Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-05-14 at 13:26:08
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I generalize becuase I can, I generalize becuase many countries in Africa and the Middle East just don't get it. They don't understand about women's rights etc. They don't understand about a lot of things.
Muslems, Muslems, Muslems, Muslems.
I am Catholic, I am forgivin for almost any sins I commit only if I go to confession. When, at least Catholics, kill while in battle in Iraq, we kill for protection for the families at home.
"Christian President"..? haha typical you probably think this is a religious crusade.
Lol, Euro I just posted that same video in another thread. Those are British soldiers, not American haha.
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Muslems, Muslems, Muslems, Muslems.
I am Catholic, I am forgivin for almost any sins I commit only if I go to confession. When, at least Catholics, kill while in battle in Iraq, we kill for protection for the families at home.
"Christian President"..? haha typical you probably think this is a religious crusade.
Lol, Euro I just posted that same video in another thread. Those are British soldiers, not American haha.
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YOU freakING IDIOT. I TOLD YOU "MUSLEM" MEANS COWARD, THIEF OR DEVIL IN ARABIC, YET YOU CONTINUE TO INSULT MY RELIGION. Obviously, you're too much of a bigot to understand!
I've now had to deal with two anti-Muslim Christians. The point of my post was, you are contradicting your own bible. To this, you did not respond. Thus, that argument is void. I think this is a religious crusade? It IS a religious crusade. The original name of Operation Iraqi Freedom was Operation Freedom Crusade. Now then, killing Iraqis does not protect your families at home. Why? Iraqis are fighting for themselves and fellow Iraqis. We invaded their country, and they are fighting for their families. Is it truly just to kill a man trying to save his wife and children? I think not. Our soldiers aren't fighting to save their families, our soldiers are fighting because we told them to. In fact, we ought to be trying to save our soldiers by getting them back home. They are dying stupid deaths to roadside bombs, inglorious deaths that they did not deserve.
Christian President? Mr. GW Bush here supports Creationi- I mean, "Intelligent Design" being taught in schools.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-05-14 at 14:04:45
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If I wasn't mistakened, isn't this a "crusade" that we are on? Your precious Dubya even called it that.
When you use the word crusade, it does not always refer to the Catholic's attempt to take back the holy lands from others. What I said before:
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Yes, but in the context of a strong struggle ahead. Just like roosevelt told the D-Day troops before they dropped in the towns or landed on the beaches of normandy.
"You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you"
Not a religious war.
"You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you"
Not a religious war.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-05-14 at 16:11:32
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YOU freakING IDIOT. I TOLD YOU "MUSLEM" MEANS COWARD, THIEF OR DEVIL IN ARABIC, YET YOU CONTINUE TO INSULT MY RELIGION. Obviously, you're too much of a bigot to understand!
I've now had to deal with two anti-Muslim Christians. The point of my post was, you are contradicting your own bible. To this, you did not respond. Thus, that argument is void. I think this is a religious crusade? It IS a religious crusade. The original name of Operation Iraqi Freedom was Operation Freedom Crusade. Now then, killing Iraqis does not protect your families at home. Why? Iraqis are fighting for themselves and fellow Iraqis. We invaded their country, and they are fighting for their families. Is it truly just to kill a man trying to save his wife and children? I think not. Our soldiers aren't fighting to save their families, our soldiers are fighting because we told them to. In fact, we ought to be trying to save our soldiers by getting them back home. They are dying stupid deaths to roadside bombs, inglorious deaths that they did not deserve.
Christian President? Mr. GW Bush here supports Creationi- I mean, "Intelligent Design" being taught in schools.
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I've now had to deal with two anti-Muslim Christians. The point of my post was, you are contradicting your own bible. To this, you did not respond. Thus, that argument is void. I think this is a religious crusade? It IS a religious crusade. The original name of Operation Iraqi Freedom was Operation Freedom Crusade. Now then, killing Iraqis does not protect your families at home. Why? Iraqis are fighting for themselves and fellow Iraqis. We invaded their country, and they are fighting for their families. Is it truly just to kill a man trying to save his wife and children? I think not. Our soldiers aren't fighting to save their families, our soldiers are fighting because we told them to. In fact, we ought to be trying to save our soldiers by getting them back home. They are dying stupid deaths to roadside bombs, inglorious deaths that they did not deserve.
Christian President? Mr. GW Bush here supports Creationi- I mean, "Intelligent Design" being taught in schools.
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I believe I hit a nerve. Im not anti-muslem err muslim.
