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Report, edit, etc...Posted by dust_core on 2005-05-22 at 22:18:05
I've been away fromt the computer for the past 3 days. Here's my posts

1. The universe will have at least two things after the big crunch or the evaporation, stray particles and distended photons.

2. The age of thee universe is approximately 10 to the 9th power (try that, I just read it in a magazine)

3. There is a possibility of multiple universes
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-05-22 at 22:38:06
QUOTE(dust_core @ May 22 2005, 08:18 PM)
I've been away fromt the computer for the past 3 days. Here's my posts

1. The universe will have at least two things after the big crunch or the evaporation, stray particles and distended photons.

2. The age of thee universe is approximately 10 to the 9th power (try that, I just read it in a magazine)

3. There is a possibility of multiple universes
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Hm...interesting... have you thought of actually looking at how they determined the age of the universe? Thats all I really care about. And as for the possibility of multiple universes, even though concept is probably correct, its like saying there is a possibility of multiple Micheal Jacksons. Lets see you try and prove that one, lol tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dust_core on 2005-05-24 at 19:54:32
QUOTE(FallenDreamer @ May 22 2005, 09:38 PM)
Hm...interesting... have you thought of actually looking at how they determined the age of the universe? Thats all I really care about. And as for the possibility of multiple universes, even though concept is probably correct, its like saying there is a possibility of multiple Micheal Jacksons. Lets see you try and prove that one, lol tongue.gif
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Cosmologist and Astronomers determine the age by means of "cosmic radiation".

In michael jackson's case, it's maybe possible because of the many dimensions.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-05-24 at 20:38:33
QUOTE(dust_core @ May 24 2005, 05:54 PM)
Cosmologist and Astronomers determine the age by means of "cosmic radiation".

In michael jackson's case, it's maybe possible because of the many dimensions.
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Cosmic radiation: interesting, i'll have to look that up...

Michael Jackson: -_-' Must you bring up the topic of dimensions? Try proving it through this one first, because I thought you were refering to other universes in this dimension, so its only fair.

And....were not even talking about the end of the universe anymore, are we?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-05-24 at 20:48:58
I've always wondered how can there be a big crunch if all the galaxies are spreading away from each other.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tdnfthe1 on 2005-05-24 at 20:54:13
Just to make a point and get some minerals(GREED biggrin.gif )
If energy is infinitely recycled, then that would mean there is no end point or beginning point. Which would mean it was ALWAYS THERE, or it was simply moved, or conjured from a different piece of energy.

And everything else i wanted to say about heat and absolute zero was said by fallen dreamer, so i'm done for now.

Monkeys Rule! w00t.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-05-24 at 21:13:08
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And everything else i wanted to say about heat and absolute zero was said by fallen dreamer, so i'm done for now.

Monkeys Rule! w00t.gif
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WOOT! I did something right! happy.gif

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QUOTE(Gradius @ May 24 2005, 06:48 PM)
I've always wondered how can there be a big crunch if all the galaxies are spreading away from each other.
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Oh yeah, I recently thought of a reasonable way for that to be possible. If it really were true that there's a star or a black hole at the center of our universe (the star would eventually become a black hole), then it would start to suck everything in from gravity, a force that many still cannot completely understand. However, this one force is what seems to exist as a constant in forms of matter, so It's about the only way this would work. Anyway, detailing back into my idea of how the big crunch would go, I was recently told in another thread about how one a black hole reaches its 'limit', it expels all the matter that it has focused into that one point. As to WHY it does this, I'm not sure, 'll have to ask Farty about it. But anyway, the point is, if the Universe crunches into this Grand Black Hole, then once its reached it's limit, It will expel all the matter it has gained, everything will go crashing around everywhere, we'll probably end up with another earth in some small distant solar system, and thus Big Bang Jr. is born.

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I was recently told in another thread about how one a black hole reaches its 'limit', it expels all the matter that it has focused into that one point. As to WHY it does this, I'm not sure, 'll have to ask Farty about it.


So far, my guess is that the compressed energies in the singularity grow above the limit of its pull, so the black hole loses control over the matter, and it is all realesed. Just a guess though, I don't know what really happens.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dust_core on 2005-05-24 at 23:25:11
The Big Crunch can be resulted by a massive force reversing the Big Bang by means of Dark Energy. It has an unusual way of movement that tugs with the universe.

There are many black holes with the mass of a million suns or even bigger, the mass of many supergiants in our universe.

When a blackhole dies, i think it will evaporate then gone.

Anyone tell me, What will the sun become, a red giant, white/black dwarf or a black hole?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-05-25 at 00:06:49
Umm... aren't they just different places on the star-lifecycle?

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-05-25 at 00:45:55
QUOTE(EzDay2 @ May 24 2005, 10:06 PM)
... I find it hard to find a way to clarify without creating any misunderstandings...
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I mean, what bet did I lose? and how exactly?
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