Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-03-13 at 23:16:25
off topic: sorry, but is that avatar from diablo rhiom? ive never played, is it fun?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rhiom on 2005-03-14 at 00:22:03
QUOTE(Yenku @ Mar 13 2005, 08:16 PM)
off topic: sorry, but is that avatar from diablo rhiom? ive never played, is it fun?
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yes it is from diablo 2, it's a great game. another reason why blizzard rocks.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MiMiC on 2005-03-14 at 00:27:22
QUOTE(Rhiom @ Mar 13 2005, 09:15 PM)
oh, ok, i thought it did, but never tested so i am not exactly sure 
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I'm sorry to burst all of your little bubbles BUT
-P12 can have Units, PM legendary)mimic And I'll host a game with MC'able units/heros + starting creep + Nuke dots and other fun things
-You can Indefinately Rig maps for Protoss but why bother? I'd prefer you look into adding a 3-way addition to the game making it fun for all. You should check my post on 3-Way advantage in melee maps to learn a little more about it!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-03-14 at 11:52:41
The question is, Mimic, are you placing those MCable units on UMS. Because I am pretty damn sure you cannot do it on melee. Some one call in Legacy, he knows everything.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rhiom on 2005-03-15 at 20:45:28
QUOTE(Yenku @ Mar 14 2005, 08:52 AM)
The question is, Mimic, are you placing those MCable units on UMS. Because I am pretty damn sure you cannot do it on melee. Some one call in Legacy, he knows everything.
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yes call in Legacy, and there still seems to be no definte anwser to my original question of whether or not p12 units remain post 1.12
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-03-16 at 10:15:18
No i tested this like 40 times over.
I will say this ONE last time.
The only player 12 units that can be placed on melee maps and show up in-game are MINERALS, VESPENE, and CRITTERS.
ANYTHING else placed for p12 DOES NOT SHOW UP IN A MELEE GAME.
ADDITION:
ALSO: Sprites can also be placed, but they are not units.
I will say this ONE last time.
The only player 12 units that can be placed on melee maps and show up in-game are MINERALS, VESPENE, and CRITTERS.
ANYTHING else placed for p12 DOES NOT SHOW UP IN A MELEE GAME.
ADDITION:
ALSO: Sprites can also be placed, but they are not units.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-03-16 at 11:57:05
I got it. Just use square tile terrain. Make it so that the only thing they can build around minerals is the nexus/refinery and then far away from that (out of creep range ) make some 2x2 boxes and about 3 or 4 4x3 boxes for gateways. That way for Toss to get buildings, it would be easy. But for zerg to, they would have to build another hatchery over in the other spot in wait for creep to let them build in another 4x3 spot. Terran would be forced to use 3x4 spots for depots, etc.
Imbalanced for protoss.
) make some 2x2 boxes and about 3 or 4 4x3 boxes for gateways. That way for Toss to get buildings, it would be easy. But for zerg to, they would have to build another hatchery over in the other spot in wait for creep to let them build in another 4x3 spot. Terran would be forced to use 3x4 spots for depots, etc.Imbalanced for protoss.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-03-21 at 16:34:56
Hey, that was not a bad idea at all Chu. I think if some1 could really take that out of proportion then it would be the best rig for protoss.
I dont know if anyone has any other ideas, but i do...
Like i said earlier, you could make a mineral only map, in which players can only get Lings, sunks/rines,bunks/cannons/zealots...
Protoss would own everyone.
I dont know if anyone has any other ideas, but i do...
Like i said earlier, you could make a mineral only map, in which players can only get Lings, sunks/rines,bunks/cannons/zealots...
Protoss would own everyone.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-03-22 at 00:44:42
Not sure if anyone's mentioned this, as I haven't bothered reading anymore then halfway through Page 2, but to rig Terrans, you can place all player Start Locations right next to each other.
Terrans have the most powerful Peon Rush: all peons do 5 damage, and their 50% high HP makes up for Protoss/Zerg regenerating Health/Shield by a very large margin. Also, the Terrans could lift off their CC to survive the enemy player's peons, while as Hatchery's and Nexi are immobile.
EDIT: Hehehe... true Fastest Possible
Terrans have the most powerful Peon Rush: all peons do 5 damage, and their 50% high HP makes up for Protoss/Zerg regenerating Health/Shield by a very large margin. Also, the Terrans could lift off their CC to survive the enemy player's peons, while as Hatchery's and Nexi are immobile.