You can jsut say Im frustrated at the situation in the Middle East.
And I did answer the the statement about contradicting Jesus.
And just to tell you ALOT of the fighting over in Iraq are forgien fighters. They bomb Iraqis and have pretty much successfully started or almost have started a civil war.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-05-14 at 20:00:19
You did hit a nerve. Why? You've been deliberately insulting my religion for the past two pages. If I posted two pages of lies and insults about your religion, and called your religion the "Worshippers of Satan", would you be pissed?
You did not answer the statement about contradicting Jesus. Is it in the Bible that you are not suppose to kill whatsoever, or not? Did Jesus not say/imply this? The foreign fighters should be imprisoned for life. They are going against the morals of their own religion and are killing without a cause.
And Stalingrad, do you think Muslims in the middle east care that Crusade was not used as meaning religious war? The Muslims in the Middle East had to contend with the Crusades. The word is NOT to be used lightly over there, Stalingrad.
You did not answer the statement about contradicting Jesus. Is it in the Bible that you are not suppose to kill whatsoever, or not? Did Jesus not say/imply this? The foreign fighters should be imprisoned for life. They are going against the morals of their own religion and are killing without a cause.
And Stalingrad, do you think Muslims in the middle east care that Crusade was not used as meaning religious war? The Muslims in the Middle East had to contend with the Crusades. The word is NOT to be used lightly over there, Stalingrad.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-14 at 21:06:17
Oh, there is a cause.
Oil
Oil
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And Stalingrad, do you think Muslims in the middle east care that Crusade was not used as meaning religious war? The Muslims in the Middle East had to contend with the Crusades. The word is NOT to be used lightly over there, Stalingrad.
Didn't really think of it that far
.But I take it you're not living in the Middle East currently and have grasped better meanings of certain words. So please do not say that just because the word crusade is in it, does not mean a holy war.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-14 at 21:36:01
But if the retarded president had not called it that, then we wouldn't have this problem, now would we?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-05-14 at 23:09:05
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But if the retarded president had not called it that, then we wouldn't have this problem, now would we?
What problem, are you relating the prior name of Operation Iraqi freedom to the conflict with Iran and the insurgants?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-15 at 00:49:10
Sounds to me like it's a crusade like he said it would be. First Afghanistan, then Iraq. And now Iran? Seems to me like he's going after all the places that have OIL that are in the middle east. This isn't a crusade??
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-05-15 at 01:23:10
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Sounds to me like it's a crusade like he said it would be. First Afghanistan, then Iraq. And now Iran? Seems to me like he's going after all the places that have OIL that are in the middle east. This isn't a crusade??
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lol all Aphgan's got is opium or how ever you spell it
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-05-15 at 09:08:53
We had a reason for Afghanistan. Al-Quaeda was and partially is still there, it was a just war. Iraq was reasonless. We have a reason to invade Iran; it has nukes, but Iran has a reason to have nukes; us.
Stalingrad, why are you still arguing over that? I told you that "Crusade" was not used to mean Holy War in "Freedom Crusade", but I told you the word was not to be used lightly in the Middle East because they had to contend with the Crusades. I don't even know what the hell your argument is anymore, because it's fallen apart and I've stated a fact:
Middle Eastern people neither care nor like the word "Crusade", because that word has an evil history in the Middle East which is deeply remmembered.
Stalingrad, why are you still arguing over that? I told you that "Crusade" was not used to mean Holy War in "Freedom Crusade", but I told you the word was not to be used lightly in the Middle East because they had to contend with the Crusades. I don't even know what the hell your argument is anymore, because it's fallen apart and I've stated a fact:
Middle Eastern people neither care nor like the word "Crusade", because that word has an evil history in the Middle East which is deeply remmembered.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-05-15 at 15:29:22
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why are you still arguing over that?
I'm not arguing over anything.
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If some of your religious community would stop invading muslim countries and calling them a "Freedom Crusade", we'd be a lot more likely to accept some of your ideas about democracy.
You were calling it a holy war along with some of your other previous posts. You may not have meant it as you believe it is a war of religions yourself, but it came out that way.
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So please do not say that just because the word crusade is in it, does not mean a holy war.
What I said: Do not take it like it is a holy war.
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Sounds to me like it's a crusade like he said it would be. First Afghanistan, then Iraq. And now Iran? Seems to me like he's going after all the places that have OIL that are in the middle east. This isn't a crusade??
All depends what your definition of a crusade is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-16 at 00:15:48
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I'm not arguing over anything.
