Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheatEnabled on 2006-12-11 at 14:55:43
QUOTE(Tuxedo Templar @ Dec 10 2006, 11:09 PM)
Too vague? Well I'm just thinking back to DotA's use of powerups, which seemed to work pretty well.
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Whatever you do, don't make this map anything like DotA. That will ruin it completely, making it a cheap copy of DotA.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2006-12-11 at 17:32:06
I don't plan to. But items aren't exactly unique to even DotA. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Psychic_Genius on 2006-12-13 at 02:41:35
nice map, i tested. Definitly its a perfect work.
Can you add me to tester list plz? i mean in credits
Have a nice day
Can you add me to tester list plz? i mean in credits
Have a nice day
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2006-12-13 at 02:48:39
I thought I did? I'll double check...
Thanks for the missile test, though. But believe me, you haven't seen the real map yet. Even still, it's far from perfect, though.
Thanks for the missile test, though. But believe me, you haven't seen the real map yet. Even still, it's far from perfect, though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Psychic_Genius on 2006-12-13 at 02:51:11
o really? damn why you tell me that!? now i will need to change my pants again, cause i just crap on myself. And if i wear something else, samething will happen, i probably be naked until the map is revealed!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KABOOM on 2006-12-13 at 15:44:59
QUOTE(Tuxedo Templar @ Nov 18 2006, 01:35 AM)
Currently, to finish this map I badly need to get the balance work out of the way. If anyone is interested in testing, well, I'm finally ready for it. Reply if you're interested.
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Hello, I'll do it
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zell.Dincht on 2006-12-13 at 18:15:40
This map looks awesome. Cant wait to its released.
Cant wait to its released.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2006-12-14 at 00:16:42
Ok Kaboom I'll add you. But tester slots are closed from now on. Think I have enough people to work with.
Progress Report: Got my page long checklist of tweaks and fixes polished off. Almost. The spawners are now giving me trouble, as thanks to Starcraft's loving pathfinding AI I'm having to babysit the units to reach their destination. Again making me wish I'd done this map horizontally.
Oh well. I'll manage.
Other than that, I've finished adding in a new way to move mechs in mobile mode to circumvent that annoying drag. By double selecting mobile mode in your menu, you can toggle a "pointer" unit that your mech cockpit follows (despite drag). This unit has a limited range it can move from the cockpit itself, but within that range it can move free of drag. I'm trying to manage a way to make it both cloaked and blinded, so that it won't be of any real scouting or diversionary use.
Fun.
Progress Report: Got my page long checklist of tweaks and fixes polished off. Almost. The spawners are now giving me trouble, as thanks to Starcraft's loving pathfinding AI I'm having to babysit the units to reach their destination. Again making me wish I'd done this map horizontally.
Oh well. I'll manage.Other than that, I've finished adding in a new way to move mechs in mobile mode to circumvent that annoying drag. By double selecting mobile mode in your menu, you can toggle a "pointer" unit that your mech cockpit follows (despite drag). This unit has a limited range it can move from the cockpit itself, but within that range it can move free of drag. I'm trying to manage a way to make it both cloaked and blinded, so that it won't be of any real scouting or diversionary use.
Fun.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by purple100 on 2006-12-14 at 00:48:05
Sounds like you've made quite a bit of progress. I can't wait to see this new map appear as every other game on Battle.net lists.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by hinoatashi on 2006-12-14 at 01:39:43
The sad part is, I really don't think this will gain much popularity on battle.net
I mean, after all of the strides map makers have made to take it to the next level, people still prefer playing Golems, Madness, Simplified Defense, and RP all of the time as opposed to the greater stuff available.
I mean, after all of the strides map makers have made to take it to the next level, people still prefer playing Golems, Madness, Simplified Defense, and RP all of the time as opposed to the greater stuff available.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Psychic_Genius on 2006-12-14 at 01:46:52
Missles work incredibly probably this map will be another success
probably this map will be another successReport, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2006-12-14 at 02:24:04
QUOTE(hinoatashi @ Dec 14 2006, 01:39 AM)
The sad part is, I really don't think this will gain much popularity on battle.net
I mean, after all of the strides map makers have made to take it to the next level, people still prefer playing Golems, Madness, Simplified Defense, and RP all of the time as opposed to the greater stuff available.
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I mean, after all of the strides map makers have made to take it to the next level, people still prefer playing Golems, Madness, Simplified Defense, and RP all of the time as opposed to the greater stuff available.
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Feh to them. If they were the reason I made maps, you think I'd have done half the stuff I've done thus far?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TRiGGaMaSTa on 2006-12-14 at 02:30:59
QUOTE(Tuxedo Templar @ Dec 14 2006, 01:24 AM)
Feh to them. If they were the reason I made maps, you think I'd have done half the stuff I've done thus far?
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Amen to that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moogle on 2006-12-14 at 03:13:52
QUOTE(hinoatashi @ Dec 14 2006, 05:39 PM)
The sad part is, I really don't think this will gain much popularity on battle.net
I mean, after all of the strides map makers have made to take it to the next level, people still prefer playing Golems, Madness, Simplified Defense, and RP all of the time as opposed to the greater stuff available.
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I mean, after all of the strides map makers have made to take it to the next level, people still prefer playing Golems, Madness, Simplified Defense, and RP all of the time as opposed to the greater stuff available.
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Most people want populariy, Others dont. Rather make complex map which he/she will enjoy, not always what public wants. Not our fault public stupid and cant work out complex maps and rather play basic maps.
