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Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-08-21 at 00:06:53
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I'm complaining how some Christians are intolerant in general >_>.

Umm.. Ok? confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2006-08-21 at 00:07:45
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Umm.. Ok?  confused.gif  confused.gif  confused.gif
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Wow.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-08-21 at 00:17:59
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Wow.

Mmhmm, my stupidity is overwhelming sometimes isn't it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2006-08-21 at 00:34:34
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Mmhmm, my stupidity is overwhelming sometimes isn't it?
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Just don't talk anymore.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-08-21 at 01:42:17
QUOTE(Mini_Boobs_2707 @ Aug 16 2006, 11:10 PM)
I hate gay people and they shouldnt even deserve to live.
A man and woman come together to reproduce
But when a man and another man comes together, its for no reason and its stupid. Gay people dont even deserve to live in America. They should be sent to Uranus or something.
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I read through pretty much every post excluding super long ones and the last few but id like to point out that you didn't say anything about girls with girls is a problem.

Also there is now laws for gay marriages anybody discriminating them because of it really are going against the law.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-08-21 at 02:57:48
There are some gays who are shy and some that are very open with their opinions, even aggressive. Making a generalization on all of them is pretty hard to do. It may seem though as if they're intolerant right now simply because they do not have as many rights others do. So of course if people make a gay joke, some will get really spun up since many members of the gay community feel they are treated less fairly by the government. This is probably the main reason why this arguement seems more of what PwnPirate referred to as "mobbing" rather than a serious discussion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2006-08-21 at 03:15:00
And I still do not see why anyone would think gays are intolerant. Every gay I have ever known has respected the opinions and beliefs of myself and everyone else I have known. The only thing I have seen them majorly care about is if you say anything bad about gays. I can understand that, but I will say it can get a bit excessive depending on who it is.

Everything I have seen you, luisv, post is just showing your intolerance agains gays. If you are intolerant yourself, please just shut up about it. Really, nobody wants to hear you cry about "intolerant gays" when you are intolerant yourself.

QUOTE(PwnPirate @ Aug 20 2006, 09:09 PM)
Hello sir. I like apples. I know this is a discussion about intolerance but I can say this because I'm allowed to state my opinion anywhere I want, whenever I want. You can't stop me. I like apples.
You know perfectly well what I meant. I didn't randomly post something about apples, now did I?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-08-21 at 15:19:37
Lusiv, I will have to rephrase it again and again, untill I get an answer from you:

You claim that being gay is not genetic, so being straight is genetic, right ? So, gays were straights, but somehow became gays, right ? This means, that some external factors "won" over their "nature" (being straight), thus turning them into gays ? Right ?

Do you understand the question now ?

To PwnPirate: I am sorry for that. Here are a fiew possible reasons:
-I didn't pay attention to it
-It didn't stand out
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CAFG4reals on 2006-08-21 at 18:04:23
lol pirate(uh oh... I mean *laughing out loud*), I was was pleased to see how you took time out to respond to everyone who posted a response, but I was very disappoited when all I got was this
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I'm sorry but we don't speak "MySpace" here, so you have "b4 no reason to even not agree English".

why? because I made b4=before, and I forgot a 'with' before homosexuality.
but you're right. Who am I to type like I'm talking on the internet. Report me to the spelling Nazis or your local english teacher at once!
The worst part is that...THAT best comeback you could give after reading it? I guess you like the number 3 even more than luisv
gg(thats good game, its a throw-back to a classic saying in multiplayer gaming, meaning, I win, its over, you lose)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-08-21 at 18:20:49
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The only thing I have seen them majorly care about is if you say anything bad about gays. I can understand that, but I will say it can get a bit excessive depending on who it is.