You were calling it a holy war along with some of your other previous posts. You may not have meant it as you believe it is a war of religions yourself, but it came out that way.
What I said: Do not take it like it is a holy war.
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You were calling it a holy war along with some of your other previous posts. You may not have meant it as you believe it is a war of religions yourself, but it came out that way.
What I said: Do not take it like it is a holy war.
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Techincally, you are arguing. That's what a debate is: An argument presenting your side of the view.
It is a Holy War. Not how the US says. It's the US's Holy War.
But, it is. Bush's Holy "Crusade"
His definition of crusade is probibly the REAL definition is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-05-16 at 18:33:03
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All depends what your definition of a crusade is.
That comment was to you kellimus
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It is a Holy War. Not how the US says. It's the US's Holy War.
But, it is. Bush's Holy "Crusade"
But, it is. Bush's Holy "Crusade"
How do you figure it's a holy war? You can't, just because we are occupying a country that has an Islamic backround and threatening to bomb another, you think it's a holy war? No, it's not, it's the fights we choose that happen to be in the Middle East where the majority belong to Islam. What, are you going to tell me the Viet War was a holy war to?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-05-16 at 22:29:00
Yes I believe he will.
He will also state that Nixon started it.
He will also state that Nixon started it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-18 at 14:34:55
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That comment was to you kellimus
How do you figure it's a holy war? You can't, just because we are occupying a country that has an Islamic backround and threatening to bomb another, you think it's a holy war? No, it's not, it's the fights we choose that happen to be in the Middle East where the majority belong to Islam. What, are you going to tell me the Viet War was a holy war to?
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How do you figure it's a holy war? You can't, just because we are occupying a country that has an Islamic backround and threatening to bomb another, you think it's a holy war? No, it's not, it's the fights we choose that happen to be in the Middle East where the majority belong to Islam. What, are you going to tell me the Viet War was a holy war to?
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A crusade is an invasion of a country for reasons specified by the leader that DEEMS it a crusade.
A holy crusade is an invasion of a country for "holy" reasons specified by the leader that DEEMS it a crusade.
And yes, it's a holy war. Catholics (Along with every other pathetic ass religion in the world) believe that if you don't follow your religion, you're heratics, and you're going to hell. And for god's sake, our god forsaken president DEEMED it a Crusade (Which President Bush, DID)
No. It's not. It was a war to "defend democracy from Communism". And Johnson started it.
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Yes I believe he will.
He will also state that Nixon started it.
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All you do is provoke people, so stfu Chris. Read above you troll.
You're lucky I want to continue being part of SeN. Just leave Chris. The only person who likes you is Stalingrad because he is just a little child that is to hard headed to understand what the REAL WORLD is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-05-18 at 14:38:18
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We had a reason for Afghanistan. Al-Quaeda was and partially is still there, it was a just war. Iraq was reasonless. We have a reason to invade Iran; it has nukes, but Iran has a reason to have nukes; us.
Hmm LOL! First of all, they do NOT have nukes. Even if they were trying to get them, it would take a decade acoring to the last report I believe. Also, we do not know for sure if they are making nukes. All we know is that they have making nuclear energy. HMMM funny how the people with nukes are pressuring others not to get them.. wheres that picure of the nuke telling the guy "You cannot have nuclear weapons!"?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-05-18 at 15:34:12
By the Iranian government's most optimistic projections, they will have nuclear weapons in 3 years.
I believe what is holding them back right now is the number of centrifuges they have. A large number of them (working together) are required to purify uranium, and they only have 3 out of the 167 needed, or something as absurdly low as that.
I believe what is holding them back right now is the number of centrifuges they have. A large number of them (working together) are required to purify uranium, and they only have 3 out of the 167 needed, or something as absurdly low as that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-05-18 at 20:24:04
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You're lucky I want to continue being part of SeN. Just leave Chris. The only person who likes you is Stalingrad because he is just a little child that is to hard headed to understand what the REAL WORLD is.
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Hey, awhile ago you tried to say Nixon (like most Republicans by your def.) are war hungry people. Which I did correct you but you still seem to have not acknowledged it (Vietnam). Wait a sec, didn't Nixon pull the troops out? oh yeah and before that who put them in?
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Hmm LOL! First of all, they do NOT have nukes. Even if they were trying to get them, it would take a decade acoring to the last report I believe. Also, we do not know for sure if they are making nukes. All we know is that they have making nuclear energy. HMMM funny how the people with nukes are pressuring others not to get them.. wheres that picure of the nuke telling the guy "You cannot have nuclear weapons!"?
