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Take your rediculous theories elsewhere.

People standing in the very holes where the planes crashed into... Strage how according to you it was a roaring fire that was so hot as to melt the beams... Yet this womens body seems to withstand the heat.


For a closer look...

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This is NOT a dicussion for what happened on 9/11. There's already a serious discussion for that.

The picture's good, but otherwise, you have no advertisement whatsoever. This is not original, since anybody could've thought it up, but I would play it if you told me what was in it! Otherwise, I'm not even going to bother downloading it.

So far, if you want ideas, go to the IDEAS/CONCEPT forums.
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So your saying that a government proven to have tendancies to harm its own citizens to make way for its own agenda having to do with 9/11 is rediculous...

How can that be more rediculous then 19 men in caves making NORAD stand down for the first time in its 50 years of operation. Or the fact that Andrews Airforce Base, having 2 combat ready squadrons could not fly 10 miles to Washington D.C. within the timespace of an hour and around 30 minutes... ITs ludicrous. But of course, your mind is so warped with propaganda that you can't understand that.

If you can prove everything in that big lie document is false, I will literally paypal $30 bucks over to you. But then again.. you can't.

ABOUT THE MAP:
I think the terrain is good except for the flames at the bottom, they just didn't seem right in that picture for some odd reason.
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“I’m looking at the tower, at one (WTC-1), and two (WTC-2) is set back. Obvious-ly the south one is set back farther. I don’t recall a lot of flame from that vantage point, from looking up from the west side of West Street. People were standing out there. A lot of smoke drifting up, a lot of dark black smoke drifting up on tower one from the lowest floor of fire, obscuring the top somewhat. I didn’t see a lot of flame coming out of windows or anything.”

One Meridian Plaza, Philadelphia, PA. On February 23, 1991 fire gutted eight floors of the 38-story modern steel framed skyscraper.92 The fire burned for 18 hours. The extreme heat caused window glass and frames to melt and concrete floor slabs and steel beams to buckle and sag dramatically. Large shards of window glass fell from the facade, cutting through fire hoses on the ground around the building. The fire would not yield and there were increasing concerns about the stability of the structure. Fire officials called off the attack and allowed the fire to "free burn," concentrating their efforts on containing the fire to this build-ing. The building did not collapse and was event-ually repaired.

Its Remember the people who were lost in the twin towers
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Actually, the fighters/NORAD knew quite well that planes had been hijacked an hour in. It takes literally 1 minute by fighter jet from Andrews Airforce Base to DC. Windy at the top or no, your point is invalid, if the flames were so hot and burning so fiercly, then they would not be blown away, otherwise they would not have melted. You can't take away a fire and hope to have the temperature remain without dropping.

BTW, not sure if you've ever been to a woods party (highly doubt it.) Smoke keeps billowing from a put out fire. So it is very possible that the firefighters (the ones who know what they're talking about) were correct in saying the fires were mostly out and that 2 lines would put out the rest.

You also have never answered from previous threads how the 2nd building collapsed before the 1st... Even though the plane hit 1:29 hours (1 hour and 29 minutes) after the 1st and most of the fuel burned up outside the building. The main concrete core was only partially damaged. It is a known fact that once ignited, jet fuel and many other types of fuel burn quickly. It could be consumed in less then 10 minutes, leaving only the building to burn. Scientist Kevin Ryan of Underwriter Laboratory's has stated on record that the WTC fires reached no higher then 250 degrees celcius. (500 F) Imediately after filing the report about that... he was fired. Given no reason for dismissal. Hell, even NYFD Battalion Chief Brian Dixon said it was not very hot, expecially near the gaping holes in the towers because people were standing in the holes... some even jumping to their deaths. Heres his quote:
You could also bring up the fact that no other steel high rise building has ever collapsed due to fire before 9/11. Even though a fire burned wilder then in the WTC, on more floors, and for longer. If I recall correctly, Meridian Plaza in Philly burned for 18 hours at higher temperatures and raging over 8 floors. Here is the description:
You ask why they would declassify something like that? Mainly because just as all the major news firms did with the massacre at Hathida (SP?), massacre in Aghanistan, and numerous other cases, it was never put mainstream. The most any of them got was a mention here and there then swept under the covers... Then here comes Mr. I killed Jon Benet.. I still fail to see how the murder of a little girl is more important then the massacre of an entire family, a rape, and a burning of a body (which is against the Qu'ran.) It boggles my mind how you put all your trust into these news agencies who put ratings about actual journalism. I'm not just stating Fox, I'm talking about all major corporate news.

Please tell me if any of that information is wrong and I will correct it.
BTW, you probably haven't even touched the link, but check out that PDF. Very informational.

P.S. Chris, just so you know, I didn't get Northwoods from loose change (but of course, knowing you, you assumed I did and believed this video would "prove me wrong". Which of course it hasn't.) I came across it on wikipedia. I then looked up and read the entire document. I never once says "no one is to die in these attacks". Speaking of attacks, you still haven't responded about operation gladio... selective reading? It targeted schools, school buses, and children above all else. The US has the most state-sponsored terrorism worldwide. Ranging from the death squads in el salvador (known also as Reagans Freedom Fighters), overthrowing elected governments of Chile, Iran, Guatemala, Niqueraqua (SP?) and I believe there was 2-3 more. Hell, Kermit Roosevelt (theodores grandson) was the agent who personally overthrew the government of Iran. With endless funds he managed it. Our pre-emptive strikes into countries which we don't agree with... hmm thinking of that.. can anyone name the one other country that had the same forigen policy? Ahhh yes... Hitlers Germany. Pre-emptive strike into Poland after "Polish soldiers (actually German convicts) attacked a radio station to spread their messege of hate."
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Yes Goose that is true i want my terrian to be judged. And btw the flames at the bottom symbolized pain instead of putting them with the tower i wanted to show more depth of the towers and i wanted you to feel pain when you enter that game so that you understand that it was real and not something the government set up.