy it; it only needs to change it. It has been changed. It's interesting to note that, here, you are arguing for a society that fits my description. Come now, don't let silly contradictions be in your arguments! Argue from one point of view or stop.

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So now you're saying you're cooler than me because... you didn't say? Maybe because you're a badass virgin with attitude and an A+ in Economics.

I don't need to brag; I already know I'm far superior to you socially. You don't know my life, as I explained already.

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Or maybe because you stay home typically and play video games and chat on forums all day. Which one makes you superior to me, again?

This is proof you don't know about me as neither is true.

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Yeah me and my friend were talking about the integration of function with many variables yesterday. It was a very interesting conversation.

That is why you'll never appreciate true art.

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I talk about music, but I also talk about people.

Tell me what you talk about in music and I'll show you how you know nothing about it.

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I'll talk about what me and my friend did if it's interesting enough or if I'm asked. Or how I did with a girl, after meeting her, etc.

Well, I actually talk about things that could contribute to society. Refer to above.

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I see that you experience math and music, since you brought those up as your main examples. Well, I'm impressed. Math and Music, it's a mystery that you're a virgin... why wouldn't you have more friends and girlfriends if you founds those two things interesting enough to talk about? What a mystery!

Math has always been a topic of interest to me. You wouldn't understand the beauty of it. I admit that I don't know many (not none) girls that like math. However, I bring music up because the many girls I know love music. Not the same kind you would love. Real music.

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The government puts people in jail because they don't think they are helpful to society. Like if you hangout with a druggy and your parents stop you from hanging out with him, or put in a cage. Which ever works.

Then do us a favor and tell your police and/or parents that you're not a virgin.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Veta on 2006-07-09 at 02:31:15
QUOTE(CheeZe @ Jul 9 2006, 12:04 AM)
NEVERMIND! biggrin.gif
Tell me your:
-GPA
-ACT/SAT Score
-Class Rank
-Achievements excluding sexual activities.
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3.8 without counting optional courses... basic 5 courses (higher with them)
I haven't taken the SAT yet? I decided to wait until my Senior year. You don't do anything then, I don't remember what I got on the PreSAT, I think it was good though. My parents wanted me to do well and my siblings all have SAT training things so I plan on doing a lot of cramming before the SATs.
My class rank is out of over 1000 in just my grade. It's 132, or that's what it was in April, I don't have my most recent report card with me. I lost it or something... I'm sure it was near there or high because I aced my finals, except language... which was still reasonibly high.

By achievements... what do you mean? I'm in the NHS? I got in as a Sophomore. I completed basic weapons training and basic training in a Military School... I have 2 years of Leadership Classes... It was required, I spent two years in a Military School. If you want to know about that, I was troublesome kid in Middle School and then I got sent to MMA which allows 8-12th grades. Went there until I was a Sophomore, it was an all boys school. : ( Everyone was pretty sex obsessed so that might be where my ideas developed. I enjoy being on a computer when I have free time because that's all I could do in a confined area with guys. I enjoy it, but I don't enjoy it as much as having a social life. That's where we differ.

I think you said achievements as in something like 'Eagle Scout'? I never did Boy Scouts. Oh and... I made varsity Rifle Team as a Freshmen, playing Halo helped me out. : ) I still have some of my competition targets, I could get a scanner and upload one later if there's doubts. We shot precision rifles, Pellet Rifles in competitions and C22s for recreation. Also handguns and shotguns, for recreation. But don't think I'm into hunting or anything, I just did Rifle Team because it seemed like the easiest activity to do and we were required to do activities. Also my particular 'Company' (a division of the school population... it mirrors the Marine's System: Line, Squad, Platoon, Company, Battalion, etc. ) was always on the Rifle Team because our DI (Drill Instructor, the old dude that made sure we didn't do anything stupid) taught the activity.



Is that enough?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-07-09 at 03:08:14
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What's the purpose of 'True Love' for the passing of our genes? Here's the truth, men are driven by sexual urges and women are driven by 'love' if you will. A guy tells a girl that he loves her and then he leaves. He lets the girl raise the kids and finds a new girl to pass his genes to. Nature intended that, that's why Men are don't usually fall in love. That's characteristic of women.


Has it every occurred to you that children grow up better with two parents?

If you want to live as nature intended, then I dare you to go the rest of your life without taking medicine, or visiting a doctor, denstist, or orthodontist (hey, there weren't any of the above 20,000 years ago and humans survived, right?) Have fun.

