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I mean, Bush has ruined everything Clinton had done.
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Clinton did nothing...
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Bush:

Wants to reform social security, any librals/democrats put up a plan yet? nope

Starts War in Iraq with bad intel thanks to the shitty intelligence agency we have. (more then one though)

Freed Iraqi people

Wants to kill terrorists (I have no problem with that)

and as far as I know most people who hate Bush, hate him becuase their parents do. ( at least thats what I have concluded from my high school survey)

Please, besides all the conflicts in the middle east+reasons, what has Bush done to make your lives more shitty then they already are? (this goes towards americans becuase forgiens don't live Bush, they hear about him)
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Clinton did nothing...

Personally, yes, the war should be over. But would you rather them fight in America like September Eleventh? Terrorists are animals, and freaks, they will not stop causing troubles for any reasons... Better to fight there, then here. What Bush is trying to do is set up Democracy in Iraq so the people there don't suffer.

Aborition should be allowed though, I disagree with him there also...
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Are you seeing our economy collapse because of him???

Truest statement i've ever heard 

Well, techically he DID do something... he lied to us about getting a blowjob from monica lowinsky
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    * More than 22 million new jobs
    * Homeownership rate increase from 64.0% to 67.5%
    * Lowest unemployment in 30 years
    * Higher incomes at all levels
    * Largest budget deficit in American history converted to the largest surplus
    * Lowest government spending as a percentage of GDP since 1974
    * Higher stock ownership by families than ever before

I)  Uhh yeah, we have.  LEAVE IT ALONE BECAUSE IT WORKS FINE.  Just because it taxes rich people a little more and benefits the poor and elderly doesn't mean it should go.

II) Iraqi people are free?  Not the last time I checked.  They're dying right and left.  I already stated Iraqi civillain deaths are well over 100,000.

III) It has been almost three years (or almost two, I forget which) since we have been at war with terrorists.  I have no problem with killing terrorists either, if we actually were killing them.

IV) Hmm let's see Bush is gonna    our coastline with oil drills (Calif. coast drilling); gonna drill in the arctic, make us pray in school, strip gays of rights, remove some of my First Amendment rights (patriot act), and make my retirement insecure (social security privitization).  Great job he's doing, eh?  I got more.
Again, we haven't been fighting terrorists since we went to war against Iraq.  We let Bin Laden escape, essentially trading him for Saddam.

good point n20
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Bush:

Wants to reform social security, any librals/democrats put up a plan yet? nope

Starts War in Iraq with bad intel thanks to the shitty intelligence agency we have. (more then one though)

Freed Iraqi people

Wants to kill terrorists (I have no problem with that)

and as far as I know most people who hate Bush, hate him becuase their parents do. ( at least thats what I have concluded from my high school survey)

Please, besides all the conflicts in the middle east+reasons, what has Bush done to make your lives more shitty then they already are? (this goes towards americans becuase forgiens don't live Bush, they hear about him)
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I like bush, i think that he did the right thing in starting the war, most of those ppl need to die or be captured anyways.
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Good im glad someone said something non cynical about Bush. Yea, that's why I said in the president thread that Bush Was underrated, not overrated, because too many people were seeing only his bad things and none of the good things he's done, therefore concluding that he was the worst president in the entire history of the united states
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half the country voted for Bush, meaning half the country supports the war becuase hes our rep.

Republicans are partiots (may not be the smartest though)

Democrats are power hungry (larger government)

