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ROFL, I make maps depending on the clan I am in, If I am in Oo, it will have top quallity stuff on it, and in another clan I just make other stuff. And.. I told you i quit those other clans, which means I wasnt multi-clanning, when i joined Oo. And I doubt I will come back because you guys have no good taste in maps. You don't know what is original, and you can't tell the difference between two completely different map types. I make a defense, and you say it is the exact samething as an arcade type of game. Um... no its not. Solar said he made observer d efense that was exactly like apeiron, and you call observer defense the same as bomb squad?? You think using different types of ways to kill enemies in a defense is repetitive?? WOW, Every map I have seen made by an Oo member is more repetetive than Bomb Squad. Triggerwise, There were more complex triggers in Bomb Squad than Solarball.
Solar ball=45??
Bomb Squad=38??

bomb squad more original.
not as repetitive.
Funner.
and more complex triggers.

That is the main reason i left. right there.

You guys are just jealous that I am better than you, and you just give me a lower score
(if you quote that line you are also jealous) ©2006 all rights reserved jk



To you maybe, but who said i wanted to multiclan with two map making clans?? I wanted to stay in Es to keep my Pro melee gaming up. And in map making clans how active do you have to be?? I can be in your clan and be offline for weeks, making a map, then come online release it, and gone again making another map. Why do you need to stay in the channel on useast, there is no Clan Oo activities that you HAVE to participate in.


What can I do? I do enough around the house, I love being on the computer, I love programming, I love being in clans and doing clan activities, Why do you want to rip away stuff you love?? Just to make people who dont love it happy? I doubt all of you will be going into computer related careers. If there is some1 that is going into a computer related career, he/she will understand more than you.

Solar, I asked you if I could help the clan in any way, then some1 replied you can make forum. I did, then some1 said you were going to accept. Its still yours, just pm me or something.


What do you love to do?? If you were given a chance to do what you loved to do all day everyday would you do it?? I have that chance and I am doing it, I am living my life the way I want it, and I am not gonna stop just because you THINK it is an obsession, or wasting my life.


No.


No.


You just show up because im popular, and you want to be popular with me
Solar is jealous, he made a topic all about me. YAY


I do what I do because, I'm good at it. and I love it.
It is not what I am underneath, It is what I do that defines me.
YAY FOR BATMAN!!!!

Noone cares. -.- I won't read all that.

And who says you'll be given the option to come back?


Really? How many Monopoly maps are there? I'd say that's an original map. I know that Monopoly is not the same type of map as Path Defense.


So far you seem to be attacking me, but I never said that. Sorry.


It is the same freaking thing. You move a unit close to the god damn track to kill oncoming units. In Observer defense, you were able to aim the observer that you shot onto the track AND you can actually see what you're killing as opposed to your triggers that just kill whatever units are in that square based on the "bomb" you use. Those seem to be pretty similar in map types. Again, sorry.


No. Making a unit move down toward the track to kill a set amount of unit is repetitive. ANd that's what Bomb Squad is.


Really? Which maps? Certainly not the millions of bounds everyone seems to think we have. And it can't be Vic's defenses. Hmm I wonder.


I never brought SolarBall into this. DO you need help figuring out the differences between maps? You claim we can't tell the difference between an arcade game and a defense, but look at this. ONE IF A BALL GAME AND ONE IS A DEFENSE! HOLY crap!


Did I rate SolarBall? No. You're using two separate ratings of two separate maps of two separate raters. Therefore the rest of your argument is illogical.


Than what? As I said, the map has already been made many times. I can post the examples later to prove it.


As what? SolarBall? Yes it is.


Not a word.


More triggers, perhaps, but not more complex.


Wouldn't have mattered anyway. You were gonna get kicked out sooner or later because no one liked hearing your bullcrap.


You keep mentioning Es. What the freak is Es? You act like we've all heard of it. You know how many freaking melee clans there are out there? Its not like the map making world where we know 95% of the clans.

God, if I was still a Mod, Clan Oo's forum would no longer be an option for you. I'm done playing nice.

there it is... The line that prooves hes an 8 year old child with bad parents

Solar did.


I was talking about bomb squad and observer defense


Solar said observer defense was like apeiron, but now its the samething as bomb squad. I have never seen observer defense before, therefore it doesnt exist.


um.. arent all defenses like that?? what tha hell do you expect? At least I dont steal weeds idea and call it Bomb Defense.


