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Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-07-02 at 00:29:31
*Sighs*

Vampire, when will you ever learn. Nothing is certain in this life, mostly...I never CUSSED. You see the censored sign as a cuss word, that's up to you. If you read what I say, nowhere in my posts do I ACTUALLY cuss(heh, much to learn on debates, eh?). You can assume that the censor sign means I am cussing, but honestly, I can insert many words into that red face, now can't I. Also, if you read I never said you called me a stupid idiot. If you're referring to my quotes, that is why they are IN quotes in the first place(quotes are used for examples, FYI shifty.gif) Now, me saying people LIKE you does not personally attack you does it. LIKE is the key word here. I never said "You screw up the world". Therefore, my post was not flame, since nowhere in it did I personally insult you. Your post(s) are because you DID personally insult me, and my IQ. In the end all you're doing is getting me more posts and getting me off-topic.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-02 at 00:32:15
This is old news, but allow me...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/05/...ain587099.shtml
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2004/...crombie_fit.php

Read the first link first, then the second. And read some of the comments in the second link...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-07-02 at 00:50:59
What I really don't like is when im accused of being racist during a conversation and not even know I was being racist and also knowing that I didn't say anything racist. You know who are REALLY angry people when it comes to racisism. Jewish people. Man oh man did I get in trouble one class becuase this jewish kid thought I was making fun of his religion....I was talking about the "Passion of the Christ" movie. This si what I said "So you have seen the Passion right?" Jew-*Ya I have, its racist to the max!* Me-"mmm how? It depicted pretty well what happened to Jesus" Jew-*what the hell!?! thats not how Jesus died* Me-"ehh ya it was" Jew -*Wtf, your racist then*..........................

Now I will admit I laugh at racist jokes all the time. Chris Rock etc.. things like "How do you fit 1,000 Jews into a little car???.......You put them in the ash-tray"

And I think most people laugh at things like that but they don't actually believe in racism. And also, not all idiots are racists, many Nazis were racist, but they were stupid people intelligently.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-02 at 03:09:28
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jul 1 2005, 05:07 PM)
Jet, you're completely clueless.  Stuff like this you just said is racist, which is what you are saying there's too much of you hypocritical bastard.  I don't know what it is with you and 'white people', there's people of different races that are racist too.  The white american man is the most discriminated person on the face of this earth, I don't get where the hell you're going.  You need to get your  censored.gif ing facts straight next time before you start saying this type of stuff.  I've heard you say shit in the past about how racist white people are, and what you just did was create a white bashing topic.  The KKK isn't even a problem anymore.  And don't continue to say that I'm racist like you used to always say.  I'm not racist towards whatever race you are, I just hate you personally.

(This is not flaming, I'm trying to get my point across, and Jet seems to be too ignorant to listen at times.)
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Sorry, while you two are in the midst of an argument that is pretty pointless, I just wanted to make sure Jet sees this, incase he only reads the last page.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vampire on 2005-07-02 at 08:29:14
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*Sighs*

Vampire, when will you ever learn. Nothing is certain in this life, mostly...I never CUSSED. You see the censored sign as a cuss word, that's up to you. If you read what I say, nowhere in my posts do I ACTUALLY cuss(heh, much to learn on debates, eh?). You can assume that the censor sign means I am cussing, but honestly, I can insert many words into that red face, now can't I. Also, if you read I never said you called me a stupid idiot. If you're referring to my quotes, that is why they are IN quotes in the first place(quotes are used for examples, FYI ) Now, me saying people LIKE you does not personally attack you does it. LIKE is the key word here. I never said "You screw up the world". Therefore, my post was not flame, since nowhere in it did I personally insult you. Your post(s) are because you DID personally insult me, and my IQ. In the end all you're doing is getting me more posts and getting me off-topic.


What you just said doesn't make any sense at all! It just looks like a poor attempt from a 9 year old to make a comeback after he was just proven wrong, honestly! Anybody can agree with me on that!

