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its 269/211 isn't 270 majority? So that means he wins right? OWNED? and ya most people i know that voted for kerry said they did it because they dotn like bush....idiots.



that MIGHT be the dumbest thing i have ever heard in my life....you say he is going to make it worse? it has to get 'bad' before it gets 'worse' and imho its pretty damn 'good'!

GO BUSH =D

Well it all relies on Ohio. Bush doesn't have 269, he has 249. Most news centers are saying he's won Ohio prematurely. There are still 250,000 out-of-state ballots to count wheich they wont get to for another 11 days. So to say that Ohio goes to Bush is a large mistake, much like saying Florida went to Bush in 2000.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, electronic voting will win this election for Bush. Diebold, the company that made the system, even assured it. To me, that's cheating. It was proven in both California and Maryland courts that this system could easilly be hacked into and votes can be erased or changed. I feel that in states like Indiana, Florida, and Ohio, this type of unfair play has been implemented. 30% of the popular vote used the electronic system, meaning 30% of voters could possibly have their votes changed. Without a reciept, Diebold can change any votes they want with nothing to use as evidence against them. So yay, Bush will win as a cheater.

Pears, you honestly think we're doing good now? I was joking about that statement earlier, but it does have some ironic truth to it. What about the fact that practically none of our old allies like us any more? How about Americans losing a huge amount of jobs? How about the fact that our troops lack armor while Bush funds newer stronger armor for his oil contracters? And what about outsourcing?

Man I'm hoping America gets invaded or nuked by North Korea just as an act of karma. We will go downhill from here. It is inevitable.

Oh and you didn't hear it, you read it.

I voted for Bush based on morale issues.

I don't see how anyone could vote for anyone that supports pro-death abortion and gay homosexuals. What it all boils down to; is their character.

Anyways, Deathknight made some interesting points; however, most people don't realize this but at the end of President Clinton's term the economy started to get really bad. This is the first time that 3000 American lives were lost in a day over American soil, you possibly can't blame President Bush for that. He did all he could, he put more money in your pockets, he gives more money to small buisnesses. How the economy grows is based on the people.

EDIT:: Devilin everything you just said was a load of crap.
Kerry proposed to stop funding the troops more then President Bush. None of America's allies 'like' us anymore? What kind of is that. Actually job growth as improved lately. There is a factory near me that CAN'T find help, it needs around fifty more people.

Get your head out of your ass and see the real world.
BTW: The voting system could not be hacked because they were not networked together.

Well, Bush won SEN election. *sniff*

I don't give a what you think about what I said. I know what I said is true because I've read about all of it in the press (a few links below). And correct, they don't like us anymore. Why else did Poland, France, Germany, and others finally decide not to help us on our crusade?

As far as I'm concerned, Bush cheated thanks to Diebold computer systems. Whether they were hacked or not, Diebold himself could have easilly took out a few thousand democratic votes.
August 28, 2003:
COLUMBUS - The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm

So here's my toast to the next 4 years. I don't care what y'all say, I know America as a superpower will fade away. Bush is going to bring our country's credibility down dramatically.

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JOBS:
http://www.economist.com/agenda/displaySto...tory_id=3079682
http://www.jobwatch.org/
http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/webfeatu...rowth_testimony

ALLIES:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2544599.stm
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ideas_opin...6p-204467c.html
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticl...41§ion=news
http://www.cfr.org/pub5355/bruce_stokes/how_they_see_us.php

DIEBOLD:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm
http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/000699.html
http://www.boomchicago.nl/Section/Latest-N...goVotingMachine (A joke cartoon, but people have stated this has happened to them)

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Want me to add more, or do those help prove my point enough?

what is this thread for anyway.. it has nothing to do with mapping and wont make any change in the world

il just say like the alien vs predator movie "whoever wins, we lose"
and like southpark "gigant douche vs turd sandwich"

Kerry lost because he's ugly. That's what I've been saying for awhile now.

Wow... gotta counter people that make up . I personally wanted Nader to win, but since that obviously wasn't going to happen I voted for Kerry, the lesser of the two evils.


First off-- homosexuality is not something that be controlled. You are opposed to them for moral reasons and things about their character? Being gay is part of their character. They can change it about as much as you can change being a dumbshît. By the way... gay homosexuals? I wasn't aware that there was a different kind of homosexuals.

