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Let's hope some changes will be made...

It sounds as if all these Global Moderators should be assigned to certain forums. I myself think there are too many GM's. And again, I'm not saying to demote them, do as you wish.

Or you could just hire new moderators to moderate certain forums that arent exactly moderated by a certain staff member.

Global Moderators are useful when there is no admin present, which is a lot of the time. Having more sectional or forum-specific moderators are extremely useful. Then the GM can serve as a Judge or a place to appeal to in cases of disputes over warns. Rarely should admin then worry about cases or warns. They'll just need to look over and make sure all mods are active and assign new ones when necessary.

Basically turn SEN into a hierarchical system where there are police, then police of police, then police of police of police.

And most of you don't seem to get that there are worse members than me.



Why report something when you're dubbed the "worst member of SeN", and you report broken rules and nothing comes of it? The administration is biased. Take away the bias, and SeN would be much better.



But if you did that, then SeN would just suck complete ass. Seriously. Everyone would female dog about everything (Like they already do) and then people who didn't even do things, would get in trouble for something they didn't even do.

Maybe if there were moderators who deserve the position (And wasn't just handed it like most of them were) than it could possibly be better. Who knows?

And as I stated above, if administration wasn't biased, and didn't favor certain members, things would be much better (In my opinion)

Let me use an example: Deathknight. He claims he forgot his password (Which is very possible, I give him that) and came back as L-Inpecture_Chocolate (A name close to that)

Now isn't double accounting against the rules? He easily could ask an admin to reset his password, but he says he 'doesn't want' that name back. Which also could be understandable. But when he only shows up to attack members (Mainly me) isn't it a bit biased to let him do it without him getting any reprocussions (To my knowledge, nothing has been done to him for attacking people) Isn't it also biased that the members that he were attacking get blamed for "continuing the flame" for mearly defending themselves without any flamious retort?

Anyways: In my opinion, the only way to get rid of flame (And spam) is to quit with the biasedness and the "elitism" (As DEAD calls it) and make it so old members can get in trouble. I've noticed (Off the top of my head) that Camo, Merrell, RexyRex, Me, DK, Chris, and Euro can get away with flaming (Yes, I even admitted it) In order for flame to really disperse, you must show everyone that nobody can get away with flaming. And I mean nobody.

That's my input (Watch me get called a manipulator by DK) on this situation. Some might agree, some might not, I really don't care. Just giving my two cents (Even though everyone here hates me) in.

Kellimus, it's not that everyone hates you...

Everyone in a remote position of power hates you.

Slight difference. ^.^



Really nothing to say to that. Just need an active mod for those forums.

I love you for saying this , and would like to add something. Not only flaming, but allso abuse and attacking (that cannot be called flaming, but can lead to flame).

We allready discussed that. How to achive that ? Get moderation "split" into small areas of responsibility. How to do that ? Moove some moderators, hire some new ones.

That's my opinion.

Oh c'mon, me, flame? You're just saying that because you don't like me .
Count chocula isn't using both accounts at the same time, so it doesn't really have any problem.

Meh, I think this forum has SOO many arguments about moderation/administration/flaming/abuse, etc. I've seriously never seen any other forum I've been on bring up or argue about that stuff so much.

I say it because it's true.

And if it's okay for him to have two accounts but not use both of them, why did I get in trouble for having Zoltar along with Kellimus when I never posted with Zoltar? That gives no justification at all. It's bias.

Because he had a reason for making the name, he didn't have the password to the other one, even though it was possible to get back.

As long as he doesn't use both accounts, I don't see a problem.. -_-

one of DK's accounts should be deleted. Let him choose.

If you think the world hates you, odds are it might start coming true. Ever hear of the phrase "self-fulfilling prophecy"?


EDIT: Confused Zoltar with Zordon. My bad.
The only bias was from IP on letting you back in after that when your ISP should've been getting a nice letter from me.

As for DK/Inspecteur, Kellimus is right. Double accounts are double accounts regardless of whether they are used it or not... which means yes, action.

I think it's pretty clear that he's not using both accounts to do anything wrong, though.

Whatever works, I guess.

And I think the name Zoltar is being confused with Zordon.

I don't need self-fufilling prophecy. It's been this way since I first was here. Because of Devilesk.

Zoltar != Zordon. Zoltar was the "2nd account that was one reason for my bannage, along with my flame". Zordon was my gay ass friend that purposly did what he did to get back at me for god who knows what. But like it really matters: It's in the past.

Will we be informed of the action of double accounts? I think that would be the best thing to do: Inform the members of who has been double accounting.



So are you saying that it's okay to break one of the main rules, as long as you don't use them for any harm? What kind of logic is that? I'm not trying to be rude, but just listen to yourself..

And you're right. Zoltar is a completely different person than Zordon, as I stated above.

Anyways: No one really listens to me, so meh.

I am against people having double accounts, but what I'm saying is, in reallity, he only has one. He isn't capable of logging on with the other one right now.
He hasn't switched between them, he's stayed on one the whole time.
I still don't see the big deal in this though.

Database space.

These things stay private. If I told everyone what happened to who and such, there would be too much chaos in general.

If we're "taking care" of "double accounts," here's a pair.
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showuser=6855
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showuser=9537

Maybe they were created accidentally... Anything can happen.

Can administrators remoove accounts ? If so, just remove the unused one.

Minimoose, is the idea of "mod per topic" discussed in the mod's forums yet ?

The first one has a period. The real Dame never had a period on her name. But the second Dame is the one that messages me. Maybe she forgot her password like DK did eh?

Which is where it can get hectic with double accounts. If you notice, the Dame with a period, hasn't been active since last November, when Dame left... I think that if you're going to punish double accounters, they need a reasonable "excuse" for their reasonings of double accounting.. But they should provide proof.

I think a good idea is to make some kind of code that runs every month or so. Once the code is used, it looks through every member that registered on SEN for the same IP address. If two accounts have the same IP address, then one gets deleted and the one left over gets suspended.

Since SEN should enforce the rules a bit more harder, I think that would be an appropriate punishment.

Actually, IP address checking with everyone can be a problem. If my neighbor, who dials the same number as I do for my local ISP, visits SEN, then we will get the penalties. That's why it's only used on suspicious people who act the same.

Well, there is an easy fix for that. For every member that comes up with double accounts will recieve a PM and be watched over the next week or so. If the same accounts log on with the same IP then there is a problem.

Didn't you listen to Merrell? People who are different, can have the same IP. The only real way to do what you want, is to watch them for a long time, to see if they are the same person -_-...

Guys, maybe make a seperate topic "Double account problem" ?

Its been discussed here.

Though, if you've noticed I've been shifting around moderators and getting a few new ones for specific sections, fine-tuning the assignments if you will. Hopefully this can get more posts read by moderators than before.

ADDITION:
I just stumbled upon a major hole in the entire report system. Occasionally there were times I felt like I was the only one moderating certain forums (such as mapping)... and I found out why.

Assigning a group to moderate a forum (ie Global Moderators) didn't actually send reports to people in that group. So, yeah. This means a lot of reports probably weren't read or were just read a lot later than they could have been. I've fixed this for the most part by assigning specific forums. Expect some improvements in moderation speed.