Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2004-07-28 at 21:19:18
Evoulution, did you know neandrathals could not choke?!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Reever on 2004-07-28 at 21:19:36
Evolution God isnt real he didnt create me my mom and dad did lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-07-28 at 22:36:24
CheeZe you are still completely missing the point, I don't believe the Earth is around 7000 years old and believing in God does not mean that you do.
Linux, I said that believing in GOD does not mean you have to believe in a religion. However, if you believe in a religion, you worship God. It doesn't work both ways, so you didn't own me there.
Again, Linux, as for your second definition of Creationism, I find it UNIMAGINABLY HILARIOUS how you got that. I went and did the search myself at Dictionary.com, the first two definitions imply the general outlook that I had spoken of. The third and last definition on the page, which was the only one you chose to use, mentions the Book of Genesis specifically. I guess picking and choosing which facts you say is still lying
You just got owned fagget. Don't bend the truth again.
Linux, I said that believing in GOD does not mean you have to believe in a religion. However, if you believe in a religion, you worship God. It doesn't work both ways, so you didn't own me there.
Again, Linux, as for your second definition of Creationism, I find it UNIMAGINABLY HILARIOUS how you got that. I went and did the search myself at Dictionary.com, the first two definitions imply the general outlook that I had spoken of. The third and last definition on the page, which was the only one you chose to use, mentions the Book of Genesis specifically. I guess picking and choosing which facts you say is still lying
You just got owned fagget. Don't bend the truth again.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-07-28 at 22:40:42
..sala your not getting my point ..
Believing earth is 7000 years old requires NOTHING but faith. (thats what I have been saying) NO WHERE in any of my posts say it requires the belief of god (though 99.9999% people who believe in creation will believe in god).
Believing in god (like you said) does not mean you automatically think earth is 7000 years old. NOTHING in the bible says earth is that old (well pretty unlikely its' written in there anyway, but if creation were to exist, then the evidence from the bible points it's somewhere between 6000-10000 years old). I haven't disagreed with you anywhere, so how can I be missing the point?
[yes i reply fast because I have no life and constantly refresh this page it's true!!]
Believing earth is 7000 years old requires NOTHING but faith. (thats what I have been saying) NO WHERE in any of my posts say it requires the belief of god (though 99.9999% people who believe in creation will believe in god).
Believing in god (like you said) does not mean you automatically think earth is 7000 years old. NOTHING in the bible says earth is that old (well pretty unlikely its' written in there anyway, but if creation were to exist, then the evidence from the bible points it's somewhere between 6000-10000 years old). I haven't disagreed with you anywhere, so how can I be missing the point?
[yes i reply fast because I have no life and constantly refresh this page it's true!!]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-07-28 at 22:51:03
I don't know if this is in the bible but I was under the impression that 5000 years had passed from Creation to the Death of Jesus Christ, according the to the bible that is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by linux_junkie on 2004-07-28 at 23:47:44
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Linux, I said that believing in GOD does not mean you have to believe in a religion. However, if you believe in a religion, you worship God. It doesn't work both ways, so you didn't own me there.
Hey, way to not use common sense. By DEFINITION, believing in a god IS religion in itself. So yes, by the very meaning of the word, if you believe in a god you are believing a religion. Not necessarily Christianity, but a religion nonetheless. Try using common sense when you reply.
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Again, Linux, as for your second definition of Creationism, I find it UNIMAGINABLY HILARIOUS how you got that. I went and did the search myself at Dictionary.com, the first two definitions imply the general outlook that I had spoken of. The third and last definition on the page, which was the only one you chose to use, mentions the Book of Genesis specifically. I guess picking and choosing which facts you say is still lying
Really? I find it unimaginably hilarious how you just posted complete bull
. After searching, here is EVERY definition I found for creationism, complete with the url at which these were found. All were found at http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=creationism&r=67.QUOTE
cre·a·tion·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kr-sh-nzm)
n.
Belief in the literal interpretation of the account of the creation of the universe and of all living things related in the Bible.
n.
Belief in the literal interpretation of the account of the creation of the universe and of all living things related in the Bible.
Hm... is this what you were referring to? No? Oh, wait, you said that creationism doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the Bible. Ok, moving on...
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creationism
\Cre*a"tion*ism\ (-?z'm), n. The doctrine that a soul is specially created for each human being as soon as it is formed in the womb; -- opposed to traducianism.
\Cre*a"tion*ism\ (-?z'm), n. The doctrine that a soul is specially created for each human being as soon as it is formed in the womb; -- opposed to traducianism.
