Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-07-29 at 12:51:41
I like some of the stuff centored -.-
Opera shows a grey box..
Doesn't really make a difference though =\
Opera shows a grey box..
Doesn't really make a difference though =\Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-07-29 at 12:56:24
Here contacts in FF, left aligned, right by the contact icons.
IE, why the heck they hang in the middle of the page? But you will probably say, "hey I like this way better" anyway, so w/e. It's just lame that it's centered everywhere.
IE, why the heck they hang in the middle of the page? But you will probably say, "hey I like this way better" anyway, so w/e. It's just lame that it's centered everywhere.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-07-29 at 13:10:24
I can't agree with you more on the subject of centeredness, DEAD.
I like Fx because of the bookmark toolbar too.
See?
I like Fx because of the bookmark toolbar too.
See?Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-07-29 at 13:13:48
Yea, I love the bookmark toolbar.
Wait, you mean you actually like that everything is centered?
Wait, you mean you actually like that everything is centered?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2006-07-29 at 13:39:34
Well I still use IE as it is standard but slow at loading pages and bleh the others.
Another old internet browser was netscape but its sucks.
Another old internet browser was netscape but its sucks.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-07-29 at 14:07:36
QUOTE(Mini_Booze_2708 @ Jul 29 2006, 09:56 AM)
Here contacts in FF, left aligned, right by the contact icons.
IE, why the heck they hang in the middle of the page? But you will probably say, "hey I like this way better" anyway, so w/e. It's just lame that it's centered everywhere.
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IE, why the heck they hang in the middle of the page? But you will probably say, "hey I like this way better" anyway, so w/e. It's just lame that it's centered everywhere.
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Yeah, all the centering is ugly beyond belief.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-07-29 at 17:37:47
I don't exaclty like that centering, especially when it's a list like that... but, the centering of your posts in the "Show users posts" and stuff like that, I don't mind..
And again... whens the last time you actually looked at that stuff =\
And again... whens the last time you actually looked at that stuff =\
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2006-07-29 at 23:09:34
QUOTE(Mini_Booze_2708 @ Jul 29 2006, 06:37 AM)
No offence Farty but that is one of the most stupid things I have heard in a while.
WTF were you thinking about when you wrote that line? Thats all I can say...
Firefox does. I will have something set to a nice size and then open it in FireFox and its like 3 times wider and the borders aren't the 1px I told them to be.WTF were you thinking about when you wrote that line? Thats all I can say...
QUOTE(Mini_Booze_2708 @ Jul 29 2006, 06:37 AM)
Seems the same to me. I don't see many websites that use border shadowing though.
The shadowing is the 3D look. FireFox uses a really light color, and a really dark color. That looks very crappy. IE uses closer colors so it actually looks like the color I put in the CSS.QUOTE(Mini_Booze_2708 @ Jul 29 2006, 06:37 AM)
CSS...
CSS...
Uhh, no. I do not use CSS for my cell spacing, and as far as I know IE and FireFox both use "border:color style width;".CSS...
QUOTE(Mini_Booze_2708 @ Jul 29 2006, 06:37 AM)
Bad host lol, and if they doesnt show in FF they doesn't show in IE either because they are not there. Except if you block images with FF, then of course you don't see them. 
IE shows the images. Fx shows some wierd ugly thing.
I prefer seeing images (IE).QUOTE(Mini_Booze_2708 @ Jul 29 2006, 06:37 AM)
What is that supposed to mean?
FireFox makes the buttons 3 times wider, which in my opinion looks kinda bad.QUOTE(Mini_Booze_2708 @ Jul 29 2006, 06:37 AM)
Everything is like centered. Page has blank white space in the corner. In the space where ads were placed IE shows ugly error, FF shows nothing. But the most annoying thing is this centering. Everything is centered, like concats, sigs in profile, active member list, and everyhting. SO lame. 
The centering is a problem in SEN's CSS.QUOTE(Mini_Booze_2708 @ Jul 29 2006, 06:37 AM)
BTW, IE chrashed 1 time while I was browsing SEN.
BTW, Fx crashed many times while I was browsing many sites. Did I mention FireFox takes 10 years to open, 10 years to find a page, 10 years to load the page, 10 years to display the page, then 10 years to respond to something I do? IE I just click and its done. (Unless I have a slow internet connection, but that is normal.)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-07-30 at 06:56:04
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Firefox does. I will have something set to a nice size and then open it in FireFox and its like 3 times wider and the borders aren't the 1px I told them to be.
Bullcrap. It doesnt make anything wider.
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The shadowing is the 3D look. FireFox uses a really light color, and a really dark color. That looks very crappy. IE uses closer colors so it actually looks like the color I put in the CSS.
Yes, it does look different. But to be honest, I've seen this function only in 1 place, my forum lol.QUOTE
Uhh, no. I do not use CSS for my cell spacing, and as far as I know IE and FireFox both use "border:color style width;".
Then use it, IE and FF defaults just differ, if you dont edit it, it uses default. duh
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IE shows the images. Fx shows some wierd ugly thing.
I prefer seeing images (IE).
I prefer seeing images (IE).Bullcrap, it shows all available images. It doesnt show images if you have blocked them or is javascript or any other code doesnt show images for certain browsers. But thats on purpose.
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FireFox makes the buttons 3 times wider, which in my opinion looks kinda bad.
Bullcrap, browsers doesnt resize images.
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The centering is a problem in SEN's CSS.
Agree, same as spacing, defaults differ.
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BTW, Fx crashed many times while I was browsing many sites.
Yes, FF and IE both crash. I believe that computer setting depending. Because IE crashes almost every time I run it, but it doesn't crash for other ppl. FF has never crashed for me since I changed my HD.