Well duh.
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lol pirate(uh oh... I mean *laughing out loud*), I was was pleased to see how you took time out to respond to everyone who posted a response, but I was very disappoited when all I got was this
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I'm sorry but we don't speak "MySpace" here, so you have "b4 no reason to even not agree English".

why? because I made b4=before, and I forgot a 'with' before homosexuality.
but you're right. Who am I to type like I'm talking on the internet. Report me to the spelling Nazis or your local english teacher at once!
The worst part is that...THAT best comeback you could give after reading it? I guess you like the number 3 even more than luisv

I would have given you a better response, but I had a lot of difficulty understanding any of your post.

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You know perfectly well what I meant. I didn't randomly post something about apples, now did I?

You posted something that had nothing to do with what he said, which he then pointed out, which you then proceeding with "stating your rights".
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Everything I have seen you, luisv, post is just showing your intolerance agains gays. If you are intolerant yourself, please just shut up about it. Really, nobody wants to hear you cry about "intolerant gays" when you are intolerant yourself.

Except that he's not intolerant of them? What exactly are you talking about? Once again how about you stop flaming because it doesn't make your argument any better. So
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If you are intolerant yourself, please just shut up about it. Really, nobody wants to hear you cry
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CAFG4reals on 2006-08-21 at 19:42:48
well atleast you're honest. Did anyone understand what I was asking? Was it that difficult?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-08-22 at 06:47:48
All right, all right, everyone shut up and get back on topic...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2006-08-22 at 17:11:54
QUOTE(Killer_Kow(MM) @ Aug 22 2006, 04:47 AM)
All right, all right, everyone shut up and get back on topic...
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What topic? This is the internat, you fool. No one stays on topic here!

But in attempt to lure you back into an endless discussion... I shall try and re-re-re-rephrase Jammed's question in "If, Then" form:

Luisv's argument: Being gay = not genetic(or if you prefer, 'genetical')

Jammed's argument:

If homosexuality is not genetic, then all gays started as straights.

If all gays started as straights, then they [the gays] must have gone against their natural habits/behavior patterns through sheer will or through 'external causes'(anything from [straights] living with or around other gays, to bad experiences with women, to a shortage of women).

Jammed's question to luisv: Is this correct, according to your reasoning?

I hope that helps.

Now, as for actual contributions, there is one case in which a child can be born thinking that men are attractive and women are not. This was described to me in a science class about two years ago.

Sometimes during pregnancy, a fetus will take time in 'deciding' which gender to be. Some parents can speed up the process, if they wish, by having doctors remove female-specific genitalia, leaving the fetus with no option but to become a male. In some cases, where the original plan was for the fetus to be born a female, a male born baby will feel attracted to other males because he will 'think' like a female.

Then again, there are also cases where straights go gay. Their argument is that, "Because we're both guys, we know how we like it [sex] best." Most males in this position are much older, and have been around the block a few times. But they'd be better classified as bisexuals.

Now, about the gays being intolerant thing, I take it you're talking from your own experiences, luisv. Everyone else is talking from their experiences. So, I'm thinking the gays you know act like pricks to you because they don't like you. It's not a question of being gay or not, it's a question of social habits. They just use their gayisms as ammunition for verbal insults or self defense. Taking advantage of something is a totally human habit.

I also remember that you said something about gays being hypocritical. You could say that about everyone, it's a human trait, not a 'gay' trait. Everyone from businessmen to school teachers to religious or anti-religious zealots.. everyone is a hypocrite.

Jokes are jokes, especially jokes on South Park. Can't take a joke? Don't stick around for it.

And this ex-gay thing... I don't know any, although it's entirely possible. Death threats are actually rather common in the US, where almost every other kid says f*** more than once an hour. In LA, it's about once a minute or more.

