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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-08-31 at 01:38:23
QUOTE(evolipel @ Aug 30 2005, 09:38 PM)
Actually, about $300-500 every 2-2.5 years.
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I go for 1500 every 7 years
Report, edit, etc...Posted by evolipel on 2005-08-31 at 03:01:36
QUOTE(chuOS @ Aug 30 2005, 11:03 PM)
For me to upgrade my graphics card it would cost me over $500 right now ... and it doesn't need an upgrade but I'm positive I would notice a difference if I did upgrade it.

I just upgraded my ram for $260 and my processor for $100(its still crappy but I'm holding out for a better one and hoping the ram will help my computer run faster).

Does anyone know if I would get a preformance boost if I use a sound card instead of the built in sound in a motherboard?  The sound card is slightly better but I'm considering selling it to a friend.
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You're thinking of the GF 7800GTX. If you were to upgrade to a "sane" top-of-the-line card (say a 7800 GT or a 6800 Ultra, X850XT), it would be 400, and if you were to upgrade to a fairly old top-of-the-line card (a 6800 GT, X800XT), it would be 300. You don't need to upgrade to the very best to be able to play games in a year or two from now with at least medium settings.

The one extra thing you might need to upgrade today/next few years is a new mobo to have the PCI Express port. Those cost about $75-110 though, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

RAM you need to upgrade about every 3 years or so, because I'm still running on a 512 meg system just fine (although I minimalized XP and tweaked it a bit) with NOD32 in the background and playing WoW. A gig would be perfect for today/next couple of years though. 260 sounds about right...

Games like WoW and BF2 really take a toll on the RAM. Basically in situations where you see a lot of HD use, that's where RAM is used (to cache data that would be used and re-used over again). Like, the auction house in WoW or city maps in BF2. If you've got a lot of textures, models, etc. to store before the video card uses them (and it doesn't have them cached in VRAM), RAM helps. Also, if you're running programs in the background, or a lot of programs in general, extra RAM also helps.

A better CPU helps in calculation-intensive tasks, such as AI, physics, etc. Outside of games it could be used to do such tasks as hash breaking (calculating the hash to compare it later takes CPU time, esp. if you do it a lot like in a hash breaking routine... try it out with the unknowns with Ladik's MPQ Editor), lab/research work (SETI @ home and Folding @ home come to mind, although they're designed to have a very low priority.)

Nowadays if your clock speed is above 2ghz you're fine in terms of games (and yes, I realize there's more to CPU's than clock speed. This is just a generalization.) Better processors usually allow an extra 2-10 FPS if the FPS is at like 110 and it's not capped by your video card. Margins like that are so insignificant, the human eye can't tell the difference (it can't tell the difference of anything over 50FPS.)

You would probably not get a performance boost if you use a stand-alone sound card instead of a built-in one, but you would get the benefit of having the sound technology (EAX, EAX2, etc) in games if you could really use it (i.e. have a surround-sound system that you use to process digital out.)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2005-08-31 at 06:34:55
the xbox 360 has free xbox live.
thats awesome. or so i think?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-08-31 at 11:20:46
Yeah I upgraded to two 1 gig sticks from 1 512 stick. I've maxed out the capacity on my mb and I plan on getting a new one next year. I upgraded my processor to 2.1, it's 1.4 right now.

I noticed WoW takes up more memory than Guild Wars and Guild Wars runs way faster and looks less cartoonish (which I like more). Also alt tabbing out of WoW on my computer is like asking it to hang up (rather just clicking out of the screen since I play most of my games in windowed mode when I want to do other things).

Next year the only things I'll upgrade are MB, hard drive, and maybe processor ... I dont know if I want to spend $200-300 on a 3.0 yet.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by evolipel on 2005-08-31 at 12:21:07
QUOTE(chuOS @ Aug 31 2005, 10:20 AM)
Yeah I upgraded to two 1 gig sticks from 1 512 stick.  I've maxed out the capacity on my mb and I plan on getting a new one next year.  I upgraded my processor to 2.1, it's 1.4 right now.

I noticed WoW takes up more memory than Guild Wars and Guild Wars runs way faster and looks less cartoonish (which I like more).  Also alt tabbing out of WoW on my computer is like asking it to hang up (rather just clicking out of the screen since I play most of my games in windowed mode when I want to do other things).

Next year the only things I'll upgrade are MB, hard drive, and maybe processor ... I dont know if I want to spend $200-300 on a 3.0 yet.
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Well, WoW either has more players or Guild Wars has better netcode.

Anyway, I can tell you right now that you probably won't need to upgrade anything next year if you bought a new video card this year.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2005-08-31 at 15:03:20
QUOTE(ChaoticS @ Aug 31 2005, 05:34 AM)
the xbox 360 has free xbox live.
thats awesome. or so i think?
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No it doesn't.
What it has is AIM on the Xbox for free. It's Xbox Live Silver where all you can do is talk to friends on your friends list, not join games. WHich is retarded, who the hell would do that?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by m2nello on 2005-09-01 at 01:20:57
QUOTE(Golden-Fist @ Aug 31 2005, 03:03 PM)
No it doesn't.
What it has is AIM on the Xbox for free. It's Xbox Live Silver where all you can do is talk to friends on your friends list, not join games. WHich is retarded, who the hell would do that?
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Its a tease so they can talk about how good the games are and you want to buy xbox live even more
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Caboose on 2005-09-01 at 01:37:42
I'm buying the 360 right when it comes out I dont care how much it is!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by m2nello on 2005-09-01 at 01:46:49
QUOTE(Caboose @ Sep 1 2005, 01:37 AM)
I'm buying the 360 right when it comes out I dont care how much it is!
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Why if u wait like 2 months it will go down like 100 dollars
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2005-09-01 at 10:32:29
QUOTE(the_man103 @ Sep 1 2005, 12:46 AM)
Why if u wait like 2 months it will go down like 100 dollars
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This thread is attracting morons.

2 MONTHS? TRY 2 YEARS!! It took forever for the price of the Xbox and Ps2 to go down, a year before XBox360 the Xbox was 150 and 2 years before Ps3 comes out Ps2 is 150. I'd rather not miss out on 2 years worth of games.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe)r( on 2005-09-01 at 10:46:22
just buy lotsa mountain dew...

Mountain Dew Gives away one every ten minutes!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-09-01 at 15:46:23
I have been buying a lot since I saw that. I figure I can get a nice $300 for PS3 games when I sell the XBox360 to a friend.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by m2nello on 2005-09-01 at 16:02:29
QUOTE(Golden-Fist @ Sep 1 2005, 10:32 AM)
This thread is attracting morons.

2 MONTHS? TRY 2 YEARS!! It took forever for the price of the Xbox and Ps2 to go down, a year before XBox360 the Xbox was 150 and 2 years before Ps3 comes out Ps2 is 150. I'd rather not miss out on 2 years worth of games.
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It was 500 when it first came out and it dropped to 300 within half a yr
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-09-01 at 16:10:36
I'm calling bullshit on that. The xbox was released at $300.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2005-09-01 at 17:33:12
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It was 500 when it first came out and it dropped to 300 within half a yr

$500 Dollars? Someone is making up bullblam. I hope you relise the thread is talking about how the prive of the Xbox360 may be $400 dollars which is considered expensive, and your telling me, that the 4 year old Xbox was released $100 dollars LESS then the new one? Yeah, sure.

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Just buy lotsa mountain dew...

Mountain Dew Gives away one every ten minutes!!

!!!! *Buys moutain dew*
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