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...Actually, you didn't start with all your weapons in the original Metroid for NES.

True.

chu, you do realize that this game is SEVEN YEARS OLD?

@felagund: I was never into Warhammer that much, since it's hard finding opponents to play table top with and that it is said the game is unbalanced compared to Starcraft... but it seems like quite a gem from what you said there.

@Ultimo: I don't know what Zelda your playing, but Zelda SPECIFICALLY says at the end of the game, "Six sages... Now!". Get your facts straight buddy.

I'm not going to argue about Chrono Trigger, since I have never played it. I don't like cliche stories however, so if that isn't the case, I may like CT.

@Golden-Fist: I never said that the developers said that. Find me where I said it and I will gladly admit a wrong. What I inferred from the game was that it would be realistic, because of the common references to historical events.

There is a big difference between realism from this game and a game like FF. FF basically admits it's unreality since it's a world with dragons, magic and the like. MGS seems more realistic since it makes direct links to history, which us, the players can relate to, in addition to the modern details such as tanks, guns and warehouse architecture. If you can not see how MGS looks similar to the modern world of today, you'd be lying.

Obviously Metroid isn't a realistic game, nor does it try to be. However, it distances itself from our time by a couple thousand years and it is different what my perception of the future is compared to yours. The main reason I find the story interesting is that it's told ENTIRELY from the enemy or Chozo point of view. You read their diaries, reports and scriptures and see what THEY think, so you get to know them based on what they write about, which is something I haven't seen before.

I do see your point that the cliche the game since you just happen to lose all weapons in every game, but there's more to the story than collecting items. The overall story of the planet and the negative effect that a foreign asteroid has on it is interesting, since blame isn't on a particular bad person, but rather nature.

I'm not saying the story is bad because of one example. In fact, I never said it was a bad story in the first place. It has great complexity and a super long script and cutscenes that take nearly 3 hours. What I find confusing is connecting odd elements like cloning, nanomachines that antifreeze your blood and abnormal psychic powers to real world events like the Cold War.

Good day.

The Shin Megami Tensei games have the best storylines I've ever encountered. I think Atlus still sells copies of Shin Megami Tensei III domestically. The basic storyline of most SMT games is something like this: God tries to wipe out humanity, Humans fight back against him with help from Demons.

http://www.classicgaming.com/reviews/megaten/megaten.htm
http://www.classicgaming.com/reviews/megaten/megaten5.htm

Shin Megami Tensei? That is Digital Devil Story right? Pretty cool game, with bad graphics

Deus Ex's Storyline:
You are an augmented agent, J.C Denton, working for U.N.A.T.C.O. A plague has been spreading through the world, and its treatment, Ambrosia, is a controlled substance. Terrorists have been rioting and fighting for Ambrosia, becuase they believe it should belong to the people.

The storyline of the game is interesting, it forks based on your choices, and is somewhat eerie at times. The way its presented is also unique, because right from the beginning you can tell there's corruption in U.N.A.T.C.O. I think this is a shortcoming, as it reduces suspense, but whats also great is the ways you can find information in the world.

More later. Gotta catch the bus.

Do YOU realize that I never once talked about a single game but instead the series of games. You keep talking about JUST Metal Gear Solid. I'm talking about the series of over 5 Metal Gear games ... and why the hell should age matter anyway?

Actually ... why don't you just stop looking at a game and saying 'it looks like or is STW so it sucks to me or it has too many cliche's' and just play the game for once. You would be surprised by how many 'stw' games actually don't suck. Sometimes it's games like these that start those cliche's.

I really liked Starcraft's story, of course. I liked Warcraft 3's story (don't hurt me). I've always liked the Metroid series and Super Mario RPG for the SNES had a good, light-hearted story.

Let's see...

...Umm...Goddamn. So many of the games I've played have been cliche-story games.

Castlevania, Super Mario Bros. (and World), Mega Man, Doom, Duke Nukem, Dark Forces...

Wait. TIE Fighter!

You follow Thrawn's campaign in the Unknown Regions as a fighter pilot in his Navy. Sooner or later, someone betrays the Empire and you have to take them out. That includes destroying the only TIE Defender manufacturing plant in existence. At the end, you see Admiral Thrawn's promotion to the rank of Grand Admiral. This isn't really Save The World, it's more like Dominate the Galaxy.

Revelade what your saying is "They're trying a new Fiction genere, and it sucks, cause it's related to the real world but has Cybernetic Ninjas" there aren't many games like MGS (I can't think of any that are GOOD) but just because they are saying historical facts like the Cold Wars in MGS3 and the other stuff in MGS 2 and 1 doesn't mean they can't add Fiction into it. Also in the world of America today you really have no idea what the goverment is telling us, obviously I doubt the economy of america is run by 12 old guys called "The Patriots" but it's interesting. So to put it in a way that's not trying to argue at you your saying:
"I don't like MGS because it makes refrences to history like the Cold Wars but has people like Vamp, The Cobras, and Phycis Mentos (I forget his name) who are Fiction and should not be in a game relating to history"
Right?

Zelda counts a sage. -_-

Like I said before, I never had a PS2, therefore have missed out on MGS2 and 3. I'm not here talking about those 2 games, but rather MGS1, since that's the ONLY MGS I have played. So say what you want about 2 and 3, but 1 is something I'm willing to debate.

@golden-fist: How many times must I say this? I never said it sucks. It's a complex story, with some unusually emotional or numb characters (in the case of Solid Snake), with a real-world setting.

For the last time, I'm talking about MGS1 here from what I played. I never played 2 and I've only seen my friends play 3, but those aren't what I'm talking about.

It's more like: I don't like MGS because it has historical references, yet involves supernatural elements, but ultimately carries a STW plot.

So to make this clear, I may dislike the MGS plot, but it's just my taste, it doesn't change the fact that it's complex and has voice acting that's believable.

@Ultimo: Yea, I admit defeat here. Though it says she's a sage on Nintendo's site, I can't remember what she's the sage of.

i liked the doom 3 story, they had realistic technology, simple yet sweet

OK, but one last time I must point out that I'm talking about the whole metal gear series. not just the metal gear solid series. Each game ties into each other and to a person who hasn't played all the previous ones they can get very confusing and look really stupid.

Nobody mentioned FF7?
Are you mad??

Plus, since you are just a pawn in the Half-Life series, you really have no clue what's REALLY going on. Makes it interesting.

And Halo 2 had the blamtiest storyline I've ever seen. Halo 1, no. But Halo 2 sucked ass Story-Wise.

Ah!! The Covenant, they coming to Earth!!
The Covenant, they leaving Earth!!
The Master Chief, he chasing the Covenant!!
The Master Chief, he kill the Prophet!!

Eh, I forget the rest.

Rebellion, OMFG!!! Halo's going to blow up the Galaxy? Holy blam!! That's so very, very original I can't contain myself!! [/sarcasm]

Something tells me Revelade would scoff at the meer mention of Final Fantasy 7. I think he made this thread just so he could flaunt his opinions about what makes a good story line in other peoples faces.

The only reason i finished the starcraft campaigns was because of the story.

Same

Making opinions is the point of any post in a forum. I thought someone like you would know that.

I never brought FF7 to the table, nor have I banished it to hell. I never played much of it, but I have heard praises and scoffs from boths sides.

So I assume our discussion, about MGS ends?

Finally, I never said I was the only one who can bring plots into this thread. You think you have one, go ahead and post it. If it's cliche and superficial, I will criticize it however.

Good day.