Really, I think that you're just pissed off at them and you need to direct your anger at something. Gays are human, and like everyone else, the only difference is that they like dick on dick action.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CAFG4reals on 2006-08-22 at 19:46:30
wow, I feel dumber after just reading that, so if your reading this first, dont scroll up...just because someone takes up a full page with their comments dont expect it to be intelligent/make sense.
I implore you to reconsider your stance on this, cuz i really dont want you on my side.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2006-08-22 at 21:12:05
QUOTE(PwnPirate @ Aug 21 2006, 04:20 PM)
You posted something that had nothing to do with what he said, which he then pointed out, which you then proceeding with "stating your rights".
How did it have nothing to do with what he said? He said I had a dumb point, and said that he didn't say he thought it "unnatural", so I was saying that I was saying my opinion on the topic. Its not that hard to figure it out, and it did have to do with what he said.

QUOTE(Mr.Camo @ Aug 20 2006, 10:34 PM)
Just don't talk anymore.
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Good advice, why doesn't he listen?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-08-23 at 20:15:54
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He said I had a dumb point, and said that he didn't say he thought it "unnatural", so I was saying that I was saying my opinion on the topic.

Your opinion had nothing to do with what he said because "he didn't say he thought it 'unnatural'". So basically your "opinion" had nothing to do with what anyone said.

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Good advice, why doesn't he listen?

That was pretty stupid.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nayed on 2006-08-23 at 20:33:51
man we all need a life... tlking about gays on a starcraft internet forum...? Cmon cant we do better than this guys?

People can do whatever the hell they want. If they want crazy pirate butt sex let them do whatever, just don't get the straights (me) involved.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2006-08-23 at 20:40:00
LOLZ. Gays just want to your money and all they do is wear tight fitting underwear and pull down there pants in groccery stores.

If a gay came up to me I would say...

Gay Guy: Hay wana spank my butt
Me: Excuse me?
Gay Guy: I said do you wana spank my bu--
Me: ( I throw a can of carbonatted rat poison at him)
Me: You got pwned!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CAFG4reals on 2006-08-23 at 23:41:34
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Cmon cant we do better than this guys?


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People can do whatever the hell they want


Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mirrora on 2006-08-23 at 23:54:20
Dest (lusiv) I have to say that gays are one of the most tollerant people I know. I have a few gay friends and they are all accepting of other peoples life styles. It is when others try to push their beliefs on them that it becomes a problem. Let live and let be, for the religious groups out there it is not for you to judge but rather for God. No person from my experince has ever changed their sexual oreintation because a few religious people tried to force their beliefs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-08-24 at 14:05:49
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man we all need a life... tlking about gays on a starcraft internet forum...? Cmon cant we do better than this guys?

People can do whatever the hell they want. If they want crazy pirate butt sex let them do whatever, just don't get the straights (me) involved.

Uhh... What?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Laser_Dude on 2006-08-24 at 15:30:37
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When Canada condemns people who have different points of view and people like you label it as "hate" then there is something obviously wrong with Canada now isn't there?


Now you're making generalizations. We didn't appoint him to represent Canada, his opinion is just one out of many millions of Canadians. Just like the name of this topic, one/several/all gays that the maker of this topic saw were rude and intolerant, that doesn't mean they all are!


QUOTE(SexyPinkPrincess @ Aug 16 2006, 05:30 PM)
Tell me how it's moral to tell someone who's never done anything to hurt you, that he or she is going to hell, is evil/bad, and is the scum of society. To make someone feel ashamed of who they are, and to hate him or herself. I guess it must be moral, because some book of teachings, for which you've never met the author, said so.

IMO it's not. We're not starving for a larger population right now. It's not a person's duty to have many children, if any. The homosexual population is so small, it's not going to significantly affect our population's growth. A homosexual person, cannot possibly hurt you in any meaningful way by being homosexual. Your teachings are out of date. Blind conservatism is what will be mankinds "undoing".
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My opinions agree with everything you said.

QUOTE(Syphon @ Aug 16 2006, 06:18 PM)
Well what if you were raped by a homosexual? What then. Then can you call them out?
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Now you're relating rapists to homosexuals, a very small amount of the population are homosexuals, same with rapists, a very small (if any) amount of gays are rapists, and if they are, there's nothing more against them then any other rapist, the just rape members of the same sex as opposed to the opposite sex.

