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Just because when someone is little and sees their gay parents kiss or whatever doesn't mean they will be gay.

Do you think Hannibal the Cannibal grew up watching his parents eat people left and right?

Do you think Jack the Ripper grew up watching his parents kill people and just then and there, at the age of 8, decide to be a psycho when he grew up?? I doubt it.

You are born however you are born. You are born gay or a mass murderer(in this case with unbalanced brain chemicals). You don't become it unless by choice.

I say it's fine if people want to be gay. Let them, it's not your life and you don't have to concern yourself with it. And they should be able to adopt regardless of their sexual orientation.

And I agree with Nozumu, now that I see something new: What does how wrong or right gay being is have to do with marriage?

Oh, you still haven't come up with an answer to why we allow sterile people to get married. Just to remind you tongue.gif .

"No evidence ? go take a simple high school biology class. There is plenty of evidence. What the bleep does killing billions of people have to do with the meaning of life or homosexuality ? nothing. "
I'm in Middle School right now.
And what evidence is there about the meaning of life, why we all exist, being to reproduce, that is taught in high school bioloy that you can't say right here? Say it here, please, I want to see how stupid, or possibly extremely intelligent, new, and revolutionary it is to my mind.

Because there are many reason why people get married.

Hmm lets see here, not one thing in this universe has some devine reasoning its all an accident.

But since life did accidentlaty start (further disscusion in another thread) it made its main purpose to suivive to continue the species pass on genes ect ect. We all know you cant continue the species without reproduction so thus by simple deductive reasoning 'to reproduce is the meaning of life'.

GAY MARRIAGE IS NO NO NO!  Men have  es not to go up other men's asses but to go up women's  s, not meaning to be nasty or anything but it's the bare truth, same with girls..

Ya I thought so, and you didn't even answer the question dumb  .  So that's like spam.

Let's say that gay is a virus. Someone has caught the gay. You don't just sit on your ass and let the gay take over your entire body. What do you do? You find some way of getting rid of it. Whether it be psychology, crossing out pictures of men like they guy does in jail on Half Baked, a nice, swift beating, or taking away advantages for them, i.e. marriage, adoption. Ahhh!! It turns out that you can catch gay from being around gay people! Pretty soon nobody does anything but spreads the gay in people's asses and the whole population turns gay. The end of the human race is right around the corner. All because people allowed gay marriage...

Let's say that gay is a virus.  Someone has caught the gay.  You don't just sit on your ass and let the gay take over your entire body.  What do you do?  You find some way of getting rid of it.  Whether it be psychology, crossing out pictures of men like they guy does in jail on Half Baked, a nice, swift beating, or taking away advantages for them, i.e. marriage, adoption.  Ahhh!!  It turns out that you can catch gay from being around gay people!  Pretty soon nobody does anything but spreads the gay in people's asses and the whole population turns gay.  The end of the human race is right around the corner.  All because people allowed gay marriage...

I don't know what I'm aiming for here, but think of this as something smart that I said.

An Op-Ed piece in Tuesday's (12/17/91) New York Times, reprinted without permission:

Are some people born gay?
By Michael Bailey and Richard Pillard
Science is rapidly converging on the conclusion that sexual orientation is innate. It has found that homosexuals often act differently from heterosexuals in early childhood, before they have even heard of sex. A recent study by Simon LeVay, a neurobiologist at the Salk Institute, reported a difference in the hypothalamus, a part of the brain that develops at a young age, between homosexual and heterosexual men.

If true, a biological explanation is good news for homosexuals and their advocates.

Our own research has shown that male sexual orientation is substantially genetic. Over the last two years, we have studied the rates of homosexuality in identical and non-identical twin brothers of gay men, as well as adoptive brothers of gay men. Fifty-two percent of the identical twin brothers were gay, as against 22 percent of non-identical twins and 11 percent of the adoptive, genetically unrelated brothers.

In contrast, research on social factors has been fruitless. [:-)...rjw] Despite many attempts, there has been no clear demonstration that parental behavior, even a parent's homosexuality, affects children's sexual orientation. Cultures tolerant of homosexuals do not appear to raise more of them than do less permissive societies.

Homophobes sometimes justify their prejudice against homosexuals by alleging that homosexuality is contagious -- that young homosexuals become that way because of older homosexuals and that homosexuality is a social corruption. Such beliefs form the core of the organized anti-homosexual movement. If homosexuality is largely innate, this would prove that these claims are groundless.

Given these implications, it may seem surprising that the biological studies disturb many gay and lesbian advocates. Misunderstanding them, the advocates often suggest that the search for a biological cause is motivated by an assumption that homosexuality is an illness. Behavioral scientists, however, have long searched for biological underpinnings of traits such as extraversion and intelligence, which no one considers to be negative. Furthermore, a biological explanation of homosexuality simultaneously explains heterosexuality.

This leads to a more pertinent fear of gays and lesbians, that people will assume that answers to moral questions hinge on the results of scientific study. Should a benevolent view of homosexuality depend on the assumption that it is innate? Are gays and lesbians to be tolerated only if they are "born that way"?

Regardless of what causes sexual orientation, there is no plausible justification for oppressing homosexuals. Reasons that have long been offered -- that homosexuals disproportionately molest children, convert heterosexuals to homsexuality, are mentally ill, betray their country -- have been shown to be false.

But homophobia remains the one form of bigotry that respectable people can express in public. If the long-overdue national debate on homosexuality took place, the poverty of the anti-homosexual case would become readily apparent.

If scientific study of the origins of sexual orientation would not directly resolve the public issue, why do it?

First, in can inform public debate. But equally important is the value of discovery, particularly self-discovery. A gay man with a heterosexual identical twin, both of whom we studied, put it this way: "I accepted being gay years ago, so that's not why I want to know. But sexual orientation is such an important part of my life -- anyone's life -- that I'm still curious why I turned out gay and my brother straight." How could anyone not be curious?

Michael Bailey is assistant professor of psychology at Northwestern University. Richard Pillard is associate professor of psychiatry at Boston University School of Medicine.

Reproduction is simply a mechenism to continue a species. Nothing more, nothing less. Are you saying that sterile couples no longer have a purpose to life because they are unable to reproduce?

The meaning to life is subjective concept that we humans tend to give ourselves. I hope you don't feel that once you give birth to a kid and raise him, there is no longer anything worth living for.

Maybe you didnt fully read my other posts but I clearly said this was not fully the case with humans.

if homosexuality is natural then whats the point of having males/females?

if there r homosexuals that think that the whole world should be homosexual then would they support cloning?