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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-06-08 at 18:35:17
Oh no! They managed to not break a twig! That must be aliens at work!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Slyence on 2005-06-08 at 23:17:09
Exactly, You try to go make a crop cirlcle with alot of people, And not break a single twig.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2005-06-08 at 23:36:54
Ok this is from one source, you don't have to believe it 100%.

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And, a very interesting example of this sort of thing is the so-called crop circles in England in which wheat and rye and other grains -- these beautiful immense circles appeared and then -- this was in the 70's and 80's -- and then over progressive years, more and more complex geometries. And there were lots of people who said that these were made by UFOs that were landing and that it was too complex or too highly mathematical to be a hoax.

And it turns out that two blokes in Southern England, at their regular bar one night, thought it would be a good idea to make a kind of hoax to see if they could lure in UFO enthusiasts. And they succeeded every time--every time an explanation was proferred: a peculiar kind of wind, they then made another one which contradicted that hypothesis. And they were very pleased when it was said that no human intelligence could do this. That gave them great satisfaction. And for 15 years, they succeeded in these nocturnal expeditions using rope and board -- all the technology they needed.

And in their 60's, they finally confessed to the press with a demonstration of how it was done. And, of course, the confession received very little play in the media. And the claims of alien influence had received prominent exposure.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/aliens/carlsagan.html
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-06-08 at 23:37:03
I'm not a professional crop circle designer, I need to learn the trade at least first before I can try.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Slyence on 2005-06-09 at 09:11:43
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And it turns out that two blokes in Southern England, at their regular bar one night, thought it would be a good idea to make a kind of hoax to see if they could lure in UFO enthusiasts


So that guy is saying 2 people made a crop cirlcle?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FrAZ428 on 2005-06-09 at 14:25:57
That's what it sounds like, Slyence. I think it's very probable a couple of simple people could make crop circles. If I had a little experience and a couple of good friends plus a bit of motivation, I don't doubt I could make good crop circles. I still have yet to see any of these tests results showing that the plants weregenetically altered, etc, or even that they were unbroken. I mean, have You seen a crop cicle before?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-12 at 19:29:52
Aliens must exist. In some form even bactiera. Its an impossiblilty not to(theres at least 1 planet that has intelligent life, us[learned in stats AP]. I watch the History channel folks. Thats where i get this topic. They had a huge documentary on it. In the 70's 2 guys started the fad after they copied something they saw in there backyard. Theres proof that it started before that. the reason why maybe they werent there 100 years ago is because they didnt find us yet. Who knows what it says or if microwave changed magnetic fields to make this somehow. It could be aliens who knows. MORE DISCUSSION.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-12 at 19:43:30
I believe that aliens leave crop circles, BUT, humans can also do it, as stated before. Most are hoaxes by people, but if you was to go to every crop circle, you could probibly detect a change in the magnetic fields around them. The ones that are more "Magnitized" were most likely made by aliens, and the ones that aren't "Magnitized" at all, were most likely made by humans.

If you don't believe me, then oh well. Check the magnetic fields, it all is told there.....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-12 at 19:49:29
i meant natural Magnetic fields. It could be that. Scientists used fake ones to do it themselves. The natural fields could have been increased with the amount of wave increases that have happened over the last 50 years or the testing done with radiation in the 50's.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-12 at 19:58:33
I think all the sources you guys are getting your information confirming/unconfirming crop circles are crap and probably all fake.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-06-12 at 20:19:37
Amen to that Devilesk. Kept_Wheat, you don't sound very convincing at all.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-12 at 21:44:55
QUOTE(devilesk @ Jun 12 2005, 04:58 PM)
I think all the sources you guys are getting your information confirming/unconfirming crop circles are crap and probably all fake.
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If you had an open mind, and wasn't closed, you would realize that many people in here, have good points. You just need to learn that you aren't always right, and people aren't always wrong. Yeah, it could be fake, but couldn't it also be real?????

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i meant natural Magnetic fields. It could be that. Scientists used fake ones to do it themselves. The natural fields could have been increased with the amount of wave increases that have happened over the last 50 years or the testing done with radiation in the 50's.


I meant that too. If you test the natural magnetic fields around some crop circles, they will be at normal. But at some, the magnetic fields have increased. The only possible explaination for that, is if some alien lifeform has "landed" there. Or the land just got whacked out at that area, which is highly doubtful.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-06-12 at 22:14:50
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I think all the sources you guys are getting your information confirming/unconfirming crop circles are crap and probably all fake.

Wait... they had sources? To me it seemed like they were pulling crap out of their asses.

