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Report, edit, etc...Posted by ScrollMaker on 2005-03-16 at 20:55:44
QUOTE(yeow @ Mar 16 2005, 08:25 PM)
Oh? And what would of Kerry done?
That was before Kerry even ran for president. It was Gore that ran against Bush in 2000.

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Imagine for a second that your the president of the US and 9/11 occured. More than 3000 civilians have been killed. WTF are you going to do? Sit there and wait for something else to happen??
If I was president I would have done something about it when I learned about it. Bush on the other hand did nothing when he learned about it on August 6, 2001. It was on August 6, 2001 that Bush was handed the Presidential Daily Brief by Condoleeza Rice. The brief was titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside US" and it said that Bin Laden was planning to hijack planes and attack the World Trade Center. What did Bush do after he did or did not actually read it? He went fishing for the rest of the day.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pdf
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-03-16 at 23:24:46
Yeah and don't forget that bush (doesn't deserve capital b) uses God to justify other people. This is just stupid because the 2 most dangerous things to mix together, politics and religion, where mixed by a guy who can't understand a report that says, "WE'RE BONED"

Honestly, as a person, bush is a good guy, but politicly, he's a censored.gif ing dumbass! Yoshi, if you read this, tell me if Canada ever gets a leader as dumb as this guy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-03-16 at 23:27:21
Back in Bush's first term before 9/11 the government was in such bad shape to counter terrorism threats (thanks to Clinton) that it was impossible to go after each threat warning that was made against the USA. And trust me the USA got threat warnings every week, so finally one threat actually took part and killed 3000 poeple. This is like the boy who cried wolf story. We get so many warnings of terrorsim acts that never take place, so now one actually does take place (the boy gets eaten by wolf).

Now, thanks to Bush, we have the ability to counter every terrorism warning and threat. Hey! why don't you run for president? and Im tired of hearing "what if" and "Well I would have done this", frankley no one expected this one terrorist warning (that is out of MANY others) to actaully take place. Yes Bush should have taken every warning seriously but that wasn't possible becuase most/ if not all of our agents were dispanded thanks to Clinton.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by ScrollMaker on 2005-03-17 at 00:31:05
QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Chris @ Mar 16 2005, 11:27 PM)
Back in Bush's first term before 9/11 the government was in such bad shape to counter terrorism threats (thanks to Clinton) that it was impossible to go after each threat warning that was made against the USA.  And trust me the USA got threat warnings every week, so finally one threat actually took part and killed 3000 poeple.  This is like the boy who cried wolf story.  We get so many warnings of terrorsim acts that never take place, so now one actually does take place (the boy gets eaten by wolf).


Now, thanks to Bush, we have the ability to counter every terrorism warning and threat.  Hey! why don't you run for president?  and Im tired of hearing "what if" and "Well I would have done this", frankley no one expected this one terrorist warning (that is out of MANY others) to actaully take place.  Yes Bush should have taken every warning seriously but that wasn't possible becuase most/ if not all of our agents were dispanded thanks to Clinton.


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"Documents indicate that before Sept. 11, Ashcroft did not give terrorism top billing in his strategic plans for the Justice Department, which includes the FBI. A draft of Ashcroft's 'Strategic Plan' from Aug. 9, 2001, does not put fighting terrorism as one of the department's seven goals, ranking it as a sub-goal beneath gun violence and drugs. By contrast, in April 2000, Ashcroft's predecessor, Janet Reno, called terrorism 'the most challenging threat in the criminal justice area.'" Meanwhile, the Bush Administration decided to terminate "a highly classified program to monitor Al Qaeda suspects in the United States." [Source: Washington Post, 3/22/04; Newsweek, 3/21/04]

President Bush and Vice President Cheney’s counterterrorism task force, which was created in May, never convened one single meeting. The President himself admitted that "I didn't feel the sense of urgency" about terrorism before 9/11. [Source: Washington Post, 1/20/02; Bob Woodward’s “Bush at War”]

According to internal government documents, the first full Bush budget for FY2003 "did not endorse F.B.I. requests for $58 million for 149 new counterterrorism field agents, 200 intelligence analysts and 54 additional translators" and "proposed a $65 million cut for the program that gives state and local counterterrorism grants." Newsweek noted the Administration "vetoed a request to divert $800 million from missile defense into counterterrorism." [Source: New York Times, 2/28/04; Newsweek, 5/27/02]

"In the early days after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the Bush White House cut by nearly two-thirds an emergency request for counterterrorism funds by the FBI, an internal administration budget document shows. The papers show that Ashcroft ranked counterterrorism efforts as a lower priority than his predecessor did, and that he resisted FBI requests for more counterterrorism funding before and immediately after the attacks." [Source: Washington Post, 3/22/04]

“[T]hey didn't allow me to brief him on terrorism. You know, they're saying now that when I was afforded the opportunity to talk to him about cybersecurity, it was my choice. I could have talked about terrorism or cybersecurity. That's not true. I asked in January to brief him, the president, on terrorism, to give him the same briefing I had given Vice President Cheney, Colin Powell and Condi Rice. And I was told, ‘You can't do that briefing,  :censored: , until after the policy development process.’” Richard Clarke interview with Tim Russert on NBC’s Meet the Press, March 28, 2004.