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3.8 without counting optional courses... basic 5 courses (higher with them)


*Snorts* Such crap passes for "good" in this country.

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Oh, you're right... society wants for us to be hobos and prostitutes. Whoops, was wrong again, luckily you're their to make everything correct!


No, real society wants you to settle down, get a job, a wife, and a family, and live a life. Somehow I don't see this fitting into your "screw as many girls as you can and leave them" philosophy.

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Sex is the intended culmination of one's life because nature intended you to not have safe sex, understand. Nature evolved the process of sex to be enjoyable so it would happen more often. Not at all, sex is such a pinacle because it should lead to children.


Like I said before, sex is NOT the culmination of life. What good is a child that does not reach maturity. You have to help to raise the children you create. Leaving women behind doesn't seem to further this.

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DT said that or implied that a good and active social live affected your future negatively... NOT AT ALL, now you're just saying you have to be a loser to be successful. NOT AT ALL, you can get into a good college and still be 'cool'. You honestly have no idea what you're talking about. It's all about not messing up in school and where it matters, which really doesn't have to do with your social life greatly. Inless it really is 'cool' to fail then what you say doesn't make sense, DT. : ( Sorry.


Way to put words in my mouth. I did not say having a "good social life" by your standards negatively affects your future. It certainly does not help it. Being a success in life has nothing to do with the number of girls you have sex with. Nothing at all.

Typically, however, people who subscribe to your philosophy turn out to be failures in life.

Ten to one says I'll be making more than you 25 years from now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Veta on 2006-07-09 at 03:50:22
[QUOTE]Correct. Now explain to me how that strengthens your argument on sex for social status. Oh, it doesn't. [/QUOTE]

Sex is intended naturally as the pinacle of life, society reinforces that in the modern era with respect. Genes were mentioned to show how nature intended it. Those two points contributed to the greater statement of Sex being part of life and not a new subject.


[QUOTE]Yeah, because obviously when I disagree, everything must be taken to the opposite extreme. So much for the grey areas you mentioned later.[/QUOTE]

What am I supposed to assume? When people disagree with me I assume they completely disagree otherwise they would've gone into detail explaining what they agree with and disagree with.

[QUOTE]And yet, you know nothing about my life since you deny my social activity. I know plenty about yours based on your arguments and descriptions. [/QUOTE]

I know plenty about yours based on your arguments and descriptions.

[QUOTE]Congratulations, you looked up a word. Now look up the real definition of nerd. Use Wikipedia; it'll give you an up to date definition and description of exactly what it is and how it came to be. Rather than just learning a word, learn the history. Or maybe you think that's something only nerds would do.[/QUOTE]

I suppose an easier way to have said that is learn the etymology. Well, if you go to www.dictionary.com and read in depth into the smaller text you get the etymology of most words. I hope there's something that would make what you're saying relevant rather than just a response? You don't have to respond for the sake of responding, you didn't know what the definition for Nerd was, I told you what it was and it can mean socially inept. You seemed hostile when you found yourself to be in a contradiction. Also, why would I go to an encyclopedia to get a definition? Maybe I'm just weird, www.dictionary.com serves me well.

[QUOTE]How can I fail that which I never tried? I have plenty of reasons to be a virgin; if I am to be respected among respectful peers, I must give them my trust. This is something you will never understand.[/QUOTE]

Well, in this context... fail means a lack of doing something. I think that's also a denotative definition, not just one of my many connotations. What brands a peer respectful? Who decides what's worth respecting? You can respect someone for something but that doesn't mean they're worthy of it. Society decides what's respectful. That's something you're having trouble understanding.

That line about trust really didn't make sense, maybe you had an idea in your head but failed to convey it... oh well.

[QUOTE]I haven't explained. You need to read.[/QUOTE]

That might've been better if you made the first sentence a rhetorical question.

Yeah, maybe you didn't read the context of that quote, you failed to explain why you disagreed with society deciding what's 'cool' or 'honorable'. Hopefully you can answer something besides what's in the quote... (IE in a past quote/post)

[QUOTE]Wrong. Enough nobodies makes a big pile of nobodies. I couldn't careless if the whole world thought earth was flat. I hold my beliefs and if you want to disagree, be my guest.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Wrong. Learn some history before using it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I wasn't being sarcastic and using rhetorical questions at all! No, you shouldn't... if there's proof saying otherwise. The example I cited proved that enough nobodies makes something. So, you believe something without proof... I'm a positive atheist, this is my specialty


(Double Response)



[QUOTE]Success is different for everyone. My success is simply being happy. I am happy. To me, I am successful. Obviously, I have other goals, but being happy is all I really desire.[/QUOTE]

You're obviously not a philosophical person, you're happy because you don't desire anything else at the moment, if you did... you wouldn't trully be happy. I don't think you're happy but I'll just assume you're telling the truth, or just very ignorant.

