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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2004-08-11 at 16:19:49
Funny how a serious thread like this is made by someone named "BritneySpearsHater"....

Anyway, evolution is still a theory so I'll stick to my religion k thnx.

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-08-11 at 17:18:44
QUOTE(feiteng @ Aug 11 2004, 02:18 PM)
Oh ok does using false evidence in an arguement make you a better arguer. I can't use evidence because a lot of things havn't been proven yet. But with current findings evolutions looks unlikely. Why? Well have they found the "in-between" stages of evolving yet? No they don't and evolution supposedly take generations meaning hundreds of years and if all we find are whole species than there are no in-between steps and thus no evolution.

we have found in between stages. have you seen the prehuman animals[umm..whatever other word i could use]? their skeletons slowly changed into what we look like now. and how am I using false evidence. everything i say is backed up by science.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by weirdone2 on 2004-08-11 at 20:19:34
Theory- Many billion years ago two planets rammed into each other and pieces of these planets collected into a big ball and formed into earth. After all this destruction and after the dust surrouding the planet calmed down life was made possible and eventually the life forms evolved up to us. In this theory life was created and evolved. wink.gif I think I missed some of the parts in this theory though my memory isn't all that great. But i got the basics down. cheers.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Battleaxe3 on 2004-08-12 at 02:32:29
Neither man, Im a big fan of the BIG BANG theory! Ima sucker for stupid science explantions of things!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2004-08-15 at 04:49:17
QUOTE(Battleaxe3 @ Aug 12 2004, 01:32 AM)
Neither man, Im a big fan of the BIG BANG theory!  Ima sucker for stupid science explantions of things!

The Big Bang theory contradicts the theory of relativity... Matter created from nothing doesn't make sense.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by linux_junkie on 2004-08-15 at 23:09:15
The Big Bang theory does not contradict the theory of relativity. In fact, the theory of relativity is the main reason why the Big Bang is believed by so many. If you do the math, General Relativity predicts the Big Bang as an occurance.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-08-15 at 23:10:54
can we drop this? linux junkie just pwns you guys anyway.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2004-08-16 at 01:14:43
QUOTE(Revelade @ Aug 15 2004, 03:49 AM)
The Big Bang theory contradicts the theory of relativity... Matter created from nothing doesn't make sense.

The Big Bang Theory does not say that matter came from nothing. That would go against the Conservation of matter law. According to Big Bang theory the universe was once very dense and extremely compact then that matter expanded at a rate faster than light. So the matter was already there, we do not know where that ball of matter came from though there are several theories.

One theory by Hawking is that another universe and a anti-universe (anti-matter filled) collided at a single point. That single point is theorized tobe the origin of our universe and the blast point of the 'Big bang'.

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"Nothingness" is something we can't comprehend so stop saying it has been proven because no one has ever expirienced "Nothingness".


you dont have to experience "nothingness" to comprehend it. It is quite simply a state where 'nothing' exist.


See the convienence with 'God' is that he is such a opnipotent and all powerful figure that he cannot truly be proven or disproven.

Something i've heard quite frequently - "Man evolved from apes" "then why are there still apes around" One way of looking at it is that humans are simply a sub species of the primate, even creatures in the same genetic family do not evolve the same way. 64 million years ago there were no apes of any kind they evolved from other mammals. In time the first ape mutation was born, it was neither chimpanzee,orangutan,gorilla or human. Over time though as this ape mutation populated and traveled/migrated to different regions different species of this ape evolved. Through dietary changes which involed more meat the first Homo Erectus evolved.
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But with current findings evolutions looks unlikely. Why? Well have they found the "in-between" stages of evolving yet? No they don't and evolution supposedly take generations meaning hundreds of years and if all we find are whole species than there are no in-between steps and thus no evolution.


havent looked in the news or a science magazine lately have you ? these 'in-between' stages are being found all the time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kenoli on 2004-08-16 at 04:20:41
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black holes exist? yes? well supposdly, black holes are just a point that you can travel through to another place (a rip). and then there are things called white holes that spit them out. now if we add 1+1 together, then it somewhat shows that balck holes ===>white holes. this is hardly proof but at least its' some evidence.


Black holes are gravity wells that pull everything in, not even light can escape them(thats why they appear as a black void). They have extreme mass but take up little space. When matter gets sucked into a black hole, it gets crushed in onto itself. Obviously all of this matter can't be in the exact same space, some people say it bends/warps space and the matter actually comes out of the black hole somewhere else(white wholes) This idea that it moves matter somewhere else somehow is just plain stupid. The only thing that is fast enough to escape the pull of a black hole are X-rays, Matter goes in, X-rays come out. I forgot exactly what makes a black hole form.

err whats this topic about...
oh yeah, creation...

Heres what i think:
Everything evolves from lesser creatures, usually they get bigger and better so that they can dominate the smaller and weaker ones. Things dont just evolve in a line, they go out in all directions, usually starting with a mutation of some sort, if it help the creature to survive, that creature will probably be able to reproduce, and that will create more and more if the better type.
But, If the mutation dosent help the creature, or it hurts it, that creature will probably be killed off. Usually when things get larger they are more fit to survive.
Why would fish want to walk on land? They dont. But being able to walk helps them reach food that other ones cant get to, also it may help them escape from danger that other cant escape from. So more and more of the better ones will survive, possibly even killing the weaker ones. There could have been other mutations (or evolutions) That made the fish weaker/slower/stupid, this retarted fish could be killed by things that the normal ones could easly survive. The fish would probably never reproduce. Only the strong survive. (ever heard that before?) This is what you might call evolution. Yes its very slow, it could take many, many generations for a mutation to occur, and it may be something as small as different colored eyes, or something major, like an extra finger/toe (extra digits happen often in alot of animals)


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But with current findings evolutions looks unlikely. Why? Well have they found the "in-between" stages of evolving yet? No they don't and evolution supposedly take generations meaning hundreds of years and if all we find are whole species than there are no in-between steps and thus no evolution.

No 'in-between'? Maybe your blind or you were not thinking about what you said. Like some people said already: there are lots of such creatures all over the world
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