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Its true that respect isn't a number, but I think this beats the hell out of the Karma system we had before - which is why DTBK posted this equation in the first place.

And in some sick and sadistic way, I really enjoy doing the math for this (which is why I was so eager to calculate my own score, and then Cloud's later when he asked DTBK to do it). Its easy math, but dare I call it... fun?

Weird.
I don't think we are looking to calculate "respect" here. Just how good/bad of a member you are.

Were you around when Yoshi implemented the "Karma" idea? Karma (from the looks of it) is being transferred to v5, and it was basically a numerical rating of how good of a member you were and how respected you were. You'd make a post and if people liked it, they'd give you a better rating. If they didn't, they would give you a bad rating.

The problem is that it was severely abused. I think by the end of the first day, Bolt_Head had something like 200 karma without doing much.

I see DTBK's system as being somewhat flawed, but nonetheless automatic. It doesn't take into account grudges, sour grapes, sucking up, and bribery - which is why I support it over the karma system.

The karma thing is meant to be something more fun... and is based upon post quality, not member quality.

There will be no regulars / elites... it defeats the point of the equation in the first place.
There will be no cummantive posts... and like Tux said, you can't judge a post quality by a given length (and in a given forum). It's existance in v5 would just be the same existance if I put your equation into v5: something fun to look at (and even so, I planned on getting rid of c. posts).
There will be no admin rating... unless you factor in the amount of logs a person generated (as there will be no warns). But doing that is also flawed.
There will be no member rating from 1 to 10.

Oh okay, so elites/regulars really aren't being transferred? Damn, I have great timing. I just noticed that I'm like 20 posts away from becoming an elite after posting for 2 years. Good stuff.

Hurry up and make 20 posts

I'm working on it! Then, I can celebrate being an Elite for a few weeks before we switch. Sounds like an excellent plan!

IP, please give current elites some special recognition in their profiles or something in v5. After all, we did work to get this far, and it's kind of sad to know that everything will have been pointless in the end.

did work? That's exactly the issue. You did work to get to elite status. It was meant to just happen naturally with your activity. You aren't supposed to try to get elite or regular status.

Doesn't mean you didn't care about your status. You may not have worked actively to achieve your status, but once you achieve elite, which is 5 times better then regular, everyone feels proud that they have been on a 5k+ member community for 2+ years and have finally reached the highest rank they could without becoming a staff member.

It's not hard to implement, there's only about 5 elites, so you can add them manually.


If I did everything correctly, I got 888.36, which I'm sure is impossible if Zeratul got ~700 and a large percentage of other people got 1000+. Your formula is messed up, DTBK.

In the second part, you write (c-6)^2. That must be a flaw because if your post per day is less then 6, then your value for that starts increasing. I have 2 posts per day. 2-6 = 4, 4^2 = 16. If I had 3 posts per day, (3-6)^2 would be 9. So having a tiny post per day would work more to your advantage, unless you have a 12+ post per day.

Next, when you write (d-5)/2 * (3e/4), what am I to assume? Badly placed ('s, this is probably where I went wrong. You find d-5 first, then divide by 2, then multiply all that by 3e/4? Then you add that to b/10 and 1.4a?

I find it really gay wrong that your stay at SEN counts so much more then your posts per day. I understand where you're coming from, that if you're older more people will know you, but if this is true then an idiot who registered at day 1 and posted 5 times could have a significantly larger reputation then someone who registered not too long ago but was a very active poster.

The member rating seems to be very miniscule, so miniscule that you should either increase its value or remove it altogether. Just extra coding. And you should definitely remove that amount of people who rated you. It would be a popularity contest, everyone would rate people they like but not rate people they don't like.

[(-1/20) (c-6)^2 + 2]


0 ppd = 36... -36/20 + 2 = 4/20
2 ppd = 16... -16/20 + 2 = 1 4/20
3 ppd = 9... -9/20 + 2 = 1 11/20
6 ppd = 2
9 pdd = 1 11/20
12 ppd = 36... = 4/20

I believe the aim is to have 6 ppd... Unless I figured that out wrong.

So it is bugged. Not just me. 0 ppd = 12 ppd, and I don't think there's supposed to be an aim if every member differs from every other member.

Actually based on my calculation, you got 1341.

A = 490 (basically a year and 4 months)
B = 954 (total posts based on profile)
C = 2 (total ppd based on profile)
D = 9
E = 100
F = 1.2

I organized an Excel spreadsheet to calculate it all for me automatically by just entering values for a, b, c, d, e, and f. And 1341 is what came up.

I used 7 for D, 20 for E, 1 for F. Why would I be an exemplary member, why would 100 people rate me, and why would the ratings be 9? Oh, I miscalculated a bit on the days on SEN, though. I used 450. You're being a bit optimistic on my ratings.

It works like this. If you have a low posts per day, you don't post much. It doesn't add a lot to your score. If you have an insanely high posts per day, you're probably a spammer. This will lower your score.

No, high posts per day doesn't lower your score. Low raises score, super-high raises score, middle-high lowers score. That's how this apparently works.

1.5 ppd (approx) will raise your score slightly...
6 ppd will multiple it by 2...
after 10.5 (approx) it will start going down...

(I wish I had my ti-83 calc...)

Any number squared is positive. (+ * + = +; - * - = +.) If you have 6 posts per day, you subtract six and get 0. 0 + 2 = 2. This is the maximum. Anything over or under 6, since it is positive and being multiplied by a negative and is not zero, will end up being some negative number plus 2. Any negative number + 2 is less than 2.

Anything that gives you a factor of 1.xxx will affect you positively. And I think it would be a lot better if the member posts 1 high quality post per day rather than someone who posts 2 crappy posts per day.

Any system you devise will be flawed... That's one reason why there just won't be any system.

Actually, I had elite in around 13 months.

IP, I really don't see what the flaw in having a little rating system like this. Even having only member ratings wouldn't be too flawed, as it gives what it promises, maybe not make giving them unlimited?

Every member recieves 10 karma points once they reach enough posts to change their member title. (For double accounts.) You cannot give Karma points if you have 0, and you cannot give more than 3 to a person in one day. Whenever you give one, you lose one. You can buy 1 extra per day for 300 minerals.

On vBulletin, you can add or remove reputation from other members and the value of your vote is determined by your reputation. The respected members had good reputations, the hated members had bad reputations. Simple, eh?

Why would people buy karma just to give it away?

Pie: That was kinda like the system moose devised... except I think elites have more weight than normal members...

They wouldn't That's why the system wouldn't be abused. Also, maybe you could get 5 more for every 300 posts?