"Clarke asked on several occasions for early Principals Committee meetings on these issues [outlined in his January 25, 2001 memo] and was frustrated that no early meeting was scheduled. He wanted principals to accept that al Qaeda was a ‘first order threat’ and not a routine problem being exaggerated by ‘chicken little’ alarmists. No Principals Committee meetings on al Qaeda were held until September 4, 2001.” National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, Threats and Responses in 2001, Staff Statement No. 8, “National Policy Coordination,”   pp 9-10;


       MR. ROEMER: Okay. Let's move into, with my 15 minutes, let's move into the Bush administration. On January the 25th, we've seen a memo that you had written to Dr. Rice, urgently asking for a principals review of al Qaeda. You include helping the Northern Alliance, covert aid, significant new '02 budget authority to help fight al Qaeda --

       MR. CLARKE: Uh-huh.

       MR. ROEMER: -- and response to the U.S.S. Cole. You attached to this document both the Delenda Plan of 1998 and a strategy paper from December 2000. Did you get a response to this urgent request for a principals meeting on these, and how does this affect your time frame for dealing with these important issues?

       MR. CLARKE: I did geta response. The response was that in the Bush administration I should, and my committee, the counterterrorism security group, should report to the deputies committee, which is a sub-cabinet level committee, and not to the principals, and that therefore it was inappropriate for me to be asking for a principals meeting. Instead, there would be a deputies meeting.

       MR. ROEMER: So, does this slow the process down to go to the deputies rather than to the principals or a small group, as you had previously done?

       MR. CLARKE: It slowed it down enormously, by months. First of all, the deputies committee didn't meet urgently in January or February. Then, when the deputies committee did meet, it took the issue of al Qaeda as part of a cluster of policy issues, including nuclear proliferation in South Asia, democratization in Pakistan, how to treat the problems, the various problems, including narcotics and other problems in Afghanistan, and, launched on a series of deputies meetings extending over several months to address al Qaeda in the context of all of those interrelated issues. That process probably ended, I think, in July of 2001, so we were readying for a principals meeting in July, but the principals' calendar was full, and then they went on vacation, many of them, in August, so we couldn't meet in August, and therefore the principals met in September.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-03-17 at 00:34:57
See we don't have means to counter terrorism as Bush is killing all of our soldiers and Cheny's making up colors for different alerts.

Who knows what censored.gif Army is doing but he has an intersting name.

Edit: Phooey it censored his name...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-03-17 at 00:41:49
QUOTE(ShadowBrood @ Mar 16 2005, 12:56 AM)
Yeah honestly every time bush opens his mouth, he makes himself look worse.  Now in JROTC, they all love bush because he started a war and JROTC is army related and all the people in it plan on enlisting.

