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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-11-09 at 18:31:21
I don't beleive in Time, nor Alternate Dimensions.
Time is a misconception.
Alternate Dimensions only exist because String Theory cannot work without them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-11-09 at 19:33:00
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You're 100% sure someday we can go back in time and we can travel out of dimensions?


I'm just curious as to how you came to that question. Care to explain?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-09 at 19:42:33
It's Neiji. That is how he is tongue.gif

Why has this discussion turned into Time, and Alternate Dimensions? Is this not about The Bible??
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-11-09 at 20:09:55
In reply to your question, Kellimus.
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It's Neiji. That is how he is
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-11-09 at 21:13:44
Right now I'm watching this Trading Spouses episode on Fox, and it has this religious fanatic mom and it's pretty disturbing how obsessed with god she is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-11-10 at 01:05:12
she is gonna die old and as boring as the life she led... because she believed in the false truth that god exists.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-10 at 05:08:31
QUOTE(Cronus @ Nov 9 2005, 04:24 PM)
My comments are directed at all Religions, not just Christianity.
Yes, I am 100% confident all religion will be proven wrong eventually.
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So you're saying, that billions of people, will be proven wrong? Oooooooookay....

QUOTE(Euro @ Nov 9 2005, 11:05 PM)
she is gonna die old and as boring as the life she led... because she believed in the false truth that god exists.
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-_- I thought you were smarter than to say stupid ass shiz like that.

Plus, it's a fallacy, too ^_^

Just because she believes in God, does not mean that her life is boring, so why say stupid ass shiz like that? Like I said earlier, I thought you were smarter than that -_-

And let me try to understand your reasoning. You are saying, that because I believe in God, that i'm boring? What????

And you should not have the right to diss on people, because your views are different. You perceive God to be fake, we perceive him to be real.

Don't make me start saying crap about perception again... Ugh...

Screw it

NO ONE can change ANYONE'S PERCEPTION of something because PERCEPTION literally means, to grasp, or to achieve an understanding.

That is like me telling you to change how you understand something, because you don't understand it the way I do.



It's farking retarded to do it, so just stop already.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-11-10 at 05:39:06
yeah euro you shouldnt say stuff isnt true if you dont know for 100% and dont tell me you know it as a fact because it has not been proven. that is YOUR opinion not a fact.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Aikanaro on 2005-11-10 at 09:01:19
QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Nov 10 2005, 05:39 AM)
yeah euro you shouldnt say stuff isnt true if you dont know for 100% and dont tell me you know it as a fact because it has not been proven. that is YOUR opinion not a fact.
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But you see, Its not been Proven to be true either, Then why believe in it? If you need an Imaginary friend, Think of the Flying Spaghetti Monster eh? If it makes you feel good to have some Imaginary fellow to ...errr...Dictate your life (Rofl).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-11-10 at 09:26:30
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So you're saying, that billions of people, will be proven wrong? Oooooooookay....

*Coughtheworldisflatcough*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-11-10 at 11:46:15
Hell, Chrisitnaity has to be the most unreasonable religion ever. Thhe Bible is a bunch of myths that they take too seriously. I mean, some Christians are okay, but Christianity is full of hate against other religions, more so than a lot of more reasonable eastern philosophy/religions. Chrsitians don't believe , mostly, in the spearation o chruch and state or religion and science. They take their worldview as the best, when it is no more valid than others. Plus, they don't accept that religion is just a philosophy and the Bible is just illustrative myths, they believe that it is realy what happenend and it is scientifically provable.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-11-10 at 13:32:23
QUOTE(Loser_Musician @ Nov 9 2005, 04:31 PM)
Stop trying to run from the debate.

Everyone, go look at posts #151 and #156, and then look at the responses to them.  disgust.gif
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QUOTE(Neiji @ Nov 9 2005, 06:15 PM)
ADDITION:
Oh, how the tables have turned.
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Tables turning does not answer posts #151 and #156.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-11-10 at 16:42:09
QUOTE(Aikanaro @ Nov 10 2005, 08:01 AM)
But you see, Its not been Proven to be true either, Then why believe in it? If you need an Imaginary friend, Think of the Flying Spaghetti Monster eh? If it makes you feel good to have some Imaginary fellow to ...errr...Dictate your life (Rofl).
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Hmm, just like you said that someone could say your better to be safe than sorry. (In the event of God actually existing, you served a devote life and ascend at the endtimes. vs. life full of sin and shady doings, to be plunged in to the fiery depths of hell at the endtimes.) I prefer to choose option 1.

QUOTE(Cronus @ Nov 10 2005, 08:26 AM)
*Coughtheworldisflatcough*
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There are still people who believe the world is flat.

See here for details.

Although they're getting harder and harder pressed to prove themselves.

QUOTE(Dr.Shotgun @ Nov 10 2005, 10:46 AM)
Hell, Chrisitnaity has to be the most unreasonable religion ever. Thhe Bible is a bunch of myths that they take too seriously. I mean, some Christians are okay, but Christianity is full of hate against other religions, more so than a lot of more reasonable eastern philosophy/religions. Chrsitians don't believe , mostly, in the spearation o chruch and state or religion and science. They take their worldview as the best, when it is no more valid than others. Plus, they don't accept that religion is just a philosophy and the Bible is just illustrative myths, they believe that it is realy what happenend and it is scientifically provable.
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You obviously know nothing about christianity. We preach forgiveness and morals, not absolute servatude.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-11-10 at 16:58:49
Perhaps I am a complete ignoramus. But from an outide perspective, Christianity's track record is not good. To be fair, its mainly the fundamentalists that are the problem.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Aikanaro on 2005-11-10 at 16:58:52
QUOTE(Syphon @ Nov 10 2005, 04:42 PM)
Hmm, just like you said that someone could say your better to be safe than sorry. (In the event of God actually existing, you served a devote life and ascend at the endtimes. vs. life full of sin and shady doings, to be plunged in to the fiery depths of hell at the endtimes.) I prefer to choose option 1.
There are still people who believe the world is flat.

