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Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-02 at 20:34:03
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I've never heard of specific terms against whites.

Cracker isn't a specific term against whites?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Eskimo Bob on 2006-12-02 at 23:41:58
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Is anyone else annoyed by how black people call each other "My african" but cry when white people call them a african?
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I am.

I honestly think he went a little to far, he could have just said : "Hey you 2 quiet down up there!"...

My friend and brother says n***er all the time and it annoys me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Blu on 2006-12-03 at 01:44:07
I know that it might have been hard for him to keep his cool..but he could have thought b4 speaking aloud..he should know better than that closedeyes.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2006-12-03 at 08:34:25
Never mind now I see why Krammer might or might not of felt scared after he said those words. The law is sort of on his side anyway because he has freedom of speech. It was there fault for the heckling and as stated before they should of just left.

Imagine this. 2 young men standing behind you while you play a game of starcraft. You play some RPG like LOTR biggrin.gif. Now picture those 2 keep criticizing you step of the way there going on an on none stop. Of course your going to tell them to shut up but nothing unoffensive. So after you start playing again they go on an on about your playing skills on till you eventually lose it. I guess thats where we leave of with Krammers situation.
Plus its not really going to affect his career because he has billions that he could simply live off.

So now theres the 2 sides.
Take your side with krammer
Take your side on 2 men who ongoingly disturbs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-03 at 16:55:50
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I know that it might have been hard for him to keep his cool..but he could have thought b4 speaking aloud..he should know better than that closedeyes.gif

Are you implying that you would have kept your cool in that situation, in comparison to a professional actor who got an education specifically in showing false emotions?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TSoldier_Wol[f] on 2006-12-06 at 09:02:28
QUOTE(CaptainCrunch @ Dec 2 2006, 03:42 PM)
Is anyone else annoyed by how black people call each other "My african" but cry when white people call them a african?
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Never heard of that, I only heard black people call each other the N word. But I hardly hear any white people calling them N word unless they're hillbillies basically, but I notice this but I find it a little strange. I seen white people who are friends with black people but they call them the N word while I hear black people calling their white friends "wigger" and yet no fighting or insulting each other just as if they are saying, "What's up dude" What do ya guys find that as?

-Jackson-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Blu on 2006-12-06 at 10:59:14
QUOTE(PwnPirate @ Dec 3 2006, 03:55 PM)
Are you implying that you would have kept your cool in that situation, in comparison to a proffessional actor who got an education specifically in showing false emotions?
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The first thing I would have done was to ask them to keep their thoughts to themselves. If they continued I would have just left the stage because i know when to give up. He made himself look bad by falling into their insults and returning his anger at them with the same punch. Comedian or no comedian, people should know when they have gone to far.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-06 at 19:25:05
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The first thing I would have done was to ask them to keep their thoughts to themselves. If they continued I would have just left the stage because i know when to give up. He made himself look bad by falling into their insults and returning his anger at them with the same punch. Comedian or no comedian, people should know when they have gone to far.

You obviously don't understand how much pressure was on him, or what being furious feels like.
Like I said, he is a professional actor who got an education specifically in showing false emotions. If he lost his cool, you would have lost your cool. You can't just watch a situation from a third person perspective and say "Oh I would have done better than him."
This is the same argument other people use when they say that people with depression are weak. You can't just sit down and say "I'm strong, I can will myself out of depression". Likewise, you can't just sit down and say "I'm in a buring fury, I'll just will myself out of it".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PoSSeSSeDCoW on 2006-12-06 at 19:39:56
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If they continued I would have just left the stage because i know when to give up.

Leaving the stage would have been foolish. It would have made people demand their money back, made the two guys happy, and caused harm to his reputation. What I thought he should have done was order the two people to leave.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-12-06 at 19:41:30
QUOTE(CaptainCrunch @ Dec 2 2006, 05:42 PM)
Is anyone else annoyed by how black people call each other "My african" but cry when white people call them a african?
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Because in the 1800's, slave owners used to call the slaves that. Now they use it as a friendly term if it ends with an A. White people call black people with word with the Er in present time. Think about it. Slavery was abolished but if the white people called them that, they wouldnt really cry. Once the white person says it, they are dead within 15 seconds. Or Atleast in NYC.