Seriously, though:
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If you had an open mind, and wasn't closed, you would realize that many people in here, have good points. You just need to learn that you aren't always right, and people aren't always wrong. Yeah, it could be fake, but couldn't it also be real?????

They have good points, but I never saw anyone state explicitly that it wasn't extra-terrestrial life, only that it could be fake.
Might I as well call you closed-minded for not believing that humans could have done it themselves?
I think I will.
You're close-minded.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-12 at 22:20:54
I'm not saying that Humans don't and cant do it. They can. But I believe that it is ALIENS that do. Humans can, and probibly do. A few % of the crop circles.

You need to pay more attention.....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-06-12 at 23:02:44
That I do.
I need to stop posting at SEN when I'm tired...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FrAZ428 on 2005-06-13 at 01:09:11
Lol EzDay2... Personally I'm not convinced either way. I've seen a lot of things on aliens and was more interested in them than I am now, and I'm convinced they're just a portion of our imagination. Therefore I assume crop circles are man-made things, though I'm open to being wrong in that point. I all ways try to keep an open-mind on everything...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-06-13 at 08:12:24
I betcha the government pays big money for the people in the crop circle trade.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FrAZ428 on 2005-06-13 at 15:15:50
QUOTE(DevliN_ @ Jun 13 2005, 08:12 AM)
I betcha the government pays big money for the people in the crop circle trade.
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Lol, most likely. Soldiers also tend to encourage the rumors surrounding Area 51 too. Probably just a big scam to cover up some super weapon being made or something of that sort. That'd be saweetness dude..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-13 at 15:17:32
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jun 12 2005, 10:20 PM)
I'm not saying that Humans don't and cant do it.  They can.  But I believe that it is ALIENS that do.  Humans can, and probibly do.  A few % of the crop circles.

You need to pay more attention.....
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You're an idiot, I never said it wasn't possible and if you read what I said I was also saying BOTH sides didn't have much evidence, you can't conclude anything from those pictures because they are crap. I'm sure that someone searching a picture for crop circles on google will give reliable results. Anyone could make up anything even the farmers who claim they saw it.

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confirming/unconfirming


Notice those TWO words.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-06-13 at 15:45:24
QUOTE(DevliN_ @ Jun 13 2005, 08:12 AM)
I betcha the government pays big money for the people in the crop circle trade.
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lol I have loved your [sarcasm] [/sarcasm] throughout this discussion ^_^ uberwoot.gif wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-13 at 20:20:45
QUOTE(FrAZ428 @ Jun 12 2005, 10:09 PM)
Lol EzDay2... Personally I'm not convinced either way. I've seen a lot of things on aliens and was more interested in them than I am now, and I'm convinced they're just a portion of our imagination. Therefore I assume crop circles are man-made things, though I'm open to being wrong in that point. I all ways try to keep an open-mind on everything...
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How can aliens not be real? They may be, but they may not be. I do not believe that we are the only "Intelligent" things in the universe.

QUOTE(FrAZ428 @ Jun 13 2005, 12:15 PM)
Lol, most likely. Soldiers also tend to encourage the rumors surrounding Area 51 too. Probably just a big scam to cover up some super weapon being made or something of that sort. That'd be saweetness dude..
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I have a thing for you to think about. Ever heard of the Roswell Crash? It happened in the 50's correct? If you think about it, the technology at the begining of the 50s, blew major ass. All of the sudden, this Roswell Crash happend, and we are comming out with plastics, lazers, and many, many other things, waaaaay to advanced (Probibly about 20 years in the future) for the 50s. Now. Couldn't it be a possibility that an "Alien Spaceship" crashed, and we absorbed their technology?

Just a though.

QUOTE(devilesk @ Jun 13 2005, 12:17 PM)
You're an idiot, I never said it wasn't possible and if you read what I said I was also saying BOTH sides didn't have much evidence, you can't conclude anything from those pictures because they are crap. I'm sure that someone searching a picture for crop circles on google will give reliable results. Anyone could make up anything even the farmers who claim they saw it.
Notice those TWO words.
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Before you start calling anyone an idiot, look in the mirror.

First off, I wasn't even talking to you, you jackass, I was talking to EzDay2 you ***king moron! I was commenting on how he needs to pay attention to what I was saying before calling me closed-minded.

Second, you have no right to call me an idiot. All of your posts are feeble, and inadiquate, and even irrelevent.

Third, why don't you go piss off? I am of a higher intelligence then your pathetic, and little brain. So before you start flamming me, think about what you are posting, and who you are posting about, and actually, plan something out for a change. Who knows, it mite get you somewhere?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-13 at 21:03:17
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If you had an open mind, and wasn't closed, you would realize that many people in here, have good points. You just need to learn that you aren't always right, and people aren't always wrong. Yeah, it could be fake, but couldn't it also be real?????


