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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2004-08-24 at 11:19:42
Didnt single celled organisms just use that "devide, expand, devide, expand..." thing to reproduse? Eather way, were not bacteria, were people. Sexual prefenence if just that, a prefenence, just like people like to play StarCraft.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-08-24 at 17:16:41
This whole Bacteria thing is making me horny.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2004-08-24 at 17:21:23
The problems it will create in society... Right now the gay rights thing is a big controversial subject here. If there were no unheterosexuals we wouldn't have that problem. And the elections coming up in November, the Presidential canidates are trying to get a response out of the unheterosexuals. That's just more money that the President has to spend on his campaign and more garbage I have to listen to. There is also the unheterosexuals that try to show their crap in the public and get the public invoved. i.e. parades & conventions... That's money the tax payers gotta pay to the government have to use to keep up on their stupid little activities and crap.

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All of you have forgotten the real meaning of life. That is to reproduce.


Two males or females cannot reproduce. If they cannot meet the standards with the meaning of life, they should go away.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by exo6yte on 2004-08-24 at 17:25:13
'The meaning of life is to find the meaning in life'

I forget who said that, but it probably applies to this discussion. Years ago, life struggled to even be made. Now that it has firmly planted itself, people have been trying to fill the void in their lives created by the burden of intelligence. Some do it by reproducing, others do it by being filthy sadists, others strive for change, and blah blah blah I hate it when I get in philosopher mode.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2004-08-24 at 19:11:05
"The purpose of life is to reproduce"
Hello God, would you please tell me what's so god damned important about reproducing?

And besides that, humans are already way too numerous.
To try to oppose not having a kid and force all people to become straight and parents would be seriously censored.gif ed up, along with speeding up the process of overpopulating Earth and filling it with even more needless humans.

What need we for more humans? It's considered NORMAL, IN NO WAY BAD behaviour to just wlak upto things and kill them, acting like they were going to pull out some death ray and kill you, instead(Spiders, bees...).
We don't need more humans.

From that viewpoint, not reproducing has its advantages.
Don't act like you know the meaning of life and censored.gif , not only because you haven't yet thought of anyway in which reproducing is important, but also because other people have different views of the meaning of life.
I hate when people act like religious zealots, claiming that something is true, for no reason, and using that to try todefend his opinion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2004-08-24 at 20:20:29
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And besides that, humans are already way too numerous.
To try to oppose not having a kid and force all people to become straight and parents would be seriously   censored.gif ed up, along with speeding up the process of overpopulating Earth and filling it with even more needless humans.


I'm glad to see that you support gays enough to be one. Congradulations.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mobomojo on 2004-08-24 at 21:35:37
QUOTE(ShadowBrood @ Aug 23 2004, 09:22 PM)
most girls i know think gayness is erotic similar to the way many males think lesbianism (is that even a word? haha) is erotic.  im my opinion being gay is gross but i got no problem with lesbians. yeah kinda sound like a sexist dont i? tongue.gif
pokey.gif   <--- that guys gay

No, its called a double standard, and I bet theres a bunch of other guys who share that sort of 'yay on hot lesbians, nay on gay guys' view. In a way, its like being a hypocrite.

And why the hell was that last line even needed?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2004-08-24 at 22:34:28
That bacteria thing, bacteria and other single cell organisms divide themselves. As life evolved though sexual reproduction is a much better way of ensuring the next generation has an advantage. Like so its neccisary for a male and female to complete the reprodustion cycle, two members of the same sex cannot reproduce and thus is unnatural.

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No, its called a double standard, and I bet theres a bunch of other guys who share that sort of 'yay on hot lesbians, nay on gay guys' view. In a way, its like being a hypocrite.


Its one of those double standards that people hardly care about. In a male dominated society two gay men is just out of the question, two women on the other hand is accepted on a much much more majority of the populace. Thats just not by men either, female homosexuality is accepted more by other females than two guys.


To be frank if two guys raised a child that child is more likely to be screwed up than if two women raised that child. Ever since the begining of humans women have been the nurteres ect ect., so two women raising a child is actually Imo perfectly fine. To say its wrong would be like saying your aunt and your grandma raising you alone is wrong.