Vic is the reason most people are in Oo. Good job vic, you should be leader of this map making clan, solar should go do sniper clan.


hmm Solarball can technically be a defense, you are defending your goal from a ball going into it. HOLY CRAP I SAID HOLY CRAP TOO!!!


Should have 1 rater, and a fair rater, none of this stupid solarball is better than bomb squad crap.


So what?? you have a map that I just made and released, and you just bring it out now to say its been made before?? Out of like hmm i tested my map 40+ times, beta tested 20+ times 4 ppl from public atleast, so... 240 people think my map is completely original. I have been playing starcraft for many years and never seen a map like it before, other than weed's incomplete one.


um.. moving corsair ontop of scourge. webbing a scourge. thats all you do. 2 things for however long the game goes on.

Bomb squad you, buy move units to edge and aim carefully, you could buy specials that don't come that often. You use different bombs. No its not as repepitive.



NOT REAL!


Hmm.
Center locations on corsairs.
Center location on scourge
Center location on the side stuff
order move scourge opposite sides
create stuff under
kill stuff under

how simple is that?
I use lots of ifs and elses in bomb squad. if no enemies at the location it wont do blood. If the level has started there is no starters.. And the armageddon oooh thats complex. Too bad you sucked at the game and weren't able to use it.


What bullcrap??


You know what, Tell me what the point of your clan is? What do people in your clan get for makign maps for you? All I see them get is NOTHING!! There is no point in being in this clan. Clan Oo is overrated by 100%. What do you get out of being in Clan Oo.


WOW, you need to get out more...


I didnt know people still have imaginary friends at your age. Let's catch up. Santa isnt real, the easter bunny isnt real, Cupid isnt real, Leprechauns arent real. Lastly, God isn't real.

and... what did i do wrong?? I am not spamming, I am not being mean towards anyone, Snipe/T- are posting bad things. And that sounds like a threat so now you T- and snipe post bad things. You should be banned from Oo forum.

You done playing nice?? who said we were playing? I am talking.

To be nice, I'm sure. He's as annoyed of you as the rest of us.


And I'd know that how? You were also comparing Bomb Squad and SolarBall at one point so I figured I could compare whatever I wanted as well.


I said it was like Observer Defense. I never said it was like Apeiron. Solar said it was like Apeiron. He never said it was like Observer Defense. Why are you mixing up what we say? To Solar, it now isn't the same thing as bomb squad. To me it was never like Apeiron.


I have never seen half of Kenoli's maps, therefore they do not exist. I have never seen a map by MillenniumArmy, therefor all 100+ of his don't exist. I have never seen you, therefore you do not exist. Nice logic.


Yes. So? I wasn't saying all defenses are not repetitive.


I recruited Vic, therefore I was here before him. He was leader for a while. It didn't work out, and he resigned.


And so that would mean any map could be a defense? What a cop out.


Then go ask a rater for his opinion of both maps rather than complain about having only one rater int he entire clan.


I've been playing SC since 1998 and I've seen that map 4 times (including yours, which is the most recent).


Carefully aim? There are large rectangles that you move the "bomb" to. Its jut as repetitive to me. Just agree to disagree and let it go.


Are you freaking retarded? This is your damn arguement? You're going to say that God isn't real after I say the word "funner" isn't real. Grow up.


Lol. Yeah, that's about it. Just lol. I'm laughing so hard right now... hang on one second I need a drink of water...

...okay I'm back.


What bullcrap? Do you actually read the reponses to some of the things you say? (U) members, Mp) members, and Oo members alike think your posts make you seem too arrogant. Hell just look at this thread as an example.


I need to get out more beause I can name all 6 legit map making clans? You're the one talking about being in 3 clans and then spouting all this crap about how much you wanted to practice your pro melee skills in some unknown clan called Es. Give me a freaking break.


Okay this arguement is so flawed to begin with that I don't even know where to start.

1. On God: Tell that to the masses of people who believe in some form of God in this world. And then realize the hole you just dug. I don't believe in God, myself.
2. Maybe you don't realize it but "God" is used as an expression in the English language.
3. Why would you use this as a basis for an arguement? Are you like 5?