Oh yes how could I have missed that! You were obviously talking ot Ezday2 when you said that!

Oh wait, no, this is what you were replying to IDIOT:

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QUOTE(devilesk @ Jun 12 2005, 04:58 PM)
I think all the sources you guys are getting your information confirming/unconfirming crop circles are crap and probably all fake.


Maybe you should remember who you are quoting.

EDIT: Ok when i said:

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You're an idiot, I never said it wasn't possible and if you read what I said I was also saying BOTH sides didn't have much evidence, you can't conclude anything from those pictures because they are crap. I'm sure that someone searching a picture for crop circles on google will give reliable results. Anyone could make up anything even the farmers who claim they saw it.


I misquoted one of your replies above.
it should have been this:

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If you had an open mind, and wasn't closed, you would realize that many people in here, have good points. You just need to learn that you aren't always right, and people aren't always wrong. Yeah, it could be fake, but couldn't it also be real?????
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-13 at 21:05:19
QUOTE(devilesk @ Jun 13 2005, 06:03 PM)
Oh yes how could I have missed that! You were obviously talking ot Ezday2 when you said that!

Oh wait, no, this is what you were replying to IDIOT:
Maybe you should remember who you are quoting.
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Maybe if you wasn't such an idiot, and would specify when calling someone an idiot, then no one would have this problem. Moron....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-13 at 21:07:28
Yes you call me closeminded when I am considering both possibilities and points of views. I call you an idiot because calling me closeminded makes you an idiot.

Rofl "specify"? I quoted the exact situation and the replies you made and what I was referring to.

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Third, why don't you go piss off? I am of a higher intelligence then your pathetic, and little brain. So before you start flamming me, think about what you are posting, and who you are posting about, and actually, plan something out for a change. Who knows, it mite get you somewhere?


Lol yea tell me to piss off, its ironic because one of your first posts in this serious discussion forum is this insulting crap:

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If you had an open mind, and wasn't closed, you would realize that many people in here, have good points. You just need to learn that you aren't always right, and people aren't always wrong. Yeah, it could be fake, but couldn't it also be real?????
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-13 at 21:26:21
QUOTE(devilesk @ Jun 13 2005, 06:07 PM)
Yes you call me closeminded when I am considering both possibilities and points of views. I call you an idiot because calling me closeminded makes you an idiot.

Rofl "specify"? I quoted the exact situation and the replies you made and what I was referring to.
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You specified the post, AFTER you had gone ahead an called me an idiot.

Calling you closeminded makes me an idiot? You need to get your head out from your ass and pay attention to the posts more.

**ck this

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QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jun 12 2005, 10:20 PM)
I'm not saying that Humans don't and cant do it.  They can.  But I believe that it is ALIENS that do.  Humans can, and probibly do.  A few % of the crop circles.

You need to pay more attention.....
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You're an idiot, I never said it wasn't possible and if you read what I said I was also saying BOTH sides didn't have much evidence, you can't conclude anything from those pictures because they are crap. I'm sure that someone searching a picture for crop circles on google will give reliable results. Anyone could make up anything even the farmers who claim they saw it.


Right there, you called me an idiot for talking to EzDay2.

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If you had an open mind, and wasn't closed, you would realize that many people in here, have good points. You just need to learn that you aren't always right, and people aren't always wrong. Yeah, it could be fake, but couldn't it also be real?????


Oh yes how could I have missed that! You were obviously talking ot Ezday2 when you said that!


Next, you call me an idiot AFTER you had to go and find a quote from me where I was talking to you, after I had already been replying about how I was talking to Ezday2. Who's the idiot now?

QUOTE(devilesk)
Yes you call me closeminded when I am considering both possibilities and points of views. I call you an idiot because calling me closeminded makes you an idiot.

I think all the sources you guys are getting your information confirming/unconfirming crop circles are crap and probably all fake.


Right there proves to me that you are close-minded, and believe that the sites they are getting their info from, is fake.

Enough said. Just stfu now, becasuse we are sick of your feeble babbling.

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Lol yea tell me to piss off, its ironic because one of your first posts in this serious discussion forum is this insulting crap:

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If you had an open mind, and wasn't closed, you would realize that many people in here, have good points. You just need to learn that you aren't always right, and people aren't always wrong. Yeah, it could be fake, but couldn't it also be real?????


Insulting? I don't see any insults in that post at all. Just because I hurt your pride, doesn't mean I insult you.

You need to learn what in insult is.
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