Two guys on the other hand, just plain no. A guy knows nothing about 'nurturing' a child. So I dont think 2 of them should be allowed to raise a child. Yes partly my opinion is based on the fact that im a guy, but no it has nothing do with how I feel about lesbians its just that two women can raise a child and two men cant. period.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ent on 2004-08-25 at 02:24:03
QUOTE(`BiG~kAhOoNa` @ Aug 24 2004, 11:21 PM)
The problems it will create in society...  Right now the gay rights thing is a big controversial subject here.  If there were no unheterosexuals we wouldn't have that problem.  And the elections coming up in November, the Presidential canidates are trying to get a response out of the unheterosexuals.  That's just more money that the President has to spend on his campaign and more garbage I have to listen to.  There is also the unheterosexuals that try to show their crap in the public and get the public invoved.  i.e. parades & conventions...  That's money the tax payers gotta pay to the government have to use to keep up on their stupid little activities and crap.

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All of you have forgotten the real meaning of life. That is to reproduce.


Two males or females cannot reproduce. If they cannot meet the standards with the meaning of life, they should go away.

the problem you say is not because of homosexuals, those problems you mention in society isnt the homosexuals fault but it is the fault of heterosexual people like you that wont allow people to live their lifes as they wish.

You are just being ignorant and blaming the gay people for the problems that they didnt create. Blaming the homosexuals like you do is like blaming the jews for the holocaust.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mobomojo on 2004-08-25 at 03:08:45
Theres not definite meaning to life, but IMO, it isnt to reproduce, but to survive. If its to reproduce, youd see a lot more people knocking each other up and such. And its bad enough that this planet is becoming overpopulated, and with this rubbish generation too.

Anyway, two males or two females may not be able to reproduce, but there are a lot more straight couples that can cover their role, seeing as how the entire world ISNT full of homosexuals.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Templaren on 2004-08-25 at 07:39:38
I dont think they shud get allowed to adopt.. cuz the children will get a bad life
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2004-08-25 at 08:32:02
QUOTE(Helios @ Aug 24 2004, 09:34 PM)
That bacteria thing, bacteria and other single cell organisms divide themselves. As life evolved though sexual reproduction is a much better way of ensuring the next generation has an advantage. Like so its neccisary for a male and female to complete the reprodustion cycle, two members of the same sex cannot reproduce and thus is unnatural.

Some bacterias does copulate, that's true. But they don't have diferent sex. Is that being gay? Do bacterias are gay?
Some scientifics think that the bacterias are the most perfect organism on the earth.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Templaren on 2004-08-25 at 08:38:07
sickness isnt it
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2004-08-25 at 11:59:19
I love that this debate spans all the way from gay marriage and adoption, to homo erotic bacteria.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2004-08-25 at 12:19:07
Clokr, bacteria are neither male or female. They are just as they are.

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Theres not definite meaning to life, but IMO, it isnt to reproduce, but to survive. If its to reproduce, youd see a lot more people knocking each other up and such. And its bad enough that this planet is becoming overpopulated, and with this rubbish generation too.


To survive is to reproduce, if you dont reproduce then the species cannot survive. A lot more people ? One child is on avergae born every second and a half. Imo that sounds like plenty of people are getting knocked up. This planet isnt getting overpopulated, its only the same regoins getting more people, there is still a lot of land out there that we just arent using.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2004-08-25 at 12:42:20
To say that the point of life is to reproduce is just censored.gif ing ignorant. What about love? What about life? Is that all you think about, reproducing? People censored.gif because they like to censored.gif , not to reproduce(in most cases anyway), thats why we have birth control. Like i said before, you play starcraft because thats some thing you like to do, when you think about it, ultimately, theres no real point to anything, people just do things because its something they like, its their preference. Were people, not machines. By your logic all everyone should do is eat, sleep, censored.gif , and censored.gif -- what a wonderful life.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mobomojo on 2004-08-25 at 13:44:09
QUOTE(Templaren @ Aug 25 2004, 03:39 AM)
I dont think they shud get allowed to adopt.. cuz the children will get a bad life

Goddamn.... open up your mind!!

Who are you to judge what kind of life they will have? Its quite obvious that you have a bias against gays, but at least throw some of your support into the argument.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2004-08-25 at 14:20:36
QUOTE(Helios @ Aug 25 2004, 11:19 AM)
Clokr, bacteria are neither male or female. They are just as they are.

I knew that, but that was for show him that not only humans have "same sex" marriages tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dark Templar on 2004-08-25 at 14:36:48
QUOTE(mobomojo @ Aug 25 2004, 11:44 AM)
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Goddamn.... open up your mind!!