QUOTE(Eskimo Bob @ Dec 2 2006, 11:41 PM)
I am.

I honestly think he went a little to far, he could have just said : "Hey you 2 quiet down up there!"...

My friend and brother says n***er all the time and it annoys me.

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Let's hope you dont live in a black neighborhood.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MicAarZur on 2006-12-06 at 20:11:54
I agree with the hecklers, he's not funny. Comedians are supposed to come up with a witty comeback to something like that. He just made a complete ass of himself. If I was in the audience, even I would feel awkward for him.

Making an insult based upon his race is racist, by the way.

Also, I don't agree with this being in serious discussion.

The "N" word is only a derogative word, and is racist when used by anyone. It's racist when used by whites, and even more racist when used by black as 'their' word. Kind of like 'BET', it's not racist because it's for blacks, and blacks can't be racist!! (Sarcasm) Some people actually feel that because of what happened years ago, they need to be treated special.

I say I hate gangsters, all of a sudden I'm racist. Believe me, I hate white gangsters just as much.

Black heritage month, hah, let's have a white heritage month. OH yeah, we'd be RACIST. Yes, in fact, we would, just like black heritage month, BET, exclusive use of the 'N' word, and many other things that just disgust me.

Remember the term color blind. That doesnt mean, "Oh! This person's black! We better give him the job because of what his ancestors suffered years ago! It's only fair!"

That isn't what Martin Luther King Jr. Strived for, and it won't be what I strive for either. It's ridiculous.

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education specifically in showing false emotions?

Obviously you haven't ever seen seinfeld.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-12-06 at 20:44:23
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I agree with the hecklers, he's not funny. Comedians are supposed to come up with a witty comeback to something like that. He just made a complete ass of himself. If I was in the audience, even I would feel awkward for him.

Making an insult based upon his race is racist, by the way.

Also, I don't agree with this being in serious discussion.

The "N" word is only a derogative word, and is racist when used by anyone. It's racist when used by whites, and even more racist when used by black as 'their' word. Kind of like 'BET', it's not racist because it's for blacks, and blacks can't be  racist!! (Sarcasm) Some people actually feel that because of what happened years ago, they need to be treated special.

I say I hate gangsters, all of a sudden I'm racist. Believe me, I hate white gangsters just as much.

Black heritage month, hah, let's have a white heritage month. OH yeah, we'd be RACIST. Yes, in fact, we would, just like black heritage month, BET, exclusive use of the 'N' word, and many other things that just disgust me.

Remember the term color blind. That doesnt mean, "Oh! This person's black! We better give him the job because of what his ancestors suffered years ago! It's only fair!"

That isn't what Martin Luther King Jr. Strived for, and it won't be what I strive for either. It's ridiculous.
Obviously you haven't ever seen seinfeld.
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I disagree with White heritage month. Black people went through a lot and it was really harsh. I mean, if there was a white heritage month, we would need one for hispanics, asians, and indians.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Koltz on 2006-12-06 at 21:15:09
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-zJJ_oqgtcQ

There was a documentary in 2005, about white nationalism
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MicAarZur on 2006-12-06 at 21:26:48
QUOTE(EcHo @ Dec 6 2006, 07:44 PM)
I disagree with White heritage month. Black people went through a lot and it was really harsh. I mean, if there was a white heritage month, we would need one for hispanics, asians, and indians.
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EXACTLY, that's why I said there shouldn't be ANY racial heritage months, it's racist! There should be NO special exceptions.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-06 at 23:53:08
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Making an insult based upon his race is racist, by the way.

Making an insult based on someone's race doesn't make you racist. Look up the definition.
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I agree with the hecklers, he's not funny. Comedians are supposed to come up with a witty comeback to something like that.

Comedians have their material written well before the show, so no, they aren't.
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. I mean, if there was a white heritage month, we would need one for hispanics, asians, and indians.