QUOTE(Tuxedo Templar @ Dec 14 2006, 06:24 PM)
Feh to them. If they were the reason I made maps, you think I'd have done half the stuff I've done thus far?
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Indeed as Triggamasta said, Amen to that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheatEnabled on 2006-12-14 at 11:22:01
QUOTE(hinoatashi @ Dec 14 2006, 07:39 AM)
The sad part is, I really don't think this will gain much popularity on battle.net
I mean, after all of the strides map makers have made to take it to the next level, people still prefer playing Golems, Madness, Simplified Defense, and RP all of the time as opposed to the greater stuff available.
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I mean, after all of the strides map makers have made to take it to the next level, people still prefer playing Golems, Madness, Simplified Defense, and RP all of the time as opposed to the greater stuff available.
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Someone should change that. And also, I've seen lately that people are getting bored with madnesses, golems and defences. RPs are not much out there anyways. Yesterday evening I even saw a guy on B.net playing Labyrinthos RPG.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dark_Marine_123 on 2006-12-14 at 17:46:31
QUOTE(TRiGGaMaSTa @ Dec 14 2006, 02:30 AM)
Amen to that.
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Another again, Amen brother.
Look, RE: One by Bioject is complex right? But I see it just about every other 4 times I look for a game to play. Complex systems and people still love it.
Just, as long as the fun factor is good, it'll spread. Then you'll get your fan club and a clan that dies for your map. You know how it works.
Dude I made a map once (Good ol' Zombie Outpost for people who knew about it XDD), and this clan (all 20 of em) wouldnt stop trying to beat it.
And this map is easy enough to handle, trust me. So when do we get to test again? :D
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-12-14 at 17:55:57
I dont think map makers even care about what the pubbies think . A Good map is a good map no matter the popularity.
I'm also curious when the next testing is.
. A Good map is a good map no matter the popularity. I'm also curious when the next testing is
.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dark_Marine_123 on 2006-12-14 at 18:03:19
Hey, all the pubbies think Rush is crap cause its so large...guess your right cause I liked it and I wanna see the second one ;D
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2006-12-14 at 23:19:52
Actually I DO want to make this for the pubbies, but under a certain condition: That it's doing something fundamentally new. I just refuse to make an ordinary map, frankly, but ultimately I want a map that in spite of being extradordinary is still something people like. Of course, trying to be different and appealing to people (who usually only appreciate what they can associate with) is probably a doomed quest from the start, but hey I'm not here to win any popularity contests.
However, I've realized merely doing something technically or conceptually advanced doesn't necessarily make it good (no matter how hard you worked on it). That's why I'm pushing real hard to do it right, which is why I'm trying to simplify and friendlify (new word?) a lot of the design and interface lately (though not necessarily the gameplay), as well as balance the crap out of it. That of course is not yet done, so a lot of what you guys have seen thus far has appeared pretty rough.
Anyway, as for testing, I'm struggling to get my checklist done by the end of this week, which I might be able to do if I put on some extra speed. I'll be sending out a PM for a date, when I'm ready, and we'll meet then. I hope to do one last planning/brainstorm session then too, which'll help me finalize the plan that I have now.
However, I've realized merely doing something technically or conceptually advanced doesn't necessarily make it good (no matter how hard you worked on it). That's why I'm pushing real hard to do it right, which is why I'm trying to simplify and friendlify (new word?) a lot of the design and interface lately (though not necessarily the gameplay), as well as balance the crap out of it. That of course is not yet done, so a lot of what you guys have seen thus far has appeared pretty rough.
Anyway, as for testing, I'm struggling to get my checklist done by the end of this week, which I might be able to do if I put on some extra speed. I'll be sending out a PM for a date, when I'm ready, and we'll meet then. I hope to do one last planning/brainstorm session then too, which'll help me finalize the plan that I have now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-12-14 at 23:55:37
It better be noob friendlly then or it would take like 4 months for pubbies to get used to it and actually play it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheatEnabled on 2006-12-16 at 15:59:21
People wouldn't ever get used to it. People would think it's too hard and give up, never returning.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2006-12-18 at 00:00:46
I'll take that risk. If I don't aim to make this something for people to play, then chances are that's exactly how it won't end up. I'm tired of playing it safe with conceptual/experimental stuff.
Progress Report: Anyway, I just had a major power outage in my area, which is still going actually (you probably heard about it on the news if you live anywhere near the northwest). Therefore, I've been severely set back on my intended progress. HOPEFULLY I can still get this completed by my end of the year deadline, but I'm not counting on it anymore. Sorry for the wait on the update.
Progress Report: Anyway, I just had a major power outage in my area, which is still going actually (you probably heard about it on the news if you live anywhere near the northwest).
Therefore, I've been severely set back on my intended progress. HOPEFULLY I can still get this completed by my end of the year deadline, but I'm not counting on it anymore. Sorry for the wait on the update.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dark_Marine_123 on 2006-12-18 at 06:40:09
Don't push yourself man. We can wait lifetimes for you and your mappy 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2006-12-18 at 19:26:51
Well I can't. I'm overdue as is. I'll be doing some heavy work on it throughout the week, which might include some sporadic feature testing. I'm entering a new territory now where I'll be adding in some of the 'fun' stuff, so the polish should go through the roof pretty soon. I think you'll like it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dark_Marine_123 on 2006-12-18 at 19:36:30
Oh goodie :D
Fun things are always good in a map ;D
Fun things are always good in a map ;D