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Well when the Irani President states that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth and that their end will come soon at the same time Iran is developing a nuclear program that has the real possibility of turning into a bomb would make anyone uneasy...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-05-18 at 21:42:46
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A crusade is an invasion of a country for reasons specified by the leader that DEEMS it a crusade.
It wouldn't be called an offical crusade; it would be called a crusade in the case of an ultimate struggle.
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A holy crusade is an invasion of a country for "holy" reasons specified by the leader that DEEMS it a crusade.
Bush never said it was a holy crusade
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And yes, it's a holy war. Catholics (Along with every other pathetic ass religion in the world) believe that if you don't follow your religion, you're heratics, and you're going to hell. And for god's sake, our god forsaken president DEEMED it a Crusade (Which President Bush, DID)
It's not a holy war. You can't just make assumptions like that or you'll look retarded. What, just because a majority of Americans were catholic when we invaded Vietnam, it was a holy war? Give me a quote, then i'll shut the hell up.
And George Bush didn't even use thw word crusade, he used the word invasion, war, etc.
If you're sticking to your story that this is a holy crusade, you are either:
a. Trying to make Bush look as bad as possible which I don't have a problem with until it gets into complete blasphemy (you are doing this very thing).
or
b. You think that any nation that has gone to war with another nation with a different national religion was on a holy crusade.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-19 at 11:29:03
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Hey, awhile ago you tried to say Nixon (like most Republicans by your def.) are war hungry people. Which I did correct you but you still seem to have not acknowledged it (Vietnam). Wait a sec, didn't Nixon pull the troops out? oh yeah and before that who put them in?
Well when the Irani President states that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth and that their end will come soon at the same time Iran is developing a nuclear program that has the real possibility of turning into a bomb would make anyone uneasy...
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Didn't Nixon promise that soon as he got into office, he would pull them out? How long did it take him? That's what I thought, now shut up.
Ever heard of Scare Tactics? Guess not.
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It wouldn't be called an offical crusade; it would be called a crusade in the case of an ultimate struggle.
Bush never said it was a holy crusade
It's not a holy war. You can't just make assumptions like that or you'll look retarded. What, just because a majority of Americans were catholic when we invaded Vietnam, it was a holy war? Give me a quote, then i'll shut the hell up.
And George Bush didn't even use thw word crusade, he used the word invasion, war, etc.
If you're sticking to your story that this is a holy crusade, you are either:
a. Trying to make Bush look as bad as possible which I don't have a problem with until it gets into complete blasphemy (you are doing this very thing).
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b. You think that any nation that has gone to war with another nation with a different national religion was on a holy crusade.
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Bush never said it was a holy crusade
It's not a holy war. You can't just make assumptions like that or you'll look retarded. What, just because a majority of Americans were catholic when we invaded Vietnam, it was a holy war? Give me a quote, then i'll shut the hell up.
And George Bush didn't even use thw word crusade, he used the word invasion, war, etc.
If you're sticking to your story that this is a holy crusade, you are either:
a. Trying to make Bush look as bad as possible which I don't have a problem with until it gets into complete blasphemy (you are doing this very thing).
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b. You think that any nation that has gone to war with another nation with a different national religion was on a holy crusade.
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Ultimate struggle for what? Power? Money? Revenge? Those doesn't justify a war. That's what ALL wars are. Struggles for POWER, REVENGE, or MONEY. Fueled by GREED.
Look at the Romans. They conquered most of their known world. And for what? POWER.
The Greeks. Alexander The Great. Fought for: POWER.
World War One. Fought because Arch Duke Ferdinan (Or was it Ferdinand?) was murdered. And for why? Revenge.
World War Two. Fought because Hitler was invading countries (Power), and wanted to kill all the Jews (Revenge)
Korean War. POWER
Vietnam War. POWER
Desert Storm. MONEY. Iraq invaded Kuwait because they devised a way to drill diagonally into Iraq, and steal their Oil. The Americans (Bush Sr. btw. Isn't it kind of IRONIC?) said we had Iraq's back, so they invaded. Turns out that we lied, and beat Saddam out. Only to have Kuwait be our Oil buddies. Oil = MONEY.
Operation Freedom Crusade (Known as, "The War On Terrorism" to you ignorant) POWER and MONEY. Power over the Middle East by forming Democratic nations where Democracy has never been before (Also infringing Muslims religious activities) and MONEY by creating these Democratic nations to trade their Oil with the United States at cheep cheep prices (Because WE put THEM in POWER).