EDIT: Hehehe... true Fastest Possible
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rhiom on 2005-03-22 at 17:56:19
Thats actually a really good idea chu, i think that is one of the most ingenuis things ive heard for general protoss rigging as of yet.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-03-22 at 19:25:34
QUOTE(Yenku @ Mar 16 2005, 10:15 AM)
No i tested this like 40 times over.
I will say this ONE last time.
The only player 12 units that can be placed on melee maps and show up in-game are MINERALS, VESPENE, and CRITTERS.
ANYTHING else placed for p12 DOES NOT SHOW UP IN A MELEE GAME.
ADDITION:
ALSO: Sprites can also be placed, but they are not units.
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I will say this ONE last time.
The only player 12 units that can be placed on melee maps and show up in-game are MINERALS, VESPENE, and CRITTERS.
ANYTHING else placed for p12 DOES NOT SHOW UP IN A MELEE GAME.
ADDITION:
ALSO: Sprites can also be placed, but they are not units.
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Apparently you didnt test enough.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rhiom on 2005-03-23 at 01:42:36
can we possibly get a second tester besides yenku, although i believe him it is apparent that other people still feel otherwise...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2005-03-23 at 09:15:15
He's right, only those units show in melee. Otherwise you could cheat in melee games -.-"
I kinda knew it too, but I wasnt sure, so I didnt say anything...
I kinda knew it too, but I wasnt sure, so I didnt say anything...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-03-23 at 18:36:38
QUOTE(Gradius @ Mar 22 2005, 07:25 PM)
Apparently you didnt test enough.
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hey gradius, one problem with those bc's they arent PLAYER 12!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-03-23 at 19:28:09
What do you mean theyre not p12.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-03-24 at 17:54:09
I said that yo ucant place p12 units, and those arent p12
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-03-24 at 21:21:42
Yenku, those are player 12 unit sprites.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-03-25 at 10:57:34
really? because when i opened the map up they werent player 12...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-03-25 at 10:58:46
Really? Because when I played the map in melee and opened and clicked on the units in an editor they were Player 12.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by in_a_biskit on 2005-03-30 at 08:09:42
I tested it.
P12 units will not appear.
P12 unit sprites will appear, and can be mind-controlled, etc, like normal units.
P12 pure sprites will appear, but are pointless in terms of gameplay because you can't do anything to them.
Unit sprites and units for other players, including extended players 9-11, will not appear.
P12 units will not appear.
P12 unit sprites will appear, and can be mind-controlled, etc, like normal units.
P12 pure sprites will appear, but are pointless in terms of gameplay because you can't do anything to them.
Unit sprites and units for other players, including extended players 9-11, will not appear.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rhiom on 2005-03-30 at 21:48:46
QUOTE(in_a_biskit @ Mar 30 2005, 05:09 AM)
I tested it.
P12 units will not appear.
P12 unit sprites will appear, and can be mind-controlled, etc, like normal units.
P12 pure sprites will appear, but are pointless in terms of gameplay because you can't do anything to them.
Unit sprites and units for other players, including extended players 9-11, will not appear.
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P12 units will not appear.
P12 unit sprites will appear, and can be mind-controlled, etc, like normal units.
P12 pure sprites will appear, but are pointless in terms of gameplay because you can't do anything to them.
Unit sprites and units for other players, including extended players 9-11, will not appear.
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wait. whats the difference between player 12 unit spirits, and play 12 units in gameplay terms?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-03-30 at 22:45:15
Player 12 sprite-untis will appear in melee.
Sprite-units: Can be pre-disabled, reads differently than units, allows for physical start locations, hp is default over the ums hp you set allowing for X hp over the max and the like, but only in UMS. These owned by p12 will appear in melee games.
Player 12 in the editor is black, player 12 in the game is that.. ugly bluelike colour. :/
Sprite-units: Can be pre-disabled, reads differently than units, allows for physical start locations, hp is default over the ums hp you set allowing for X hp over the max and the like, but only in UMS. These owned by p12 will appear in melee games.
Player 12 in the editor is black, player 12 in the game is that.. ugly bluelike colour. :/
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-03-31 at 13:34:13
QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Mar 25 2005, 10:58 AM)
Really? Because when I played the map in melee and opened and clicked on the units in an editor they were Player 12.
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Well even if that is so, you don't need to mock me. I was wrong sorry. Anywho I was mentioning units, not sprites, that can't be placed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-03-31 at 13:51:52
You said twice they weren't player 12. I think I earned the right to 'mock' you while proving you wrong. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-03-31 at 13:57:33
I realize I was wrong, don't rub it in dude, you dont 'earn' the right to mock someone, dont be an ass. Im sorry I was wrong.