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WELL GUESS  censored.gif ING WHAT YOU MORONS, BUSH IS GONNA  censored.gif ING SEND YOU TO A BACKWATER SECTION AND LET YOU GET MOLESTED BY TERRORIST WHORES.  AND THEN HE'S GONNA SAY YOU DIED VALIANTLY IN A FIGHT.  THEN THE IDIOT HE IS, HE'S GOING TO GO TO EUROPE AND ACT SMART WHILE CHENEY GETS "HEART PROBLEMS" AND STARTS FARTING GASOLINE AND SAYING IT'S A SIGN FROM  censored.gif ING GOD TO GO KILL MORE IRAQIS AND KILL OFF THE GOOD PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PROTECT OUT COUNTRY NOT DIE IN A BACKWATER SECTION FROM A WHORE.  THEN THE REST OF BUSH'S IDIOTIC STAFF WHO ARE MORE DANGEROUS THAN HIM ARE GOING TO KILL BUSH, TAKE POWER AND BECOME  censored.gif ING DICTATORS.  YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT ROE GUY IN THE ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE HE'S AN EVIL SON OF A BITCH!!  WATCH THE DAMN DOCUMENTARY "BUSH'S BRAIN", IT REALY ENLIGHTENS YOU TO THE FACT THAT ROE IS MORE EVIL THAN SATAN AND MAN PUT TOGETHER!!  THEN CHINA'S GOING TO SAY HI KOREA WANTS SOME BLOODY CANDY?  AND BUSH'S GONNA BE LIKE OMGWTFBBQ HE CAN'T SAY THAT!! IT CONTRADICTS THE BIBLE!! LET'S GO KILL THEM!! THEN IT'S GONNA BE A DAMN VIETNAM ALL OVER AGAIN BECAUSE BUSH AND HIS ADMINISTRATION ARE IGNORANT AND ARROGANT  censored.gif S  WHO DON'T HAVE A DAMN CLUE WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE U.S. SO THEY KEEP LOWERING TAXES EVEN THOUGH WE SHOULD BE RAISING THEM TO GET THIS COUNTRY OUT OF DEBT BECAUSE OF MORON BUSH!! IT ALL TRACES BACK TO HIM!!  WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BIGASS SURPLUS FUNDS CLINTON GOT US? HUH?? HUH???? BUSH SPENT IT ALL ON  censored.gif ING PORNO AND GUNS AND THOSE FANCY ASS DINNERS THAT COST 700 MILLION BUCKS FOR A PIECE OF  censored.gif ING CHEESE!!!  NOW WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE TO PREVENT THAT?  NOT ELECT A  censored.gif ING MORON WHO THINKS THAT GOD SHOULD BE THE JUSTIFICATION FOR HIS ACTIONS!!!  LEARN TO SEE HOW PEOPLE THINK NOT WHAT THEY SAY THEY THINK.  EITHER WAY!! HE'S A DAMN POLITICIAN!! YOU CAN'T TRUST THEM (well some of them) BECAUSE A MAJORITY OF THEM MAKE MILLIONS A SECOND BY MASTURBATING AND LYING TO EVERYONE!!!  GOD THIS COUNTRY MAKES ME SICK!! I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M A CITIZEN!!!  THE MOMENT I CAN I'M MOVING TO CANADA, I'll look for Yoshi for you guys.

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My God that feels better.
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Turn the caps lock off and stop flaming.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-03-17 at 00:44:48
Hey I set up a warning, the rant thing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-03-17 at 00:44:52
OK that all jsut adds to my point the our counter terrorism was horrible and also not taken seriously and also didn't take warnings as seriously as they should have. ShadowBrood, its not becuase our soldiers are dieing is the reason why our country sucked at counter terrorism, it all goes back to when Clinton disbanded agents and shit.

Yes it was wrong that our government cut fonding in the EARLY days before and after 9/11. Now we are kicking ass and I haven't heard of one terrorist attack on USA soil since 9/11, have you?

Also, do you really believe our government is telling us EVERYTHING? thats political sucide. Our government is doing way more then we know of.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-03-17 at 00:48:40
QUOTE(ShadowBrood @ Mar 16 2005, 10:44 PM)
Hey I set up a warning, the rant thing.
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This is a discussion thread. Cap locks makes you look like an idiot. Or like your yelling at us to make us believe you. And look how many explicitives that had? It was uncalled for. If you wish to do that, go somewhere else.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-03-17 at 10:24:13
They aren't really words such as censored.gif , they are actually the censored.gif tag.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-03-17 at 17:22:36
QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Chris @ Mar 16 2005, 11:27 PM)
Back in Bush's first term before 9/11 the government was in such bad shape to counter terrorism threats (thanks to Clinton) that it was impossible to go after each threat warning that was made against the USA.  And trust me the USA got threat warnings every week, so finally one threat actually took part and killed 3000 poeple.  This is like the boy who cried wolf story.  We get so many warnings of terrorsim acts that never take place, so now one actually does take place (the boy gets eaten by wolf).

Now, thanks to Bush, we have the ability to counter every terrorism warning and threat.  Hey! why don't you run for president?  and Im tired of hearing "what if" and "Well I would have done this", frankley no one expected this one terrorist warning (that is out of MANY others) to actaully take place.  Yes Bush should have taken every warning seriously but that wasn't possible becuase most/ if not all of our agents were dispanded thanks to Clinton.
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Thanks to Bush we can counter every threat? Really i heard of a guy called the shoe bomber hmm their was an almost successful attempt. Right now we may not be getting attacked maybe because they are to busy fighting in Iraq and other places but the thing is TERRORISM WILL NEVER GO AWAY!

No one said that they would make a better president even though we would.. Bush is about the worst person to be president...