If you knew ANYTHING about the Psychology of humans, you would know that EVERY SINGLE ACTION humans do, is fueled by GREED. To bad you're going to blow me off, and call me a conspiracy theorist, just because I know how human actions are dicated within' their mind.
Maybe you should just shut up? Everything you spout out in ANY of the political threads, is recycled conservative garbage and propaganda that ignorant fools like yourself (And Chris) eat up on a daily basis because it is so candy-coated lovey-dovey BULLcrap. It's sad how the United States is full of ignorant retards that can be manipulated with simple little words. It's getting rather old how you will NEVER open up your fragile little mind to what THE REAL WORLD is.
"But what you say is lies, and personal beliefs!"
If you use LOGIC, you can see that the world is full of manipulative, worthless pieces of absolute crap. The human race DESERVES what is comming. We deserve a nuclear holocaust because of IGNORANT RETARDS. If the world wasn't so ignorant, we wouldn't have wars at all. But guess what? THERE ARE.
Didn't use the words Crusade? Better go back to some of his earliest speeches fool.
Hey! I didn't know that you could read minds! Good job! Continue to read my mind, because you just know exactly what I'm thinking. I never knew you had such powers. That's totally AWESOME! Hell yeah!
Get my point? You can't even FATHOM why I dispise Bush and hate America right now because you're to damn brainwashed by conservative BULLcrap.
But I'm just a deranged conspiracy theorist, so my arguments are not plausible.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-05-19 at 13:51:06
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ignorant fools like yourself (And Chris)
If you think that people you argue with are fools & you are smarter, why don't you stop this so called "discussing"? A smart person will not argue with a fool, it is beneath his dignity.
Maybe you are trying to proove something to them ?
But if you see that they will not change their points of view, why do you still post ?
Being not manner is not a way to a person's mind.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-05-19 at 16:02:16
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Ultimate struggle for what? Power? Money? Revenge? Those doesn't justify a war. That's what ALL wars are. Struggles for POWER, REVENGE, or MONEY. Fueled by GREED.
Look at the Romans. They conquered most of their known world. And for what? POWER.
The Greeks. Alexander The Great. Fought for: POWER.
World War One. Fought because Arch Duke Ferdinan (Or was it Ferdinand?) was murdered. And for why? Revenge.
World War Two. Fought because Hitler was invading countries (Power), and wanted to kill all the Jews (Revenge)
Korean War. POWER
Vietnam War. POWER
Desert Storm. MONEY. Iraq invaded Kuwait because they devised a way to drill diagonally into Iraq, and steal their Oil. The Americans (Bush Sr. btw. Isn't it kind of IRONIC?) said we had Iraq's back, so they invaded. Turns out that we lied, and beat Saddam out. Only to have Kuwait be our Oil buddies. Oil = MONEY.
Operation Freedom Crusade (Known as, "The War On Terrorism" to you ignorant) POWER and MONEY. Power over the Middle East by forming Democratic nations where Democracy has never been before (Also infringing Muslims religious activities) and MONEY by creating these Democratic nations to trade their Oil with the United States at cheep cheep prices (Because WE put THEM in POWER).
Look at the Romans. They conquered most of their known world. And for what? POWER.
The Greeks. Alexander The Great. Fought for: POWER.
World War One. Fought because Arch Duke Ferdinan (Or was it Ferdinand?) was murdered. And for why? Revenge.
World War Two. Fought because Hitler was invading countries (Power), and wanted to kill all the Jews (Revenge)
Korean War. POWER
Vietnam War. POWER
Desert Storm. MONEY. Iraq invaded Kuwait because they devised a way to drill diagonally into Iraq, and steal their Oil. The Americans (Bush Sr. btw. Isn't it kind of IRONIC?) said we had Iraq's back, so they invaded. Turns out that we lied, and beat Saddam out. Only to have Kuwait be our Oil buddies. Oil = MONEY.
Operation Freedom Crusade (Known as, "The War On Terrorism" to you ignorant) POWER and MONEY. Power over the Middle East by forming Democratic nations where Democracy has never been before (Also infringing Muslims religious activities) and MONEY by creating these Democratic nations to trade their Oil with the United States at cheep cheep prices (Because WE put THEM in POWER).
You failed, It's still not a holy crusade like you said. And it is a struggle never-the-less no matter what intentions their were. The struggle is fought by soldiers, not the government. You don't see George Bush picking up an M1A1 assault rifle fighting along with the troops in Iraq. I also have to say who ever is infringing Muslims because of their religion are paranoid and shouldn't live in America. BTW certain communities are being ignorant, not the government.