The less ignorant you get, the less happy you are. : (

[QUOTE]I envy no one.[/QUOTE]

Do you wish you had more money? Do you desire anything? If another person has it, you're envious. I'm not saying you wish you were someone else but you probably envy something or some aspect of someone else's life. Don't lie.



[QUOTE]Somebodies are people who can contribute to society. Something that you are incapable of doing.[/QUOTE]

What do you contribute? OH MAN THOSE STARCRAFT MAPS ARE SOOOOO000LOLZORR0Z HELPFUL! You're worth something when the Economy values your time. When your time is worth something, you're worth something. Right now, you're time isn't worth minimum wage. I am not saying I'm worth more or less than you to Society, I can't say that... I'd have to assume. I try to avoid assuming. (I do though)


Aren't I just full of philosophical views, CheeZus?

[QUOTE]Precisely why I will pity your child.[/QUOTE]

How do you define success? You said above something about happiness? You can't be at fully happy, you always desire more, it's human nature. So what you say logically or philosophically doesn't make sense... like philosophically I'm an agnostic because I can't disprove god-claims.

[QUOTE]Now you're making up stuff. You don't understand love, evolution nor sex. Why do you even bother bringing up points that can potentially be used against you? Evolution allowed sex because it allows reproduction. Asexual reproduction does exist you know. That is a lot more effecient than sexual reproduction; evolution would favor it over the other. So why does sexual reproduction exist? It's not because it makes you happy; it's because it works. There, a lesson in biology. Learn some more next time.[/QUOTE]

Asexual reproduction for large organisms would not work. Learn some biology. Sexual reproduction was favored by nature because it was successful with large cells and organisms. The good feelings of Sex are an effect of Sexual Reproduction, not the other way around. "Learn to read."


[QUOTE]Once again, why do I have to "get laid" to be happy?[/QUOTE]

You haven't though, you're talking about things you know nothing about. If you got laid you might understand what I'm saying. I have a one-up on you because of this, I hope you know. It's inevitable that you'll forfeit this argument.

[QUOTE]I wouldn't waste my breath around you either. I purposely ignore people like you. Why? Because the space you fill is a waste and seeing it go to waste hurts me. Again, this is something you won't understand because you can't see it from the other point of view.[/QUOTE]

I think writing a page about me and what I said is a bit more tedious than breathing, correct?

Also... why don't you respond to what I said? I wrote a good paragraph for each of your lines in my last post, you're dodging what I say now. If you want to be taken seriously, answer my entire post... where a response is called for, at least.

[QUOTE]It doesn't need to destroy it; it only needs to change it. It has been changed. It's interesting to note that, here, you are arguing for a society that fits my description. Come now, don't let silly contradictions be in your arguments! Argue from one point of view or stop.[/QUOTE]

You only said I contradicted myself, show me exactly how and where I contradicted myself with quotes. I'd like to see! I argued that Free Will altered what nature intended, however, society... which is an effect of how nature created our minds keeps it centered on sex and success, survival if you will. Someone else pointed out that survival was the goal of Life. We survive, to pass on our genes. Nature and Society center on Sex. That's my argument, where's the contradiction?

[QUOTE]I don't need to brag; I already know I'm far superior to you socially. You don't know my life, as I explained already.
This is proof you don't know about me as neither is true.
That is why you'll never appreciate true art.
Tell me what you talk about in music and I'll show you how you know nothing about it.[/QUOTE]

I can assume from what you have written as much as you can assume for me. Excluding that tidbit about Military School. I guess a virgin who stays home and on his computer is superior to me socially. Good job, check mate!

True art? You have no idea. My father's an Art Dealer (antique art) and my mother is a restorer. I honestly hate the prospect of art, however I know of it and know it well. I also took an Art History Course. I'm willing to bet I know a lot more about 'Art' than you.


As for music, I talk about bands and genres or specific songs. I don't write music, or play music. Many of my friends are in bands or play guitar/drums. A lot of the girls I've dated were in the said bands as singers or some other part.