What did you do wrong? Well lets see... you were spamming (remember the Flight of the Phoenix thread?), you were annoying everyone, you bothered both of Oo's leaders, you argued with higher ranks... ugh why do I go on, you'll just argue it. I wont be banned from Oo's forum, and I have no reason to be. That was a threat by me, though. I'll put it in writing.


I was playing. I just said I was playing. As a matter of fact you just quoted me saying I was playing. Therefore saying "who said we were playing" is mindless.

Go ahead and respond again. I know you'll just refute everything I said. And I'll probably just respond with a big "LOL."

Totaly..

Hm...

Opinion, of course your gonna think your map is better because you made it.



Thats just sad, just because some people dont like your map as much as you do isnt a reason to leave a clan.

Phoenix is freaked in the head...

Every one has a little bias, obviously. But to claim that your defense map is the most original map in a long time is absurd. And on top of that, he'll claim its better than the leader's hit map. Phoenix needs to learn about politics. Supposing I was in his position, if I felt that Helen Keller RPG kicked SolarBall's ass, I'll still act like it didn't to get ahead in the clan - and he seemed to woant to make many changes, which would require him to get ahead.

But when we get right down to it, that kind of arrogance is deadly. We have map makers like Bolt and Tuxedo who know they're good but don't go comparing their maps to others just to put the other map down. And that is what makes them so good. Its that respect to other map makers that Phoenix lacks.

His arguement has some valid points, though, like claiming that SolarBall was rated too high. But the flawed part is that he was using my rating against Snipe's (I think). If I had rated SolarBall, it would have been like a 40 or 41, right down there with Phoenix's 38 that I gave him. Snipe's rating of 45 for SolarBall and I believe 42 for Phoenix's map is also pretty close. Phoenix fails to realize this I assume, for the purpose of being a drama queen.

Ugh he really needs to learn economics - or specifically the term "ceteris paribus" or "with other things being the same," essentially means that you have to look at things within context. You can't compare sales of apples to sales of orangeswhen they have no link. Thereofre you cannot compare my rating of your map to some one else's rating of Solar's map.

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Thats it, I won't have people think of me like this.

are u crazy? you looked up to me... i did not show up cause your "popular"

Really? So far, since you starte dposting in Oo's forum, you have lookd like that. I tolerated it at first because I try to be friendly to everyone, but for some reason you pushed my buttons like crazy. I'll be civil if you want to be civil.

ADDITION:
Here's a new PM I got from Shocko:
"Shocko: Phoenix if u think ur that great at map making because you can make a defense then your not that great. As for repetetive maps all defenses are repetetive. Look at Element Duelz that game will be repetetive but with all the custom spells it will have a high quality. Even though the simplicity of Solarball is like super uber simple they still have fun with it. As for multi clanning i too as a leader do not allow it. If your unhappy with Clan Oo stop moaning about it and move on"

Shockos abit full of himself but ya sure I agree with him for once O.O

1. Bomb squad barely even works, and solarball is fine tuned. Sball does have complex triggering, take a look at it if you don't agree. Look something up before you talk about it. Uhm and one more thing... Solarball was made TWO years before your map has. The rating system is totally different. The amount of time people spent playing Solarball, and the amount of time people play your bomb map should say something. I don't really care about who's map is better, but please, don't try to bring that into it.

2. You really really really brought it upon yourself. You harassed the leaders, and just spammed everywhere... You even had a contest to see who could make the best map as a tribute to you...

3. It's not personal, there's nothing to argue about. You can't multi clan in Oo, and nobody really enjoyed how you acted. You're cool at other times tho, and I'm sure you'll get better at being an integral part of the community as time goes on.

why do people support the no multi clanning rule so much it makes no sence...i could be secretly multi clanning if i had another screenname...does the clan like force you to be a slave of that one clan?

btw...i sorta enjoyed how he acted...although he could have been more civil...about the multi clanning...

From Shocko:

Where did that come from?

A PM to me.

i thought phoenix was a mac person...so it would seem complex...

I'm a Mac person. We still can do the exact same triggers as PC people. We can't do terrain like PC people or place units/sprites like PC people, but the triggers are basically the same.

you cant stack units?? I can. its all in the wheel. I can do nice terrain.. its all in the wheel. I can stack doodads its all in the undo/redo