Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-05-21 at 09:30:09
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This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while.
-- George W. Bush, using a loaded term which recalls the Christians' Medieval wars against Muslims in the so-called Holy Land, after stepping off the presidential helicopter on Sunday, September 16, 2001, quoted from Jonathan Lyons, "Bush enters Mideast's rhetorical minefield " (Reuters: September 21, 2001). Bush later apologized for this remark.
-- George W. Bush, using a loaded term which recalls the Christians' Medieval wars against Muslims in the so-called Holy Land, after stepping off the presidential helicopter on Sunday, September 16, 2001, quoted from Jonathan Lyons, "Bush enters Mideast's rhetorical minefield " (Reuters: September 21, 2001). Bush later apologized for this remark.
QUOTE(positiveatheism.org)
God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them.
-- George W. Bush, according to Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, from minutes acquired by Haaretz from cease-fire negotiations between Abbas and faction leaders from the Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular and Democratic Fronts (circa June, 2003)
-- George W. Bush, according to Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, from minutes acquired by Haaretz from cease-fire negotiations between Abbas and faction leaders from the Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular and Democratic Fronts (circa June, 2003)
Here you go, Stalingrad.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dark_lunatic_K on 2006-05-21 at 13:01:27
You guys have turned this topic into a whole different one. Concentrate on Iran, please.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-05-21 at 14:25:37
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This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while.
-- George W. Bush, using a loaded term which recalls the Christians' Medieval wars against Muslims in the so-called Holy Land, after stepping off the presidential helicopter on Sunday, September 16, 2001, quoted from Jonathan Lyons, "Bush enters Mideast's rhetorical minefield " (Reuters: September 21, 2001). Bush later apologized for this remark.
-- George W. Bush, using a loaded term which recalls the Christians' Medieval wars against Muslims in the so-called Holy Land, after stepping off the presidential helicopter on Sunday, September 16, 2001, quoted from Jonathan Lyons, "Bush enters Mideast's rhetorical minefield " (Reuters: September 21, 2001). Bush later apologized for this remark.
As I said, it was meant to be used in the context of a struggle. The comments after the quote in the text above are obviously written by someone who is willing to twist and manipulate words to make atheism look better in comparison to all religions, a kind of "see the kind of shiz that happens when you are religious".
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God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them.
-- George W. Bush, according to Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, from minutes acquired by Haaretz from cease-fire negotiations between Abbas and faction leaders from the Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular and Democratic Fronts (circa June, 2003)
-- George W. Bush, according to Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, from minutes acquired by Haaretz from cease-fire negotiations between Abbas and faction leaders from the Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular and Democratic Fronts (circa June, 2003)
It's still not a holy war. If this is even true (because someone else said Bush said it) it's a pure political move. For a country with a majority of Christians who start to think you're wrong or even hated you from the start, how do you get the ignorant ones to see things your way and as the right thing to do? Tell them God told you to do it.
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Only corrupt politicians. Which is all our country is.
Let me try to get this right Kellimus. You think that just because someone has a little power they have to be corrupt and steal money/get other people killed for their personal gain?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-05-21 at 17:52:49
QUOTE(Kellimus @ May 20 2006, 03:42 PM)
Look at History, smart one.
Which side of the political table has had the most encounters with other nations that deal with hostile acts? Republicans.
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Which side of the political table has had the most encounters with other nations that deal with hostile acts? Republicans.
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Still won't admit defeat...
also Stalingrade:
About Kellimus (so far based on your posts):
Rich people = alll bad and corrupt and conservative
Conservative = bad
Religion = bad/corrupt
Any authority = bad and corrupt
All the above are out to get you!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-05-21 at 18:04:11
QUOTE(Stalingrad @ May 21 2006, 02:25 PM)
As I said, it was meant to be used in the context of a struggle. The comments after the quote in the text above are obviously written by someone who is willing to twist and manipulate words to make atheism look better in comparison to all religions, a kind of "see the kind of shiz that happens when you are religious".
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I personally don't believe that the 'war on terror' is a religious war. I just provided the quotes to show that he DID call it a crusade. And in my opinion, that was bad move, because even if it wasn't meant to mean a religious struggle, it still carries that connotation.
Anyway, back to Iran...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-05-21 at 19:34:43
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I personally don't believe that the 'war on terror' is a religious war. I just provided the quotes to show that he DID call it a crusade. And in my opinion, that was bad move, because even if it wasn't meant to mean a religious struggle, it still carries that connotation.
I agree it was a bad move, I just don't like people calling it a religious war because the word crusade was mentioned.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-05-21 at 20:56:33
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I agree it was a bad move, I just don't like people calling it a religious war because the word crusade was mentioned.
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Same, you don't see any of our Army service saying before battle "Christ is Great, Christ is Great, Christ is Great"
refering to the Islamic Jihad (Allah Akbar) if I spelled that right.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dark_lunatic_K on 2006-05-22 at 01:54:02
Allah Akbar means god is great. Lol, Stal, Daddy are two of the biggest politicians EVER! Lets take a vote for who would make a better president.
Type '1' if you want Daddy as pres.
Type '2' if you want Stal as pres.
Vote, vote, vote!
Type '1' if you want Daddy as pres.
Type '2' if you want Stal as pres.
Vote, vote, vote!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-05-22 at 11:47:31
>>>Topic Locked for being very off topic.