Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-02 at 22:03:36
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Well while people still learn about the meaning of life they have 80 years at an average to try and get the most before they die of old age.
And the sun will explode in 12 billion years destroying earth and the other planets.
Reminds me of this quote from aqua teen pooing force.
"So wisdom cube I have this paradox I want solved"
And the sun will explode in 12 billion years destroying earth and the other planets.
Reminds me of this quote from aqua teen pooing force.
"So wisdom cube I have this paradox I want solved"
What is your point?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-12-02 at 22:14:47
The meaning of life -----> 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by green_meklar on 2006-12-03 at 11:50:44
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Who's to say everyone derives happiness from passing on their genes?
Who's to say everyone derives happiness from worshipping god(s)?
Everyone has such different values that there are very few universals to work with.
Who's to say everyone derives happiness from worshipping god(s)?
Everyone has such different values that there are very few universals to work with.
Well, there is one, and that's that everyone wants to derive happiness, from wherever they happen to get it. There's really no true such thing as altruism; any human action is made because the person thinks at the time that that is what will make them happiest.
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This is the goal of the human race, but something as simple as this can't be the meaning of life. Some organisms don't even experience happiness, yet they still live.
Well, I think most of us are talking about human life, most specifically our own lives. As for other organisms, if they're too primitive to experience happiness than they're probably too primitive to make any choice to go on living; whatever they do is entirely a matter of reflex.
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Anyways it's sort of impossible to argue sides in this topic, if someone like Sigmund Freud didn't know the meaning of life then we don't have much hope either.
By the way, the 'the experts are arguing over this, so we shouldn't bother' argument fails pretty miserably. I suggest you go ask some experts what they think about it, chances are almost all of them will encourage non-experts to discuss these matters anyway.
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The only way you could counter my argument is if you claimed to be smarter than Einstein himself.
Only if several conditions are fulfilled:
1. Your argument is the same as Einstein's.
2. There is no new evidence on the subject that has come to light since Einstein's death.
3. It is physically impossible to think up something someone smarter than you has not already thought up.
I'm not sure about the first condition, but I'm pretty sure the second two are about as far from being true as it's possible to get.
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And the sun will explode in 12 billion years destroying earth and the other planets.
Actually more like five billion years, but whatever.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CornMuffin on 2006-12-03 at 13:32:18
Who cares if the sun will explode in a couple billion years...by that time the human race would have evolved and there would be no true humans left, we would be a new more advanced race
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-12-03 at 15:13:35
I'm quite confident humans and their ilk will be long dead by then. ;p
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PoSSeSSeDCoW on 2006-12-03 at 15:30:46
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I'm quite confident humans and their ilk will be long dead by then. ;p
I agree with that. The Earth has been around for billions of years and no complex species has lasted that long. There will be something that will kill us off.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FatalException on 2006-12-03 at 15:47:30
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A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
Einstein can't have a say in the matters of life, eh?Is this about the meaning of our life, or life as a whole?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-03 at 17:11:10
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Only if several conditions are fulfilled:
1. Your argument is the same as Einstein's.
2. There is no new evidence on the subject that has come to light since Einstein's death.
3. It is physically impossible to think up something someone smarter than you has not already thought up.
1. Your argument is the same as Einstein's.
2. There is no new evidence on the subject that has come to light since Einstein's death.
3. It is physically impossible to think up something someone smarter than you has not already thought up.
1. I'm not clear on what you mean.
2. If there was any evidence, it was not significant. (note: I'm talking about the meaning of life itself, which my original post referred to).
3. It is physically impossible to think of something more logical than someone who is (at that moment) smarter than you, because then they wouldn't be smarter than you (unless you guess, and I assume you don't guess random things in an argument).
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By the way, the 'the experts are arguing over this, so we shouldn't bother' argument fails pretty miserably. I suggest you go ask some experts what they think about it, chances are almost all of them will encourage non-experts to discuss these matters anyway.
"The experts are arguing over this, so the chances are unlikely that we will find a better solution."
The only reason they encourage non-experts to discuss is because a large mass of inferior minds may find holes that two superior minds didn't catch, and because debating is healthy. We are only one miniscule piece of that inferior mob, so our chances to realize something significant, aren't significant. I'm not saying anyone shouldn't argue, I'm saying they wont find a solution.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2006-12-03 at 17:17:13
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Mathematics have every bit to do with life. Mathematics represent everything ever existing. Anyways the point was that he was an intellectual, and a highly respected one. The only way you could counter my argument is if you claimed to be smarter than Einstein himself.
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Well go ahead and prove the meaning of life with a mathematical equation. There has never been a equation which have proven the meaning of life, and my argument holds until someone does, which I doubt.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-03 at 17:22:37
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Well go ahead and prove the meaning of life with a mathematical equation. There has never been a equation which have proven the meaning of life, and my argument holds until someone does, which I doubt.
That actually supports my argument. I think you should check it again.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2006-12-03 at 17:24:58
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That actually supports my argument. I think you should check it again.
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So, I am smarter than Einstein. There, my counter works.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-03 at 17:26:45
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So, I am smarter than Einstein. There, my counter works.
Give me evidence.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2006-12-03 at 17:29:23
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Give me evidence.