Was this the definition you're talking about? Well, if so, you're an idiot, since this has no bearing on this particular argument whatsoever. Well, maybe the next one will be it...
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creationism
n : the literal belief in the account of creation given in the Book of Genesis; "creationism denies the theory of evolution of species"
n : the literal belief in the account of creation given in the Book of Genesis; "creationism denies the theory of evolution of species"
Well, apparently not this one, since this is the definition I gave earlier, which you found "UNIMAGINABLY HILARIOUS". So, moving on yet again...
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creationism
The (false) belief that large, innovative software designs can
be completely specified in advance and then painlessly
magicked out of the void by the normal efforts of a team of
normally talented programmers. In fact, experience has shown...
The (false) belief that large, innovative software designs can
be completely specified in advance and then painlessly
magicked out of the void by the normal efforts of a team of
normally talented programmers. In fact, experience has shown...
Okay, seriously dude. This is the last definition. So, are you arguing a point about software design, or the creation of man? Hello? Well, I'll try and give you the benefit of the doubt that this is not what you were referring to, and hope that you're not unimaginably dim.
Well, having eliminated every option, I believe that you have indeed been owned, considering you just posted complete bull
in response to my factual, solid argument.QUOTE
You just got owned fagget. Don't bend the truth again.
Very nice, sala. I guess calling people "fagget" is a mature way to respond to arguments. Nice. Try remaining calm, kid. Take a valium. If an internet forum is getting you so worked up you feel the need to call people who disagree with you "fagget", maybe it's time to renew your prescription, buddy. And I think it's completely apparent that I haven't been bending the truth. You have. Get it straight, calm down, and don't post if you can't do so in a mature fashion. By the way, if you're gonna call someone "fagget", at least learn how to spell it. It's an "o", not an "e".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-07-28 at 23:55:30
I started to write .. but I don't care anymore. Interpret that anyway you want.
As for the end of my last post, _-_ I always spell that wrong anyway, because everyone does. It's a slang word anyway and no one spells it right. The original definition would be a cigarette however...
As for the end of my last post,
_-_ I always spell that wrong anyway, because everyone does. It's a slang word anyway and no one spells it right. The original definition would be a cigarette however...Report, edit, etc...Posted by linux_junkie on 2004-07-28 at 23:57:53
Well, most people I see at least have the respect to swear at me with proper english. 
And, by the way, enjoy that heaping pile of irrefutable ownage I delivered. I certainly enjoyed writing it.
And, by the way, enjoy that heaping pile of irrefutable ownage I delivered. I certainly enjoyed writing it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-07-28 at 23:59:09
I realized why I'm quitting out of this. Every other time I've had this argument there was an intelligent and neutral third party who was in control. Interpret that anyway you want.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-07-29 at 00:00:09
QUOTE(SaLaCiouS(U) @ Jul 28 2004, 10:59 PM)
I realized why I'm quitting out of this. Every other time I've had this argument there was an intelligent and neutral third party who was in control. Interpret that anyway you want.
would that be me?! kekekekekkekeke
you guys should stop arguing and crap and bring sources for your findings... (I should have done tha too)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by linux_junkie on 2004-07-29 at 00:02:33
No, you're quitting out of this because every argument you've made has been proven wrong, and your sick of looking like an idiot. Despite your best attempts, you've only succeeded in making yourself look like a spastic kid who can't handle being proven wrong, and resorts to name calling and eventually walking away from it. But, I'm fine with that one, since this was wearing a little thin. I think religious arguments might wanna be left out of these forums, at least for a little while.
I believe I DID provide sources. Anyways...
gg
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you guys should stop arguing and crap and bring sources for your findings... (I should have done tha too)
I believe I DID provide sources. Anyways...
gg
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-07-29 at 00:13:50
That's pretty much it. I was insulted by Dictionary.com's definitions...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by linux_junkie on 2004-07-29 at 00:27:09
Why would you be insulted by their definitions? Go look it up in any reputable dictionary, and you'll find the same thing. It's pretty apparent by now that you completely misunderstood what creationism was, and didn't realize that it applied specifically to Christianity. It happens. However, next time, you should double-check and make sure you're 100% sure of what you're arguing for . I'm assuming that you are not Christian, but still believe in man being created by a higher source. If that is indeed the case, ok. Obviously, no amount of evidence or research, found now or in the future, will change your mind on the issue. Understandable. Religion is a personal and special thing, and it's unlikely that you will alter you're beliefs based off of scientific evidence. I know that if scientists claimed to have definitive proof of the non-existance of Buddha, that I wouldn't believe them either. I would argue my point with them. However, I WOULD NOT, at any time, call them a faggot. My biggest objection to anything you have posted was this, since I find it an affront to the dignity of what was, I thought, a pretty reasonable debate. So please try and remain a little more level-headed next time, and keep things peacable, ok?