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If you knew ANYTHING about the Psychology of humans, you would know that EVERY SINGLE ACTION humans do, is fueled by GREED. To bad you're going to blow me off, and call me a conspiracy theorist, just because I know how human actions are dicated within' their mind.
Nice dude, you know what balances out greed in the human mind/actions? Empathy. Not ever human action is caused out of greed. I go out of my way to do things for people, some that I do not even know all the time, so do many people I know.
If every action was dictated out of greed, we would not have charities or overseas aid.
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Maybe you should just shut up? Everything you spout out in ANY of the political threads, is recycled conservative garbage and propaganda that ignorant fools like yourself (And Chris) eat up on a daily basis because it is so candy-coated lovey-dovey BULLcrap. It's sad how the United States is full of ignorant retards that can be manipulated with simple little words. It's getting rather old how you will NEVER open up your fragile little mind to what THE REAL WORLD is.
Yep, that's what I sure do... Like I said, you can only argue with assumptions in the end. I disagree with you on a few issues: BAM "I hate you". BTW, I don't get my news from the United States at all. I don't watch news on the tv or read it on US news sponsored sites.
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If you use LOGIC, you can see that the world is full of manipulative, worthless pieces of absolute crap. The human race DESERVES what is comming. We deserve a nuclear holocaust because of IGNORANT RETARDS. If the world wasn't so ignorant, we wouldn't have wars at all. But guess what? THERE ARE.
What is funny is that you think we're on verge of a nuclear holocaust. Yeah, there are a bunch of b@stards/biatches in the world but not everyone is like that. If you think the way you do, how do you trust anyone? (just wondering).
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Didn't use the words Crusade? Better go back to some of his earliest speeches fool.
Lol, then give me some direct quotes or shud up
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Hey! I didn't know that you could read minds! Good job! Continue to read my mind, because you just know exactly what I'm thinking. I never knew you had such powers. That's totally AWESOME! Hell yeah!
Get my point? You can't even FATHOM why I dispise Bush and hate America right now because you're to damn brainwashed by conservative BULLcrap.
But I'm just a deranged conspiracy theorist, so my arguments are not plausible.
Get my point? You can't even FATHOM why I dispise Bush and hate America right now because you're to damn brainwashed by conservative BULLcrap.
But I'm just a deranged conspiracy theorist, so my arguments are not plausible.
I don't knock off everything you say because you are a conspiracy theorist, I knock off some things you have to say because some of them are filled in a web of half/mutalated truths and alternative history/assumptions that can't be proven.
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Kellimus, I see how you think now. The only problem I see is that you think everyone is out to get someone else. Everyone is out just for their own personal gain and humanity can never help eachother. Am I right?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-05-20 at 14:09:42
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Didn't Nixon promise that soon as he got into office, he would pull them out? How long did it take him? That's what I thought, now shut up.
Lol, who sent in all the troops in the first place? Who wanted POWER by the Gulf of Tonkin resolution? WHO WHO WHO.
A DEMOCRAT(s) started putting troops in Vietnam, a Republican pulled the troops out! Get that in your head your state of thinking on this matter DOES NOT WORK, and contradicts your far earlier statement.
Oh and by the way show me where he promised to pull them out fast. As I recall he did pull them out slowly but surely until the last man left....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-20 at 19:42:41
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Lol, who sent in all the troops in the first place? Who wanted POWER by the Gulf of Tonkin resolution? WHO WHO WHO.
A DEMOCRAT(s) started putting troops in Vietnam, a Republican pulled the troops out! Get that in your head your state of thinking on this matter DOES NOT WORK, and contradicts your far earlier statement.
Oh and by the way show me where he promised to pull them out fast. As I recall he did pull them out slowly but surely until the last man left....
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A DEMOCRAT(s) started putting troops in Vietnam, a Republican pulled the troops out! Get that in your head your state of thinking on this matter DOES NOT WORK, and contradicts your far earlier statement.
Oh and by the way show me where he promised to pull them out fast. As I recall he did pull them out slowly but surely until the last man left....
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Look at History, smart one.
Which side of the political table has had the most encounters with other nations that deal with hostile acts? Republicans.
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Kellimus, I see how you think now. The only problem I see is that you think everyone is out to get someone else. Everyone is out just for their own personal gain and humanity can never help eachother. Am I right?
Only corrupt politicians. Which is all our country is.