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Why don't my word suffice?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-03 at 17:30:47
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Why don't my word suffice?
Because I wasn't born yesterday. By the way, I'm the messiah of the universe.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2006-12-03 at 17:32:52
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Because I wasn't born yesterday. By the way, I'm the messiah of the universe.
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How great for you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-03 at 17:35:32
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How great for you.
Enough of this. Enough of the spamming.
It's safe to assume that you aren't smarter than Einstien untill you actually give evidence, which you haven't given because you're a smart-aleck.
Don't drag the sarcastic comments.
If you continue posting illogical spam from now on I wont reply.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2006-12-03 at 17:38:41
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Enough of this. Enough of the spamming.
It's safe to assume that you aren't smarter than Einstien untill you actually give evidence, which you haven't given because you're a smart-aleck.
Don't drag the sarcastic comments.
If you continue posting illogical spam from now on I wont reply.
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It's safe to assume that you aren't smarter than Einstien untill you actually give evidence, which you haven't given because you're a smart-aleck.
Don't drag the sarcastic comments.
If you continue posting illogical spam from now on I wont reply.
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Haha, that's the funniest thing I've read today.
And also, don't say that the meaning of life is provable with a mathematic equation before someone has even done it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-03 at 17:41:11
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Haha, that's the funniest thing I've read today.
You're a very dull person.
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And also, don't say that the meaning of life is provable with a mathematic equation before someone has even done it.
Just because someone hasn't done something doesn't mean it can't be done, that doesn't make any sense. You know that if you rape someone, you will go to jail, you don't need to do that in order to find out. Mathematic equations represent everything ever possible, there is an equation for the meaning of life, no one knows it yet.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2006-12-03 at 17:44:33
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You're a very dull person.
Just because someone haven't done something doesn't mean it can't be done, that doesn't make any sense. You know that if you rape someone, you will go to jail, you don't need to do that in order to find out. Mathematic equations represent everything ever possible, there is an equation for the meaning of life, no one knows it yet.
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Just because someone haven't done something doesn't mean it can't be done, that doesn't make any sense. You know that if you rape someone, you will go to jail, you don't need to do that in order to find out. Mathematic equations represent everything ever possible, there is an equation for the meaning of life, no one knows it yet.
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If no one knows it yet, how can someone know that it does exist? It's like saying a tree fell down in a forest while you still are not knowing if it even did or not.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-03 at 17:47:00
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If no one knows it yet, how can someone know that it does exist? It's like saying a tree is falling in a forest while you still are not knowing if it even did or not.
There is an answer to the equation 10 * 132134523454353461234212412321321-5454354353534+6p=432543656243243243254362343253645645645
You just don't know it yet.
Need any more examples?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2006-12-03 at 17:50:54
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There is an answer to the equation 10 * 132134523454353461234212412321321-5454354353534+6p p=432543656243243243254362343253645645645
You just don't know it yet.
Need any more examples?
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You just don't know it yet.
Need any more examples?
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While you're still on it, show me the equation that shows the meaning of life!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-03 at 17:54:23
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While you're still on it, show me the equation that shows the meaning of life!
You're just saying the same thing over and over, and I'm just giving the same evidence in response over and over. I'll humor you one last time.
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Just because someone hasn't done something doesn't mean it can't be done, that doesn't make any sense. You know that if you rape someone, you will go to jail, you don't need to do that in order to find out. Mathematic equations represent everything ever possible, there is an equation for the meaning of life, no one knows it yet.
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If no one knows it yet, how can someone know that it does exist? It's like saying a tree is falling in a forest while you still are not knowing if it even did or not.
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There is an answer to the equation 10 * 132134523454353461234212412321321-5454354353534+6p=432543656243243243254362343253645645645
You just don't know it yet.
Need any more examples?
You just don't know it yet.
Need any more examples?
Put those quotes together. If you still don't get it, then I don't want to reply anymore.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2006-12-03 at 18:00:56
I get it perfectly, the mathematical equation that proves the meaning of live doesn't exist!
ADDITION:
By my belief, proving the meaning of life isn't possible. Therefore, the mathematical equation does not exist.
ADDITION:
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Mathematic equations represent everything ever possible, there is an equation for the meaning of life, no one knows it yet.
By my belief, proving the meaning of life isn't possible. Therefore, the mathematical equation does not exist.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PoSSeSSeDCoW on 2006-12-03 at 18:01:32
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You know that if you rape someone, you will go to jail, you don't need to do that in order to find out.
Untrue, if I don't get caught, I won't go to jail. I seriously doubt that there can be a mathematical proof for the meaning of life, as the meaning of life involves things that really cannot be quantified.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-12-03 at 18:27:03
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By my belief, proving the meaning of life isn't possible.
The word "evidence" doesn't exist in your dictionary does it?
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Untrue, if I don't get caught, I won't go to jail. I seriously doubt that there can be a mathematical proof for the meaning of life, as the meaning of life involves things that really cannot be quantified.
Fine then, you know that if you kill yourself, you will die as a result, you don't need to do that in order to prove it. -_-;;
Everything can be quantified one way or another (or you might be right, I'm not absolutely sure).