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Did I mention FireFox takes 10 years to open, 10 years to find a page, 10 years to load the page, 10 years to display the page, then 10 years to respond to something I do? IE I just click and its done. (Unless I have a slow internet connection, but that is normal.)
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Bullcrap, it loads faster on FF than IE, for me. A LOT faster.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-07-30 at 10:07:37
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Weasel on 2006-07-30 at 11:23:29
Safari ftw? >.>
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-07-30 at 13:36:45
QUOTE(Deathawk @ Jul 30 2006, 05:07 PM)
http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#winspeed
Again, Firefox is slower than IE...
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His computer is even worse than my is. Firefox loads faster on my computer than IE, end of story lol. And looking at the charts, FF actually should load webpages faster than IE. Look at the "multiple images" part as well as "Script speed". Mostly if not always, images & scripts are the bigest pieces of webpage. For example SEN index:
- Html - 136Kb
- Javascript - 47.5Kb
- images - 175Kb
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-07-30 at 15:50:02
IE. I'm just not used to Fx.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-07-30 at 16:18:58
QUOTE(DEAD @ Jul 30 2006, 01:36 PM)
His computer is even worse than my is. Firefox loads faster on my computer than IE, end of story lol. And looking at the charts, FF actually should load webpages faster than IE. Look at the "multiple images" part as well as "Script speed". Mostly if not always, images & scripts are the bigest pieces of webpage. For example SEN index:
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- Html - 136Kb
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Then there is something wrong. Hey, if Firefox works better for you, go ahead and use it. I prefer Firefox over IE, but I'd rather use Opera..
The computer did not change though, and all system requirements were met, so it does not matter.
Fx is slower than IE in the "multiple images" timing..
I'm not sure if Fx's slow cold startup, and everything else..(But mainly the cold startup.) outweighs it's "script speed" =\
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-07-30 at 17:19:15
I have no idea what "cold startup" is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-07-30 at 18:30:15
Cold start
This is the time it takes to do a cold load. I log out then in, and then once all background processes have completed, I run the browser as the first program. I use the default settings for the browser, without preloading or quicklaunch tools (unless the browser installs itself this way, as with Internet Explorer on Windows). The browsers are all set to show a single page on startup, and this page is a locally stored basic HTML page.
Warm start
After completing a cold start, I close the browser, then time how long it takes to start again. I restart it again another two times, and take an average.
This is the time it takes to do a cold load. I log out then in, and then once all background processes have completed, I run the browser as the first program. I use the default settings for the browser, without preloading or quicklaunch tools (unless the browser installs itself this way, as with Internet Explorer on Windows). The browsers are all set to show a single page on startup, and this page is a locally stored basic HTML page.
Warm start
After completing a cold start, I close the browser, then time how long it takes to start again. I restart it again another two times, and take an average.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-07-31 at 05:00:14
Then I must say the charts lie. Firefox doesn't cold start 17 seconds rolf.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-07-31 at 11:20:50
Remember, this is a different computer.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-07-31 at 11:39:51
Then whats the point of the chart. For some guy with a prehistoric computer it may as well run slower. But it runs faster on a normal computer. Eh whatever.
It's probably hell of a different on different computers.
It's probably hell of a different on different computers.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-07-31 at 11:43:06
QUOTE(DEAD @ Jul 31 2006, 06:39 PM)
It's probably hell of a different on different computers.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2006-08-04 at 14:13:20
QUOTE(DEAD @ Jul 30 2006, 04:55 AM)
Bullcrap. It doesnt make anything wider.
Yes, it does look different. But to be honest, I've seen this function only in 1 place, my forum lol.
Then use it, IE and FF defaults just differ, if you dont edit it, it uses default. duh
Bullcrap, it shows all available images. It doesnt show images if you have blocked them or is javascript or any other code doesnt show images for certain browsers. But thats on purpose.
Bullcrap, browsers doesnt resize images.
Agree, same as spacing, defaults differ.
Yes, FF and IE both crash. I believe that computer setting depending. Because IE crashes almost every time I run it, but it doesn't crash for other ppl. FF has never crashed for me since I changed my HD.
Bullcrap, it loads faster on FF than IE, for me. A LOT faster.
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Yes, it does look different. But to be honest, I've seen this function only in 1 place, my forum lol.Then use it, IE and FF defaults just differ, if you dont edit it, it uses default. duh
Bullcrap, it shows all available images. It doesnt show images if you have blocked them or is javascript or any other code doesnt show images for certain browsers. But thats on purpose.
Bullcrap, browsers doesnt resize images.
Agree, same as spacing, defaults differ.
Yes, FF and IE both crash. I believe that computer setting depending. Because IE crashes almost every time I run it, but it doesn't crash for other ppl. FF has never crashed for me since I changed my HD.
Bullcrap, it loads faster on FF than IE, for me. A LOT faster.
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Uh, none of what I said is "bullcrap". You just love your browser too much to accept it I guess. Either that Fx has no real set defaults making it vary a lot for each person; which is a bad thing.
What the hell are you talking about Fx is faster? I have made entire posts with IE and FireFox hadn't even started loading the page.
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Then use it, IE and FF defaults just differ, if you dont edit it, it uses default. duh
What the hell is that supposed to mean? Yeah, I'm setting border without using the CSS. It is just magically there.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-08-06 at 05:42:02
Well anyway farty, sorry for being too dedicated to defend FF. About the "bullcrap", I said that because it doesn't do these things for me, maybe we have different configuretion or something. Who knows.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-08-06 at 11:44:21
Fx.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-08-08 at 09:56:32
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2006-08-08 at 11:57:42
Did I mention that view source in FireFox gives you a changed code? Viewing source in Internet Explorer just opens the file in notepad.