Blacks don't deserve anything more than whites. Most black teenagers didn't even suffer racism in their time, yet they act like some grave injustice has been done to them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2006-12-09 at 16:33:09
He shouldn't have brought race into it. I don't mind him yelling at someone, that would be funny, but he crossed the line. I am convinced racism will be around for a long time unfortunately. Blacks and latinos still aren't treated as equals in the U.S.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2006-12-09 at 18:26:32
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Blacks don't deserve anything more than whites. Most black teenagers didn't even suffer racism in their time, yet they act like some grave injustice has been done to them.
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I disagree on that. smile.gif For a canadien with some family's in the states most black children and teenager go toward racism of there own kind. Like I remember there was this good that was holding a donation kettle to raise money for the salvation army and a couple of black teenagers went up to him and took him of all his money and if he disagreed with what there were doing then the older ones would call apon him racist.

But you all know Kramer doesnt have a dent in his career right? Freedom of speech protects him anyway and heck he has billions of dollars to live off of.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2006-12-09 at 23:15:14
I don't like that one race, what's it called...

Humans.

Protoss with their superiority FTW.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Chicken on 2006-12-09 at 23:59:42
Just sick thats all i can say i never liked sienfeild or w/e and now i really dont like it
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-10 at 17:21:52
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I disagree on that. smile.gif For a canadien with some family's in the states most black children and teenager go toward racism of there own kind. Like I remember there was this good that was holding a donation kettle to raise money for the salvation army and a couple of black teenagers went up to him and took him of all his money and if he disagreed with what there were doing then the older ones would call apon him racist.

But you all know Kramer doesnt have a dent in his career right? Freedom of speech protects him anyway and heck he has billions of dollars to live off of.

I couldn't really understand what you meant, but I'll assume you mean that some black teenagers do suffer racism. Note that I said most, not all. I can easily name a member of any race that suffers racism.
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Just sick thats all i can say i never liked sienfeild or w/e and now i really dont like it

Good for you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2006-12-11 at 15:54:10
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Just sick thats all i can say i never liked sienfeild or w/e and now i really dont like it
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You can't be biased like that. So you think one man makes a whole difference to the show even though he hasn't portrayed those emotions on it? Sorry, thats a different story.
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I don't like that one race, what's it called...

Humans.

Protoss with their superiority FTW.


Humans are evilest animals known. We have done many things to this planet we know as earth. Wars,pollution,destruction,mass murders you name it. No other species except for us have done all those things.

Protoss are the best because theres no racist joke you can say to them. There blue. The best colour known in the whole sector. biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2006-12-11 at 16:56:18
QUOTE(JordanN_3335 @ Dec 11 2006, 02:54 PM)
Protoss are the best because theres no racist joke you can say to them. There blue. The best colour known in the whole sector.  biggrin.gif
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You've gotta admit, they've been pretty harsh on the Dark Templars.

I'd rather call Aldaris a racist before Kramer.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2006-12-11 at 18:24:39
Racism is sad.
I think that it still exists so largely because whites gave out civil rights to minorities and now they think that everything is even when really they treat them still as 'different' or even still as inferior. Schools are still divided so all the blacks hang in groups and all the whites hang out in other groups and all the asians hang out together and it is really kinda depressing to me. Sure, my closest friends are white, but I make an effort around my school to talk to most people.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-11 at 23:31:09
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Humans are evilest animals known. We have done many things to this planet we know as earth. Wars,pollution,destruction,mass murders you name it. No other species except for us have done all those things.

Humans invented the concept of evil in the first place, evil doesn't actually exist for other animals.
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Schools are still divided so all the blacks hang in groups and all the whites hang out in other groups and all the asians hang out together and it is really kinda depressing to me. Sure, my closest friends are white, but I make an effort around my school to talk to most people.

That's not anyone's fault, that's just what people prefer. Wouldn't you rather hang out with someone who shares more interests with you and understands your culture? There's nothing wrong with similar races clumping together. It's not racist, it's just natural.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Desperado on 2006-12-12 at 00:44:20
That video confused me it. It seems like it's taken totally out of context. The first thing you see is "Kramer" spouting off like a mad man and some people, you never see why. Was it part of the act? I don't know, you can't tell from the video. The whole thing seems completely strange. How does he even get to that point without someone coming on stage and pulling him off?
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