QUOTE(FireKame @ Mar 17 2005, 12:48 AM)
This is a discussion thread. Cap locks makes you look like an idiot. Or like your yelling at us to make us believe you. And look how many explicitives that had? It was uncalled for. If you wish to do that, go somewhere else.
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please quite smile.gif your causing more problems and shadowbrood don't flame smile.gif n2o-Simpsons Brings out the peace pipe smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-03-17 at 19:33:30
You just added more onto what i just said, the shoe bomber didn't get away with what he wanted to do beucase our goevernment COUNTERED IT at the airport. Thanks to Bush terrorist aren't striking American soild beucase of the war in iraq. You are just helping my point dude. And Yes there will always be terrorism, but becuase of bush we have a better chance now of defending ourselfs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-03-17 at 20:27:46

We've seen some progress in making America more secure since September 11 - but there is still much more to be done. Today our government is not doing enough to make us safe. Our intelligence services remain fragmented and lack coordination. Our borders and ports are full of holes. Our chemical plants are vulnerable to attack. And across America, police officers, firefighters, and other first responders still lack the information, gear, and equipment to do their jobs safely and successfully.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by maximumdan on 2005-03-17 at 20:57:10
kerry lost. i look forward to hearing your humerous utopian ideals in the next election. until then, please refrain.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-03-17 at 21:01:58
Yes, there is many holes in our country's terrorism homeland defence, but since Bush after 9/11 things have REALLY gotton better. Oh I found this online and thought this was funny picture. Not flaming I just want people to laugh at it!


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Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-03-17 at 21:04:06
warn *cough*cough* this is a 13+ site unless u put a warning on a pic...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-03-18 at 01:41:38
Here are some funny pictures that are links so there is no previews.

Age 18+ please:

For every one who hates me here
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This many can't be wrong
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Don't worry we will protect you!
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I thought these pictures were very funny, I'm not attacking any one here and every one here is free to laugh at the pictures. I would also like to repeat myself by saying you can't build an entire country in 6 months (Iraq), it takes time and money and patience. Who ever siad this would be easy and granted there will be hard times. In my opinion no one is free if people in the world are being oppressed. Iraq is step one for peace in the middle east, which may not be right away, again of patience, this takes time. And even if you don't agree with whats going on over in the Middle east and with our President, Still support our troops! The last thing they need coming home from the Middle East is liberals yelliing at them and saying why are you fighting and Iraq is fals and crap like that. Soldiers don't need to hear that, they need to be encouraged to fight on until what has been started is finished and they need to know the Country is behind them all the way. Soldiers need to feel that they have a purpose fighting. The war may be bad but whats done is done and our soldiers need encouragement to fight on and secure Iraq faster. Basiclly support our troops or they might have low moral due to people telling them they are fighting for false causes which will cause more deaths due to low moral and such.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Materia_Master on 2005-03-18 at 15:02:16
I agree, our country is over 200 years in the making, and we still trying to make ourselves a better country.

Things this delicate and important can not be rushed or done half-assed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-03-18 at 15:05:59
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That's why I can't stand the right-wing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-03-18 at 18:10:32
The right wing nut jobs ... jeeze I just consider them "'uneducated'"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-03-18 at 18:55:27
Well those pictures are just jokes and shouldn't be taken seriously. Also think twice about how you view right wingers becuase almost all of the men protecting America in the armed forces are right wingers wink.gif . What would you do if we weren't around? Problably get bombed by terrorists while argueing with each other on how to defend your selfs.

This is why I can't stand liberals/serious democrats

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-03-18 at 18:56:38
I don't like right-wingers who resist all change (reactionaries).

Moderates are ok though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-03-18 at 19:45:19
Captain will is a clone of me except smarter smile.gif also Chris your avatar is dumb cuz i know someone who voted for bush but they thought they were voting for his dad...

(shows the IQ of most of the people that vored for him) smile.gif The states that voted for Kerry the average IQ was higher tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-03-18 at 20:20:55
QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Chris @ Mar 17 2005, 05:33 PM)
You just added more onto what i just said, the shoe bomber didn't get away with what he wanted to do beucase our goevernment COUNTERED IT at the airport.  Thanks to Bush terrorist aren't striking American soild beucase of the war in iraq.  You are just helping my point dude.  And Yes there will always be terrorism, but becuase of bush we have a better chance now of defending ourselfs.
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Wait so having troops in Iraq is keeping us safe? What about terroist cells in America?

Also I think the pictures you put up are quite humorous (im not right or left wing, I'm chicken wing AKA neither).

In response to n2o: OOOOOOH!!! BURN!!!!

Edit: S.T.A.R.S. 62 million people CAN be wrong. It's called group mentality, people start thinking the same thing just because others are. If you convince someone that something is wrong even though it is right, and they convince others, and it starts spreading, ALL of those people will be wrong even though there is alot of people who believe in that wrong thing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)RuFF on 2005-03-18 at 20:27:05
i dont get why you would kill bush,
if u did good job! ur taste of hate for him is gone

oh wait, you're going to jail tongue.gif
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