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Okay, people. There's a big difference between a story (bible), and books that have hard physical evidence to back them up. Get it straight.

Secondly, evolution does have a great deal of evidence to back it up. It's still a theory because nothing can be proven. Newton's LAW of gravity, which moved out of it's theory status and into it's more concrete law status ages ago, was proven wrong by Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. All theories/laws are not 100% correct. Nothing is. In the scientific community, a theory is considered acceptable as fact if it is correct 98% of the time. So evolution can still have tons of factual, physical evidence, and still be considered a theory, and still be correct. Einstein's General Theory of Relativity is considered correct, and most of the greatest scientific studies of our time are based on the belief that it is correct. Yet it can still be disproven in certain rare cases. The fact that it is called a 'theory' does not mean it is any less accurate than a 'law'. Same with evolution.

History is what we know b.c people make up storys hide there defeats and magnify the horrors of the people they defeated but not there own. Like WW2 people try to make the Germans sound evil but for common fact wowwie genocide and conquering lands is common in history. For the Bible well come on it used to be every other day in those times God had talked to someone but now in the ages of people saying O hey he is lieing it hasnt happened in a long time. Plus you cant tell me over those thousands of years that those preist were coping the bible that something didn't get changed. For that one guys thing about chariots found in that ocean well there is such things as High and Low tides well lets say its low its passable your goin across then lets say there is a tidal wave or you dont get across b4 the tides go back up since it could take less than an hour for the tides to raise high enough to drown them and mind you a trip they were taking would take a few good hours. I beleive we are here everything works so just be happy and dont worry bout things that man has created to please his worrys and ego.

darwin disagreed with his theory...

and plus: ISLAM is not the same as judaeism or christianity. the god of thier religeon is not the same God of judaeism or christianity. they are totally separate, contrary to peoples beliefs.

Global warming is just a political issue, its isnt happening because of humans, even scientists have proven that the earth goes through cold and hot cycles.

darwin disagreed because he became religious but before that time, he was fascinated by it (probably still was) and told THE WORLD about his findings on ..what would be called evolution.

if there are multiple gods, why are all the bibles the same?

global warning isn't caused JUST by humans. but humans did have a role in making earth go warmmer (but not all caused by humans because you are right, there may be hot or cold changes at any given time). the release of gasses from cars, power plants, and other things have made earth a more powerful green house.

even so, volcanoes and such emit more gasses and particulates into the air in 1 eruption than humans do in a year

plus (idk if this is relavent ) about overcrouding of the earth, if we took every person in the world adn put them in texas the population density would be that of NYC

That is untrue. Humans release a lot more than volcanos. I'm sure there are more sites but I found this one in about 15 seconds on google.


source: http://volcano.und.nodak.edu/vwdocs/freque...estion4336.html

since its' a edu site, I assume its' real stuff. but i'm 100% sure there are more sites that also agree with this.
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do you want people to be squished up like NYC? there are about 10 people in every 5x5ft area (<-- random estimate). no of course not. and human population ISN"T growing like +2, +2, and so on. it's growing exponentially. if I had 1 bacteria and said it doubled every hour, it would turn into more than a billion in less than 30 hours.

I hope you meant "holy books." There is a difference.

Although there are simularities between the different holy books, there are major differences as well.

Look, I see where this is going, and I don't think I want to be involved in this conversation as well. So, back on topic:

I chose both, because I believe in intelligent design creationism. Intelligent design creationism means that God created us so that we could evolve if we needed to.

kiwi kult doctrine?.. ......... .
That makes me want to make a new siggy! be back on soon!


Edit: i spent all that time pixeling out the letters... And the letterless picture was already at the website... -_-.

This is a very complicated topic!!! I now know that starcraft junkies know more then oi thought!!! I think im just gonna let this topic flow....

Wow, I have quite a few things to comment on. Firstly, the Allah, the Islamic god, IS the same god as worshipped by Christians and Jews, he just goes under a different name. Same god, different names in all three religions. Allah, Yahweh, and Jehova. The holy texts for these three religions are remarkably similar, and in fact identical at some points. The Torah is nothing more than the Old Testament. The Koran, as well, is almost identical throughout the Old Testament, with a few small differences, and doesn't really branch off into new areas until it reaches the point where the Old Testament ends. The only real difference of these religions is how they view Jesus. Christians believe him to be the son of God, Muslims respect him as a prophet, but consider Mohammed to be the son of God, and Jews think Jesus was not a prophet, nor Mohammed. Those are the only differences. Don't believe me? Go read all three books, and you'll see.