"First time over 3000 lives had been lost in a day." Hmmm... the revolutionary and civil wars strike a bell. True, a terrorist act such as September 11 could not have been anticipated, but when it did happen, Bush backed off and went after Saddam.... wtf? Even if he did have weapons of mass destruction, so do many other countries, who have them openly.

"There is a factory near me that CAN'T find help, it needs around fifty more people." A factory... way to be extremely general, which shows that you are most likely making it up. As if you can judge how many workers they need in a factory. Oh ya, its judged by how big the sign on the door that says "help wanted" is.

"Kerry wanted to stop funding the troops." No he didn't. He wanted to take out the troops. When you don't have any troops fighting, there arent many fighting troops that need to be funded.

"Pro death abortion" Yeah I know. STOP KILLING OUR DEAD BABIES!
Only a fool would oppose stem cell research.

"the voting system could not be hacked because they were not networked together" ... because of course voting booths are identical to computers. Suppose 1/10 votes for kerry was automatically tallied as a vote to bush? Not that i truly believe that the election was rigged. It doesnt have to be with ignorant morons like yourself voting.

For those of you with yours heads under a rock, or in the same town as @:@, Kerry conceded defeat after it was almost completely certain that he had lost. So its down to Bush and Nader now.... go nader?

So your homophobic then? That seems very, politically incorrect, or are you just against Homosexual marriages as a whole? I see no issues myself, and when i vote in the next general election, i'll not see something like that as an issue to myself at all.

FaZ-, once again you're a hero in my eyes.

I have a lot of homosexual friends, and in some cases they are much more open and real than my straight friends. So I of course have nothing against them. I think gay marriage should not be amended because its too closely tied with the argument of religion - and as we all know, America is supposed to have church and state separate. I have many very personal accounts where the technicalities involved in the bureaucracy of our government have made it impossible for some gay couples to not be married - i.e. visiting a sick lover at a hospital.

The democratic party - my party - has taken a huge loss. And all we can do now is prepare for the next election and build upward.

lol woot woot, go Bush, go Bush! kerry is ugly, his face drops down to his shoulders, its pretty sick

I also have many close Homosexual friends, and two of them have been together for some time now, and the idea of being banned from having a way to show their love to each other seems wrong to me.

was that to me or someone else, because i was just saying i dislike kerry

Someone moved the topic
BAM! I said it befor Moose lol

Anyways Bush won so don't hassle about it.

Seems like people would like to have bush for another 4 years since he won the SEN elections and the real elections.

Ok, it's proved. The average American is stupid. Get ready for 4 more years of ...

Bush won the SEN election mostly because of me, I spent all last night organizing countless votes. The last 20 or so votes for Bush were from people who probably wouldn't have known about the poll had I not told them. Go me and my endless pro-Bush SEN campaign

EDIT: BTW... all you people who are like "OMG ARMAGEDDON" and "OMG AMERICANS R DUMB" are idiots yourselves. Four more years, ok. Time to get over it and move on. Clearly though, the only idiots in the country are the ones who vote for Kerry just because they hate Bush.

And another thing.. the Democratic party is really ed. Unless the put up a woman next election they're gonna be dust in the wind. It's hard for them to come up with some sort of hero since there are no *MAJOR* wars going on. The only choice they have to get someone great is a woman or something. Or a black guy, but he would just get shot.

He would get run over with a truck from Alabama.

I don't know about you guys, but all this just adds to my theory that the population of America is largely composed of morons.
And, yeah, I'm American, so I can say this.


I'm totally furioous that this lying weasel has, once again, signed us up for four years of stupidity.

There is NOTHING wrong with the democratic party. There is nothing wrong with the Republican party. I have nothing against the parties. What I am against is Bush because he is a moron. He doens't know what he's doing. Americans are too stupid to realize it. It's really, really, really sad.

Who wants a cola to relax and calm down

Cheeze: Actually the Democratic party is pretty ed. They lost the presidency, senate, house, and thier majority leader (Daschle) was beaten.

Neo: He was agreeing with my point.

SaLa: My armageddon comment was a joke. I just honestly think that if bush invades another country, we're doomed and any credit we had will disappear.

Coko:
I'm one step ahead of ya.

Sigh. I declare a day of mourning for our country.

I know 2 people who are going to move to canada. I told them it was still too close.

I must give it serious thought... Canada sure has nice weather.

I would move to Germany, or perhaps Japan, if I could convince anyone else...