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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-24 at 18:45:48
it's not just bound to books. It's applied to all forms of writing/art/visual creations/whatnot. Just because it happens to be on the internet where copyright laws still apply, does not mean it doesn't count.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-24 at 18:54:57
If copyright laws still reigned, I, along with the rest of the world, would be in prison for copyright infringement.

Sorry, you lose.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-24 at 19:11:39
^ Do you even know what a copyright law does now a days? Thought so. Sorry, you lose for not having a clue about giving credit where credit is due and how it plays a role in this day and age.

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If copyright laws still reigned, I, along with the rest of the world, would be in prison for copyright infringement.


Oh really?

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-24 at 19:14:27
To bad those Ad Hocs really show how smart you are.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-24 at 19:18:19
See, like I have said before, you like to flame more rather than address the issues.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-24 at 19:20:52
If what I said was a flame, this was a troll + flame:
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Do you even know what a copyright law does now a days? Thought so. Sorry, you lose for not having a clue about giving credit where credit is due and how it plays a role in this day and age.


Just because I point out the truth and hurt your feelings, doesn't make it a flame, nitwit.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-24 at 19:30:12
Amazing how you think you have an impact on my emotions on a forum where I can not even see you face to face. (If you have affected me yet in anyway I would have reported you already but I haven't, not once).

You have yet to provide any information to defend your case except "I am right and you are wrong".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-04-24 at 23:31:32
QUOTE(BeeR_KeG @ Apr 23 2006, 08:28 AM)
I believe that this source of information is wrong. A few weeks ago, I saw a program on the History Channel about a Russian General who went to visit Iran's Nuclear Program and to give advice about it, to both Iran and the countries concerned about this. His estimates showed that Iran isn't capable of producing an atomic weapon during the next 20 years.
They have produced enriched Uranium, which is the first step, but they have so little that it wouldn't produce a nuclear reaction, and that the countrie's economy can't produce enough surplus to produce those amounts of enriched Uranium.

And the fact that the Irani goverment says that the Nuclear Program is for fuel makes perfect sense. Iran doesn't have a large amount or petrolium, like Iraq, Kuwait or Saudi Arabia. This means that Iran would no longer need to consume vast quantities of Petrolium, instead, it can export it, compete with the major petrolium exporters of the world, and most of all, make profit for it's economy.

Also, Israel has no right to mobilize it's Armed Forces just because some scientist made a little bit of Enriched Uranium. If this was the fact, then Israel would've mobilized against Russia or in the time, the Soviet Union, which is supporting the Arab Nations since the late 1970's. If Israel can mobilize for war, why can't the Arab states also do the same?

Many people say that the Jewish state hasn't done anything to deserve such hatred from other countries. I'm not trying to be racist or anything, but what happened during the Crusades, the Holocaust, the war in which Israel was involved in after WWII? During the Crusades they took advantage of the situation and allied with the Europeans, of course Arabs are going to hate you for that. After WWI, you took control of the Central and Eastern European Economies as major bankers, merchants and likes, then came the Great Depression and you had almost total control. During those 2 wars, which I believe was the 6 day war of 1948, when Israel was winning, the inmediately pleaded the UN to put a stop to the war while they had an advantage. Why can't they win it for themselves?

Politically and Moraly speaking, the Arabs have their reason to be against the state and people of Israel, as Israel is already against the Arabs.
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It would like be giving the USA back to all the indians.

Also I think Stalingrade is talking about Credibility, by your def. I could put the quote taps on anything I write and call it fact.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2006-04-25 at 00:40:09
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It would like be giving the USA back to all the indians.
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They deserve it back, I actually disrespect you for that comment. They have to own casinos to get money back, we raped, pillaged, and stole their land.

As one of my T-shirts says...

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-04-25 at 01:54:07
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Apr 25 2006, 12:33 AM)
You insulted my religion.
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i still don't see a discrimination there, but becawse it insulted you, i apologise for that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-04-25 at 06:49:41
Thank you for your apology.

Yo, the TheDaddy0420, giving the USA back to the indians wouldn't be a bad idea, especially since we annexed them and took their land. How would you feel if the indians annexed you?

In the middle east, the situation is markedly different. The Arabs controls more land than the Israelis, whereas here, the Indians controls a lot less than the Americans. Over there, the Arabs and the Israelis have a conflict partly fueled by land greed, like the Americans fueled their conflict with the indians. The Israelis want peace now, but the Palestine wont give up. Over here, the Indians wanted peace, but the Americans wouldn't give in.

You get the picture? It's quite opposite. So, your analogy was inaccurate. The Arabs ought to keep the land they have, and the Israelis ought to keep their own land. Unfortunately, hatred is the basis for politics, and politics leads to intentionally-made bad decisions.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-25 at 09:18:02
If i'm not mistakened, they hate eachother for way more than politics..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-04-25 at 16:38:01
I said their hatred is the basis for their politics. So, you're not mistaken, and nor am I.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-04-25 at 18:52:05
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Apr 25 2006, 02:49 AM)
Thank you for your apology.