. I'm assuming that you are not Christian, but still believe in man being created by a higher source. If that is indeed the case, ok. Obviously, no amount of evidence or research, found now or in the future, will change your mind on the issue. Understandable. Religion is a personal and special thing, and it's unlikely that you will alter you're beliefs based off of scientific evidence. I know that if scientists claimed to have definitive proof of the non-existance of Buddha, that I wouldn't believe them either. I would argue my point with them. However, I WOULD NOT, at any time, call them a faggot. My biggest objection to anything you have posted was this, since I find it an affront to the dignity of what was, I thought, a pretty reasonable debate. So please try and remain a little more level-headed next time, and keep things peacable, ok?Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2004-07-29 at 03:15:37
I've only read the first page of posts, but,,,
" I've always wondered stuff like that. I mean, what if you are all fake, and you are just creations of my subconsious that I only percieve to be as real? What if the whole human race lives in their own little world? Or, what if we are like the cells within our body, and there is some bigger thing that we are all part of? "
Ya, this is one thing I keep thinking of.
Though, one of my friends was a complete moron wouldn't believe it.
Friend: *hits me*
Friend: Did that hurt?
Me: Kinda
Friend: Ya, it hurt, so therefore you must exist
... he doesn't seem to understand the concept that I may not exist and am just a figment of his imagination lying to him... such stupidity is sad...
" I've always wondered stuff like that. I mean, what if you are all fake, and you are just creations of my subconsious that I only percieve to be as real? What if the whole human race lives in their own little world? Or, what if we are like the cells within our body, and there is some bigger thing that we are all part of? "
Ya, this is one thing I keep thinking of.
Though, one of my friends was a complete moron wouldn't believe it.
Friend: *hits me*
Friend: Did that hurt?
Me: Kinda
Friend: Ya, it hurt, so therefore you must exist
... he doesn't seem to understand the concept that I may not exist and am just a figment of his imagination lying to him... such stupidity is sad...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Reever on 2004-07-29 at 03:32:50
LOL this isnt god or evoulution its the matrix were all not real just being used!!!!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2004-07-29 at 10:36:33
What about if we live like in 'Matrix'? Or if we don't have the real part, we are 100% computer programs?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-07-29 at 10:40:15
we might...we just might...
back on topic:
anyone who believes on earth is 7000 years old, please say why you think so..I'm still very curious..
back on topic:
anyone who believes on earth is 7000 years old, please say why you think so..I'm still very curious..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clan[SiP] on 2004-07-29 at 15:09:11
QUOTE(Clokr_ @ Jul 29 2004, 09:36 AM)
What about if we live like in 'Matrix'? Or if we don't have the real part, we are 100% computer programs?
perhaps Earth is just a giant computer created by mice to figure out the meaning of life
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2004-07-29 at 16:36:43
lol! by mice! so, god is mickey mouse?!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-07-29 at 17:57:47
Nah, I think in that situation god would be Walt Disney since he created Mickey Mouse he who is the leader of the mice who control us humans.
Now that dosen't make sense doest it? Although it's funny.
Now that dosen't make sense doest it? Although it's funny.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by feiteng on 2004-07-29 at 18:22:15
All of you who believe in Evolution are idiots. How can something come out of nothing not as in molecules becoming cells but as in how even one atom exists, which is something evolution can never explain. Argue as much as you want but that is hard concrete evidence that evolution is false.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-07-29 at 18:41:13
explain where god came and how he created everything from this "nothing" .. same thing back at you. see if evolution because of that is impossible, then creation is impossible and then what salacious said about if one is false, the other must be true is wrong. thats a terrible arguement, go do more research.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by feiteng on 2004-07-29 at 19:51:52
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explain where god came and how he created everything from this "nothing" .. same thing back at you. see if evolution because of that is impossible, then creation is impossible and then what salacious said about if one is false, the other must be true is wrong. thats a terrible arguement, go do more research.
Just because somebody believes that evolution is false doesn't automatically make them believe in creation. I never said that God created everything, I don't even believe in creation.
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It's obviously evolution anyone who believes earth is 7000 years old is stupid
Where did you get the impression that Christians believe that the Earth was 7000 years old?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-07-29 at 19:54:38
wtf...gg sala lol
ok then whats your opinion on this?
ok then whats your opinion on this?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2004-07-30 at 09:50:07
feiteng: evolution already explained how cells came from molecules. They came from an special type of molecules that were able to make new molecules likes them.