Liberals tear the country apart. (Michael Moore)
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So the french plan on taking us over eh? Ok, that's it, I'm gonna go to school tomorrow, and beat up that french kid.
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This is what i think about Bush, our president.  I think that he doesn't know what he is really getting America into, because what is going on right now in Iraq is going to affect the entire world most likely. If you think about it...America is not able to leave Iraq right now, because the second all of the Americans are out of Iraq, a lot of the people of iraq are going to want revenge, which means bombs on the USA.  personally...when there was no nuclear bombs of mass destruction found in iraq, all of our people should have been out of iraq then, not carry it on so that Bush can screw america over.  I think that Bush got himself in over his head and that now he is going to pay the price...america.  AND, He is NOT a good president, because i dont know if you realize it or not, but there have been more american people who have lost their jobs as him being president, than any other president in the history of america. he has lost more jobs than any president has in 200 years.  I mean, Bush has ruined everything Clinton had done. If you weren't making money while Clinton was president, you didn't get more pathetic. But NO, Bush is the president now and he doesn't care, all he cares about himself.  he cant even give a speech without having to read the entire thing from paper.  Bush is just freakin weak.  he is going off and banning peoples rights, like abortion for example. bush is trying to ban abortion. BUSH is NOT a women, i know for a fact that if i was a  ing women, and i was pregnant and couldn't raise the child for whatever reasons, there is no way in hell i would want to expierience the most pain anyone will ever expierience, to have a child that wont be mine. i personally think bush SUCKS, and has done nothing but bad for our country since he was elected into office.        Sorry for the long post but this is how i feel, and it could go on and on and on, but im sick of typing.
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I)  Uhh yeah, we have.  LEAVE IT ALONE BECAUSE IT WORKS FINE.  Just because it taxes rich people a little more and benefits the poor and elderly doesn't mean it should go.

II) Iraqi people are free?  Not the last time I checked.  They're dying right and left.  I already stated Iraqi civillain deaths are well over 100,000.

III) It has been almost three years (or almost two, I forget which) since we have been at war with terrorists.  I have no problem with killing terrorists either, if we actually were killing them.

IV) Hmm let's see Bush is gonna    our coastline with oil drills (Calif. coast drilling); gonna drill in the arctic, make us pray in school, strip gays of rights, remove some of my First Amendment rights (patriot act), and make my retirement insecure (social security privitization).  Great job he's doing, eh?  I got more.
Again, we haven't been fighting terrorists since we went to war against Iraq.  We let Bin Laden escape, essentially trading him for Saddam.

good point n20
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How the    is bush screwing the country. Are you seeing any people losing their houses because of him? Are you seeing any people losing their jobs because of him? Are you seeing our economy collapse because of him???

NO

He's just doing some things (like taxes, war, etc) which not might not be agreeable with many of us, but he is not screwing us over. It might affect us in some negative ways but there's always some positive things with his actions. If you compare him with all 42 or 43 presidents we've had, he is just an average president, not a bad one. I could name tons of presidents worse than him.
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The Patriot act will very likely have an effect on my life.  It severely limits your freedom of speech.

If Bush's judges overturn Rowe v. Wade then the outlawing of abortion could have a direct effect on my life.

If Bush's judges allow school prayer, that will have a direct effect on my life.
...and how is our economy doing better than times of old?
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Alright, maybe they will affect our lives. But the thing is, they haven't occured yet. And since Bush is still our president as of right now, we can't really judge him overall. Maybe he might redeem himself, maybe he'll exacerbate his reputation, we just dont know what the future might contain. As of right now, he isn't bad since as of right now, we aren't really affect. BUT if the "bad" future occurs as what is foretold by many, then yes we can truly say he is a bad president.
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Alright, maybe they will affect our lives. But the thing is, they haven't occured yet. And since Bush is still our president as of right now, we can't really judge him overall. Maybe he might redeem himself, maybe he'll exacerbate his reputation, we just dont know what the future might contain. As of right now, he isn't bad since as of right now, we aren't really affect. BUT if the "bad" future occurs as what is foretold by many, then yes we can truly say he is a bad president.
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1.  Actaully social security is a big problem, its not a few rich people spending more money.  Soon there will be more old people then young people, hence many benefits will not be avaible to them.  That is a big problem.  You sir are immature and weak minded.

2.  Yes Iraqi people are more free now then they have ever been.  Many lives have been lost, yes.  But if every war goes the way liberals want them, then wars would be fought more often.  No matter what civilians will die in the cause of war.

3.  Yes, we have been killing many of them.  Have you ever heard of the new operation taken by the Marines on the Syrian/Iraqi border?  Killed and captured many terrorists.