Yo, the TheDaddy0420, giving the USA back to the indians wouldn't be a bad idea, especially since we annexed them and took their land. How would you feel if the indians annexed you?

In the middle east, the situation is markedly different. The Arabs controls more land than the Israelis, whereas here, the Indians controls a lot less than the Americans. Over there, the Arabs and the Israelis have a conflict partly fueled by land greed, like the Americans fueled their conflict with the indians. The Israelis want peace now, but the Palestine wont give up. Over here, the Indians wanted peace, but the Americans wouldn't give in.

You get the picture? It's quite opposite. So, your analogy was inaccurate. The Arabs ought to keep the land they have, and the Israelis ought to keep their own land. Unfortunately, hatred is the basis for politics, and politics leads to intentionally-made bad decisions.
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Wait, explain to me what you thought I ment please cause I do believe you didn't understand my statement.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2006-04-25 at 19:41:31
QUOTE(Stalingrad @ Apr 24 2006, 07:29 PM)
Amazing how you think you have an impact on my emotions on a forum where I can not even see you face to face. (If you have affected me yet in anyway I would have reported you already but I haven't, not once).

You have yet to provide any information to defend your case except "I am right and you are wrong".
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If you don't like the way Kellimus is responding at you, then don't keep provoking him by doing the same in similar manner.

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The Israelis want peace now, but the Palestine wont give up. Over here, the Indians wanted peace, but the Americans wouldn't give in.


It's pretty obvious that Israelis want peace and Palestinians don't. Palestine doesn't exist whereas Israel was forged on land that used to be called Palestine. Of course Palestinians would be mad because WWI had to involve the Middle East and Europeans rose to power there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-25 at 19:49:15
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If you don't like the way Kellimus is responding at you, then don't keep provoking him by doing the same in similar manner.


I usually don't, but he responds with the same agressiveness. I don't even have to insult him for Kellimus to bite back.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-25 at 19:52:53
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If you don't like it, leave
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-25 at 20:06:09
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Apr 25 2006, 07:52 PM)
QUOTE(SeN Authority)
If you don't like it, leave

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Could say the same for you. You keep poking at how I "attacked" you first and how I am an "Illogical child who knows nothing about this world and who hasn't hit puberty". How nice.

The saddest part about Kellimus is that some people on SeN actually support his behavior. pft
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-04-27 at 13:56:16
Iran wants nukes to be balanced with Israel, and because the United States has IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN, and ISRAEL on its side. Iran is just about surrounded by the good ol' Americans. Why does this worry Iran? Because, you see, America and Iran both have religious nutjobs for leaders, and these leaders are not of the same religion. But since America took out Iraq and could be percieved as anti-Muslim, Iran has a big reason to be nervous. Hence, nukes: the anti-stress pill!

Have I succeeded in bringing this thread back from the depths of Off-Topic?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dark_lunatic_K on 2006-04-27 at 17:20:55
I'm 100% Iranian and I live in Canada - The land of peace and freedom.
I don't really care what you guys are discussing about USA invading Iran or Israel invading Iran and what not, but I wanna show you guys a movie of Iran's military power compared to Iraq's shizty insurgents. disgust.gif

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=20...ilitary&pl=true

Video taken: February 2006

Very recent, very strong, very proud, ready to kick your ass if you go in! smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-27 at 18:07:16
YOU SAID YOUR WERE GERMAN cursing.gif censored.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2006-04-27 at 20:24:37
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YOU SAID YOUR WERE GERMAN  cursing.gif  censored.gif
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The internet. Serious business.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-27 at 21:27:01
QUOTE(Dark_lunatic_K @ Apr 27 2006, 02:20 PM)
I'm 100% Iranian and I live in Canada - The land of peace and freedom.
I don't really care what you guys are discussing about USA invading Iran or Israel invading Iran and what not, but I wanna show you guys a movie of Iran's military power compared to Iraq's shizty insurgents.  disgust.gif

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=20...ilitary&pl=true

Video taken: February 2006

Very recent, very strong, very proud, ready to kick your ass if you go in!  smile.gif
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You make me giggle.

To bad their carpet bombing is obsoleet(SP) to our laser guided system.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the United States Army is the most powerful (Technology wise) and could whoop Iran's army.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-04-28 at 08:31:48
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Apr 28 2006, 04:26 AM)
You make me giggle.

To bad their carpet bombing is obsoleet(SP) to our laser guided system.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the United States Army is the most powerful (Technology wise) and could whoop Iran's army.
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i agree that USA's army can crush any other today (any other, that doesen't have a lot of nuklear missiles). but don't think that those laser (or other) guided systems are so perfect. they allso miss. allthow ofcourse it's better than wiping-out a whole city for 1 factory/decrease the morale of citizens.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DarK on 2006-04-28 at 09:22:34
Ok I wasnt patient enough to read Page 2 and 3 but now

How isnt a nuclear Israel bad? Or nuclear USA or Russia? The point realy is Israel and USA are scared. So they must make sure that they remain a dominating power. And Israel's government has proven the ability to take advantage of others weakness' before. I suggest everyone reads BeeR KeG's post on the 1st page.
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