See here for details.

Although they're getting harder and harder pressed to prove themselves.
You obviously know nothing about christianity. We preach forgiveness and morals, not absolute servatude.
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Huh...Ya? Check this Site, I Agree Completely with Dr.Shotgun, This Link is to a Christian Clan Forum. Its EVERYTHING Dr.Shotgun described. One of them said, This is quoted "If the Bible said Jonah swallowed a whale, I'd believe it!".

The Link to the forum is here: http://s3.invisionfree.com/TeamSoC/index.php?showtopic=8529
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-11-10 at 17:33:53
I don't believe 100% of the God's creation of the world. Nobody was there to prove it. I believe in God and how he was described in the Bible. I think the rest was just exaggerations...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-11-10 at 17:55:38
The point is, anything can be taken methaphoriclly or symbolicly, or interpreted, as anything. Some people agrued that Poseidon and Athena were split-personalities of Odysseus, but in the time the Gods were not symbolic of such things, they were, plain and simply, the Gods. See the point?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-11-10 at 22:22:27
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Hell, Chrisitnaity has to be the most unreasonable religion ever. Thhe Bible is a bunch of myths that they take too seriously. I mean, some Christians are okay, but Christianity is full of hate against other religions, more so than a lot of more reasonable eastern philosophy/religions. Chrsitians don't believe , mostly, in the spearation o chruch and state or religion and science. They take their worldview as the best, when it is no more valid than others. Plus, they don't accept that religion is just a philosophy and the Bible is just illustrative myths, they believe that it is realy what happenend and it is scientifically provable.


Well you are just saying that because Christianity is one of the worlds largest religions and there are many differnt types of christians with differnt beliefs. Since we live in the western hemisphere, where most of the christians live you are inclined to say that christianity is a hate religion. If you were however on the other side of the world you would say that maybe hinduism, buddism, or islam are hate religions. Dont sterotype like that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-11-10 at 22:37:14
I even hate how everybody stereotypes another person. Like atheists think christians must get 2 stages down in the IQ levels. I even hate how Christians stereotype athesits. We all have different beliefs, just respect them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-11-11 at 01:07:15
QUOTE(Dr.Shotgun @ Nov 10 2005, 10:46 AM)
Hell, Chrisitnaity has to be the most unreasonable religion ever. Thhe Bible is a bunch of myths that they take too seriously. I mean, some Christians are okay, but Christianity is full of hate against other religions, more so than a lot of more reasonable eastern philosophy/religions. Chrsitians don't believe , mostly, in the spearation o chruch and state or religion and science. They take their worldview as the best, when it is no more valid than others. Plus, they don't accept that religion is just a philosophy and the Bible is just illustrative myths, they believe that it is realy what happenend and it is scientifically provable.
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It's Muslims and Jews that hate other religions, not Christians. Well, maybe fundamentalists as you said in your later post, but still, not to the same extent as the Muslims and Jews.

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Well you are just saying that because Christianity is one of the worlds largest religions and there are many differnt types of christians with differnt beliefs. Since we live in the western hemisphere, where most of the christians live you are inclined to say that christianity is a hate religion. If you were however on the other side of the world you would say that maybe hinduism, buddism, or islam are hate religions. Dont sterotype like that.

Christianity isn't really the world's largest religion. It is one of the faster growing ones (islam is the fastest). But religious apathy (as in people just dont care anymore or aren't serious about their religion) tops it all.
The United States and Australia i believe are the only countries in the world which there are more protestants than Catholics. So ultimately, when most people around the world think of christianity, they think of catholicism.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-11-11 at 06:10:05
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Well you are just saying that because Christianity is one of the worlds largest religions and there are many differnt types of christians with differnt beliefs.


ONE of the worlds largest religions
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-11-11 at 22:22:27
QUOTE(MiLlEnNiUmArMy @ Nov 11 2005, 01:07 AM)
It's Muslims and Jews that hate other religions, not Christians. Well, maybe fundamentalists as you said in your later post, but still, not to the same extent as the Muslims and Jews.
Christianity isn't really the world's largest religion. It is one of the faster growing ones (islam is the fastest). But religious apathy (as in people just dont care anymore or aren't serious about their religion) tops it all.
The United States and Australia i believe are the only countries in the world which there are more protestants than Catholics. So ultimately, when most people around the world think of christianity, they think of catholicism.
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Besides that it IS the world's largest religion.

Christianity - 2 billion followers.

Muslim - 1 billion followers.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-11-13 at 15:05:33
Christianity isn't a religion. Christianity is a group of religions, some of which vastly hate eachother. So it would be wrong to say that christianity has 2 billion followers.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-11-13 at 15:55:14
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Nov 13 2005, 03:05 PM)
Christianity isn't a religion. Christianity is a group of religions, some of which vastly hate eachother. So it would be wrong to say that christianity has 2 billion followers.
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Just catholicism hates the others, and even then they have about a million followers by themselves.

@Millenium, jews and muslims do not hate others religions by default, stop being prejudice.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-11-13 at 17:57:40
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Nov 13 2005, 03:05 PM)
Christianity isn't a religion. Christianity is a group of religions, some of which vastly hate eachother. So it would be wrong to say that christianity has 2 billion followers.
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I see what you're getting at, but christianity is NOT a group of religions. The "groups of religions" are called sects.
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