4.  All gays want is the benefits on Marriage, thats it.  It would be so super to them if the got to pay less on taxes.  If you haven't noticed, we need oil in order to survive, and drive and run the Country, hes trying to supply that oil, buig deal....Drilling in the artic?  The place he wants to drill is remote and has almost no wild life at all.  Patriot act on paper may effect you, but in real life it will never, try reading it fully before commenting on it.  Bush is trying to help you on Social Security, stop being so immature when your own parties haven't tryed to help you in the futre on social security.  Prayers in schools are bad, did you know teachers will not force you to prey if this bill passes, think of it as saying the pledge? Your lack of faith disturbs me.
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And here is where it is hard to ignore that Bush has some of the worst domestic policies.

I) That is Republican propaganda.  Why do you think we might not have enough money to fund social security?  Do the words tax cuts mean anything to you?  Perhaps we can't fund social security while flushing our money down the toilet with the military and doubling the national debt.  Taxes were invented for a reason.  What the short-sighted utterly ignorant majority of the country fails to see is that taxes in turn benefit us.  Under Clinton, we would have had the money we needed.  Clinton made a budget surplus and reduced the national debt; he didn't raises expenditures and cut income.

II+III) I will close my books on Bush's foreign policy.  We should never have gone into Iraq but what's done is done and even Bush is capable from here.

IV) Ah, here is where the ignorance of conservatives shines through like a beacon.
-Why should two men that love eachother not be entitled to the same civil rights as a man and a woman who love eachother are?  Being homosexual may be "disgusting", it may be heretic, but they are still human.  They deserve rights as much as we do.
-Drilling in the Arctic will not produce any oil until at least 8 years from now, and then it won't produce much at all.  In the meantime, the noise and bustle of construction will deal irreplicable damage to the ecosystem of Alaska.
-Exscuse me?  Alaska, devoid of life?  Alaska, mainly its southern half, has one of the most rich, bountiful, and undisturbed ecosystems in the world.  It is home to many animals, including grizzly bears, snow foxes, moose and many other animals.  From Alaska come some of the most profound imagery of animals in the wild.  Take this site for instance: http://www.akwildlife.com/  See all the nature pictures from Alaska.  Alaska devoid of life?  I think not.
-Under the USA Patriot Act, the FBI and other law enforcement agencies of the United States of America have the right to detain me, as an American citizen, indefinently without ever formally reading any charges against me.
-Bush trying to help me with social security?  I am more than willing to pay more in income tax in my life if I can be sure of funding and a stable life when I retire.
-True, the teachers can't force us to pray, but picture this:  You are an atheist who doesn't believe in God and have just moved to a small town in Mississippi.  As prayer time approaches, you realize that everyone else in the room is a devoutly religious Christian.  You hope feverntly that nobody notices your lack of faith, but one of the larger kids notice you don't pray.  From that day on, your life is miserable; the kids at school tease and taunt you for not believing.  Not my idea of fun.
FallenDreamer> Amen.  But there is no Yoda on earth 
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Alright, maybe they will affect our lives. But the thing is, they haven't occured yet. And since Bush is still our president as of right now, we can't really judge him overall. Maybe he might redeem himself, maybe he'll exacerbate his reputation, we just dont know what the future might contain. As of right now, he isn't bad since as of right now, we aren't really affect. BUT if the "bad" future occurs as what is foretold by many, then yes we can truly say he is a bad president.
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How the censored.gif is bush screwing the country. Are you seeing any people losing their houses because of him? Are you seeing any people losing their jobs because of him? Are you seeing our economy collapse because of him???

4. I know about Alaska buddy, I live in Washington State, I have to learn about Alaska for Pacific North West History class, even though Alaska is pretty north of the Pacific North West. The Area we are planning to drill is in a remote, northen part of Alaska, not very many animals live in this region.

And why should ONE kid out of an entire class get to decide if the class should pray or not? I thought this country was majority rules.

And why should ONE kid out of an entire class get to decide if the class should pray or not? I thought this country was majority rules.