[QUOTE]Well, I actually talk about things that could contribute to society. Refer to above.[/QUOTE]

No, I won't refer above, I have seen nothing on my way down to this part that contributes to society. You are worthless to society, you could disappear and the world would still be turning. You're infintismally insignifigant. I am not saying I'm not, but you are.


[QUOTE]Math has always been a topic of interest to me. You wouldn't understand the beauty of it. I admit that I don't know many (not none) girls that like math. However, I bring music up because the many girls I know love music. Not the same kind you would love. Real music.[/QUOTE]

Country? Die more? (A clever play on the 'cry more newb' saying)

I listen to Alternative Rock, catchy songs usually. Some rap, not much... most blows. So, please... tell us all what good music is.

[QUOTE]Then do us a favor and tell your police and/or parents that you're not a virgin.
[/QUOTE]

What will that do? I doubt my parents would care... well my father wouldn't. My mother would probably ignore it. I think that might be different if I was a girl, girls are more protected... typically. The police wouldn't care if I told them I wasn't a virgin, it's legal in Texas, as long as I did it with a minor too.






Please answer to everything I write, don't pick and choose what's relevant and easy to attack, you alter my argument to make it easier to impact. Don't, take on my whole argument.

ADDITION, to DT:
[QUOTE]Has it every occurred to you that children grow up better with two parents?[/QUOTE]

In what respects? In modern respects? Yes, naturally? Not necessarily.

[QUOTE]If you want to live as nature intended, then I dare you to go the rest of your life without taking medicine, or visiting a doctor, denstist, or orthodontist (hey, there weren't any of the above 20,000 years ago and humans survived, right?) Have fun.[/QUOTE]

I hope you know that the nature argument was about Nature and Society supporting sex as the center of success or at least part of success. You fail to realize what I'm arguing, respond in context. Don't copy Cheezus, he has no idea what he's doing.

[QUOTE]*Snorts* Such crap passes for "good" in this country.[/QUOTE]

What is/was your GPA as a Junior? I hope you know, I hardly try in school. I admit... it's fairly easy in America. In Military School I had a much high GPA (All you have to do is homework and study) but I won't bother going into that.

[QUOTE]No, real society wants you to settle down, get a job, a wife, and a family, and live a life. Somehow I don't see this fitting into your "screw as many girls as you can and leave them" philosophy.[/QUOTE]

Society thinks screwing girls is cool. Is that any more apparent now? Your main goal in life is to raise a family and be successful, yes. But as a youth... you chase tail. That wasn't my philosophy either, you're taking things out of context, I said nature intended men to do that. Prove me otherwise, I'm infallible.


[QUOTE]Like I said before, sex is NOT the culmination of life. What good is a child that does not reach maturity. You have to help to raise the children you create. Leaving women behind doesn't seem to further this.[/QUOTE]

Sex is the intended pinacle of life for men, society gives respect for having sex. Morally, you should raise kids when you're old enough. You're confusing morals and what society thinks now. They're two completely different things. Usually opposites.


[QUOTE]Way to put words in my mouth. I did not say having a "good social life" by your standards negatively affects your future. It certainly does not help it. Being a success in life has nothing to do with the number of girls you have sex with. Nothing at all.[/QUOTE]

Way to misread what I said! I said 'by that I can assume you also mean'. But you're arguing that it does affect it, obviously negatively. If you were arguing that it didn't affect it then you wouldn't've mentioned it, because it's irrelevant. Would you? Is this clear enough? Infallible.

Your social life has no great affect on your success (although it can depending on how society values success)

Typically, however, people who subscribe to your philosophy turn out to be failures in life.

That's not true, look at every male actor. Look at drug dealers. Jocks are what you might be referring to. I am not describing jocks, although some might fit into some descriptions. And a failure is someone who envies others, what if people are happy as janitors, it's not your place to say that they're unsuccessful. It's society's. Society decides that. And if you agree to this, then you agree to my argument. Which is the only way yours might make sense in this case. (Or at least agree to aspects of what I say, I assume you're getting there)

[QUOTE]Ten to one says I'll be making more than you 25 years from now.[/QUOTE]


My cousin is an accountant in NYC right now. He's 28. After 3 years in the US he made partner of his firm. He's living a good life. My plans are to go into a similar field. And, Twenty-five to one says that I'll be happier and most likely more successful than you in 10 years.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2006-07-09 at 03:57:01
define virgin...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2006-07-09 at 03:58:30
I find this slightly inappropriate and definately pointless.

>Lock.
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