As for your statement about how all the people in the world could fit in Texas and the population density would only be the same as in NYC, that sounds like a stupid remark, if you ask me. Yes, that statement is, more or less, true. That statement also has absolutely no relavent bearing on any issue. Are you aware that the global population has doubled over the last 30 years? Which means you can expect it to increase even more rapidly, in even less time. Current projections show the population as being roughly 6,383,158,503. I don't know about you, but I think that's a lot of people. Now, yes, if you crammed them all into Texas, which is roughly 261,914 sq. miles in size, you would get a population density close to that of NYC. Have you ever been to NYC? It's crowded as hell. To say that all the people in the world, when placed in an area as massively huge as Texas, would be just as crowded, is a scary thought. Currently, NYC has about 26,517 people living in each sq. mile. Holy that's a lot of people! Yet somehow, you think this is an insignificant amount of crowding. Scientists are expecting the population to double again by 2050. That'll be over 12 billion people, all living on this tiny little planet. I'd say that's a grave concern.

Anyways, I seem to have stumbled off the topic, but I believe I've made my point above dealing with the differences between the three Semitic religions. And seeing as how I base my facts from experience, having actually read the Koran, Torah, and Holy Bible, as well as other religious texts, as opposed to things taught to me by parents/pastors/internet sites, I feel pretty confident in my assertion. Now, enough of this argument for now, because I'm gonna go play some SC now . Later!

EDITED AND REVISED (Before anyone ever saw it!)

Everyone seems to have missed what I meant by saying their are other religions then Christianity. In your close mindedness you have missed the hundreds of other religions that aren't all based off of the same ideas. You are still completely blind in my eyes, as creationism doesn't require a religion to back it up.

As for creationism having little or no proof, here's how I see it. There's only two posibilities, Creationism and Evolution. If Evolution can't occur, then Creationism is the only other option. Believing in a God that created the Universe doesn't require one to worship him every day or believe in all these crazy prophets. I think they were all schizophrenic people with major charisma who managed to sway a few people, who thus swayed more and so on.

Also, something incredibly important, Muslims DO NOT view Mohammed as the son of God. The religion is all about Allah being the one God, and no other... And Allah is in fact the same God as in the other two of this type of religion. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are all very similar, and although they are the major religions of the world, this does not make them the only religions.

For evolution, I believed evolution. Then I read a book trying to PROVE evolution is correct, and I started to disbelieve it's possibilty. Although organic molecules can be formed by chance, there is still NO EVIDENCE that these organic molecules can ever come together and form a cell. If that had actually been proven, the entire foundations of our world view would be destroyed. The biggest flaw in evolution would be torn asunder, and it would be all but proven. All major religions would be wiped out and a time of reckoning would be upon us at the idea that scientists can go into a lab and create life from inorganic material. The reprecussions of such a discovery would be enormous... I can't believe you said something so stupid.

keep working on that nice thing Salacious -_-........

This is reminding me of house of the dead.... A mad scientist invented artificial zombies to destroy humans because he thought they were too much of a hazard to the world.. -_-

so salacious, are you for creation or evolution? If you're for creation, then you must believe earth is 7000 years old because thats about the time god created this universe and all the crap. or you can believe in evolution

cheese he proved what you said wrong, he might be mean but he still makes sense XD.

what did he prove wrong?

everything you said pretty much
about how their religion is about the earth being 7000 years old and etc.

religion DOES NOT say earth is 7000 years old, creation does

-_-.... gg

i thought sala said something about last post somewhere?

There are lots of evidences that the evolution exists but, what about the cell? I just think that the cell might be created by an intelligent designer, and not by evolution, but I'm sure that all other animals were created with evolution.

SCREW YOU I'M VERY NICE... joking. Uh.. now is not the time for me to be nice -_-

CheeZe... let me get this straight. You think that believing in God automatically means the Earth and the Universe must be 7000 years old? That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Only the Bible-based faiths believe that, there are other numerous religions that do not, and you don't even have to believe in a religion at all to believe in God. Believing in God DOES NOT mean you think everything is 7000 years old. Heck, I could easily say God created everything 15 minutes ago, and planted all these memories in our heads to make us think we've been alive for a while. I don't know where you come up with this stuff..

That link is hillarious! Naked lego men having ***.
By the way, everytime is time for you to be nice! Tsk tsk tsk Sala.

Hm... it looks an awful lot like believing in a god IS religion in itself.





Hm... it would also seem that creationism is backed COMPLETELY by religion, seeing as how it is directly based off of the Book of Genesis, which is coincidentally only found in the Holy Bible, Koran, and Torah.

You have just been owned, courtesy of linux_junkie. Booyah.

What link?

its somewhere in this topic, Anyways, i believe in evolution, period.

Sala I said:



you can believe what ever religion you want, but believing the universe or earth is 7000 years old is ridicules.