QUOTE(Mini_Boobs_2707 @ Aug 17 2006, 12:10 AM)
I hate gay people and they shouldnt even deserve to live.
A man and woman come together to reproduce
But when a man and another man comes together, its for no reason and its stupid. Gay people dont even deserve to live in America. They should be sent to Uranus or something.
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You know, I honestly hate people like you. Seriously!

Gays are just people with different preferences, you have NO tolerance whatsoever. Should I blow Your house to bits just because you like Halo?(example). If I don't beleive in what the christians are telling people does that mean I should bomb the churches? NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! People like you make me fume in anger! Different people with different opinions are what make our world better! ranting.gif

QUOTE(O)FaRTy1billion @ Aug 17 2006, 03:28 PM)
If you think being gay is "unnatural" or anything like that, then I guess being straight is "unnatural" too.
It isn't exactly just one day some random person wakes up and says "I am going to decide I am gay!" Its a bit more complex than that.
Some of the basic reasons why people are gay is because they chose to be (that I personally think is a bit wierd..), they were born that way, they were raised in a homosexual environment (E.g.: your parents are gay), or they are people who think with their dick and freak the first thing they see.

And it isn't just humans that can be homosexual, there are gays of many different types of animals; penguins, monkeys, gorillas, dolphins, and many more. My friend did a report on it and found lots of things, such as a male penguin couple who were trying to mate and hatch a rock together. They were given a fertilized egg, and raised the chick together.

If there is something so wrong about someone being gay, what is it? I'd like to know why people female dog about it so much; its not like thats going to make them go away. I think that worrying about homosexuality is just a big waste of time and effort.

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I agree with you. You couldn't be more right

QUOTE(FallenDreamer @ Aug 22 2006, 02:11 PM)
Sometimes during pregnancy, a fetus will take time in 'deciding' which gender to be. Some parents can speed up the process, if they wish, by having doctors remove female-specific genitalia, leaving the fetus with no option but to become a male. In some cases, where the original plan was for the fetus to be born a female, a male born baby will feel attracted to other males because he will 'think' like a female.
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Your Science teacher was wrong, sex is determined by chromosomes. Female is XX, male is XY the female will always contribute an X to the baby, and the male (sperm) will either carry an X or a Y. If it's an X, you get a girl, if it's a Y you get a guy.

X l X
X l XX l XX
Y l XY l XY


Gayness is just another preference, like hamburgers to pizza, or tacos to hot dogs. I prefer hamburgers and tacos. Does that mean that I should kill all guys who prefer pizza or hot dogs? The answer is obvious, of course not. I prefer females to males, does that mean I should kill all the people who prefer males? Same answer, of course not. And to all the people who think gays all rape everyone, and walk up to people and say something(to do with sex), are wrong. Everything that applies to heterosexuals applies to gays too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CAFG4reals on 2006-08-24 at 17:47:23
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You know, I honestly hate people like you. Seriously!

Gays are just people with different preferences, you have NO tolerance whatsoever. Should I blow Your house to bits just because you like Halo?(example). If I don't beleive in what the christians are telling people does that mean I should bomb the churches? NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! People like you make me fume in anger! Different people with different opinions are what make our world better!

YHBT!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Laser_Dude on 2006-08-24 at 20:30:17
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YHBT!
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Don't spam, also, I was referring to the person quoted, not "you".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-08-24 at 20:33:28
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Your Science teacher was wrong, sex is determined by chromosomes.  Female is XX, male is XY the female will always contribute an X to the baby, and the male (sperm) will either carry an X or a Y.  If it's an X, you get a girl, if it's a Y you get a guy.

    X    l  X
X l XX l XX
Y l XY l XY

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There are, however, rare situations in which a person is born with both sets of genetailia. There is an off chance that the wrong one is removed, and the person will believe they are the other gender.
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