Who are you to judge what kind of life they will have? Its quite obvious that you have a bias against gays, but at least throw some of your support into the argument.

Yes, thats how I feel, some people are just saying it like this: "gay ppl r st00pid." If thats the way you feel then explain more, I don't think I've read one well-thought argument against gay marriage.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2004-08-25 at 16:32:01
QUOTE(Chill @ Aug 25 2004, 11:42 AM)
To say that the point of life is to reproduce is just  censored.gif ing ignorant.  What about love?  What about life?  Is that all you think about, reproducing?  People  censored.gif  because they like to  censored.gif , not to reproduce(in most cases anyway), thats why we have birth control.  Like i said before, you play starcraft because thats some thing you like to do, when you think about it, ultimately, theres no real point to anything, people just do things because its something they like, its their preference.  Were people, not machines. By your logic all everyone should do is eat, sleep,  censored.gif , and  censored.gif -- what a wonderful life.

hmm lets see, not everything we do is because "we want to" we dont censored.gif because we want to. We censored.gif because we eat, and we eat because we have to or die. And there are a whole lot of things in life we do not because we want to but because we have to.

You know what I could equally say the point of life having anything to do with love or life is just as stupid. People make their own "meaning of life" no matter how stupid it may seem to you.

Lets see here even though I never said the meaning of life is to reproduce but here goes. In a technical sense yes the meaning of life is to reproduce. All of our very basic insticts are still there, to eat, to continue the species, to make sure the next generation makes it to the stage where they too can reproduce. Like sex sure nowdays people do it just because but If there was no need to continue the species there would be no attraction to the opposite sex. In other words life would cease to exist in a single generation. ... Yes by this point I am just rambling censored.gif .

We all know (or at least should) that life is more than just our basic instincts, we make life as we go along. Happines is not a gurantee in this otherwise pointless existence but we find happiness in the things we do. Obstructing gays from being able to get married does not mean they will be forced to not have happiness.

When it comes down to it how much does any marige really mean ? Not very much at all. In a sense I find it a bit annoying that there is all of a suden a need that gays want to be married. They have never been aloowed to be married before why should it change. There are some things that it really doesnt matter if they change ot not.


I keep hearing something along the lines of gays not having any impact on your life. I'd like to say thats complete bull, every group in america affects how things are done in society no matter how small or big. Seeing as Im a part of this society Im not going to just accept something especially since it affects me.

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I don't think I've read one well-thought argument against gay marriage


I guess ever single post of mine went ignored. closedeyes.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-08-25 at 16:36:52
Well i no what they should do...let the gays be with each other..and let them die together..muhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha



like the pink text.....if u dont never put dark green for ur color tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2004-08-25 at 16:40:47
QUOTE(Helios @ Aug 25 2004, 04:32 PM)
They have never been aloowed to be married before why should it change. There are some things that it really doesnt matter if they change ot not.

Actually, under federal law it's not illegal for homosexuals to get married, only state law. That's why Bush is trying to push a federal ban. So, yes, why should they change it?

And to all the people who say that being gay isn't natural, neither is using a computer. Go live in geologically-formed cave and beat your hair with rocks to get it clean. Oh, and nothing you buy at a grocery store should be eaten. How do you get around without shoes, a bike, or a car? Take off all your clothes and take showers under an ice-cold waterfall. Oh, and forget medical care. All those drugs and all that plastic aren't natural either.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2004-08-25 at 16:47:20
QUOTE(mobomojo @ Aug 25 2004, 12:44 PM)
QUOTE(Templaren @ Aug 25 2004, 03:39 AM)
I dont think they shud get allowed to adopt.. cuz the children will get a bad life

Goddamn.... open up your mind!!

Who are you to judge what kind of life they will have? Its quite obvious that you have a bias against gays, but at least throw some of your support into the argument.



... Either you love em or you hate em. If anyone says, "I'm undecided about my feelings towards gays," I don't know what I'd think about them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2004-08-25 at 16:55:01
well no adoption but the same sex marriages should be allowed i just watched a show about this.... id hate to see children grow up with same sex parents..... thad be weird O.o
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2004-08-25 at 18:45:19
I'd hate to see a kid grow up with a white parent and a black parent, too. That'd be weird. [/sarcasm]
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