Now that I proved you wrong for what? Fourth time? Lest get back on topic, or are you gona make another desperate comeback that won't make any sense whatsoever?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tazzy on 2005-07-02 at 08:57:17
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jul 2 2005, 02:06 AM)
It's funny, black people can say the "N word" and call other "N people" the "N word" when it's really a put down to themselves because that's what the farmers used to call them in the slave day.
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They cna call other people a censored.gif , But as soon as somone calls them a censored.gif who is not black, Is classed a racsit. Thats bull crap.

From my standerd i dotn beleavein rasict stuff, The noly thing i got a probleme is When a Black person says soemthnig rasict to another race White/asain, its not racist, But as soon as a White/Asain perosn says somethnig racist to a black person ITS OMG YOUR rasist.

But I got lots of black friends and asian so i dont bleave in being rasist or anything.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-02 at 12:43:56
You know something funny?

For instance, in those links i posted, it was about this Abercrombie and Finch issue where this asian girl got rejected from their workforce because she wasn't white. Now A&F Claims they're "All-American" but that doesn't mean "All-White." And so that asian girl sued them and she won. In the second link, there were a whole bunch of comments. Here are some of them:

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I am so tired of this stuff. Whites are always being kicked around, the job market and everywhere else. We have no personal freedom, no say over anything now.

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This article yesterday made me sick to my stomach. This will continue to happen until they sue us out of existence. I like way the Asians jump onto the "poor old me, I'm a victim of racial discrimination" bandwagon. Well, I guess sueing whitey is like an early retirement for all. Let's see, where shall we go? Jamaica? Hong Kong? Let's all sue whitey. It's fun (and lucrative).

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That's it!!! I am going to sue Soul Train Fashion Outlets (real name of the stores)here in the New Orleans area. They cater to and look exclusively Black!!!
Think it will work??? Huh? Do Ya?
Me Neither.

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A&F is highly successful precisely because it is white. I take my daughter there to shop because I do not have to deal with non-whites, the staff is competent, the clothes appeal to my daughter (and me) and I have yet to have a "problem" in the store. Compare this to the stores catering to non-whites that are staffed with non-whites.

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When is this country going to wake up? There is a double-standard in this country that is sickening. Whites in America don't have the same rights as minorities. We don't have free speech rights like minorities do. Everything we say or do is scrutinized by left-wing liberals and black and Latino activists to make sure that it is politically correct. While minorities can say or do anything they like all in the name of "tolerance" and "diversity."

What is taking place in this country in the name of "multi-culturalism" and "diversity" is nothing more than an attempt to eradicate white values and the uniquely American culture. These people do not want to be our friends, they want our values and our American culture to be destroyed. Until whites in this country realize this, we are doomed to more of this type of tosh we see with the Abercrombie and Fitch story.

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What happens when non-whites lack the brains, initiative and wherewithal to start their own companies? Well, they just sue the pants of white companies for "discrimination". Maybe whites should immigrate to non-white countries and sue what few businesses they have on the basis of being "too Mexican", "too African", or "too Chinese".

First, our version of history offends the angelic non-whites, so must be watered down and made meaningless. Then, our cultural symbols come under attack, most notably the confederate flag. Then mostly white businesses were in need of diversification. Now, business marketing strategies that appear "too white" are in the cross hairs of the diversity mongers. Never mind that the NFL and NBA are too black for my liking. It's a-ok for companies to employ marketing campaigns that appeal only to non-whites, but to appeal to whites would be racist, wicked and intolerant. I wonder when it will become illegal to be white?

As Sam Francis once pointed out, only a countervailing racial supremacy can combat the militant racial supremacy and racial chauvinism of the non-whites since so called conservatives abandoned their Euro constituency long ago.

Can someone tell me how ignorant these people are?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-07-02 at 12:45:20
QUOTE(Vampire @ Jul 2 2005, 04:29 AM)
What you just said doesn't make any sense at all! It just looks like a poor attempt from a 9 year old to make a comeback after he was just proven wrong, honestly! Anybody can agree with me on that!

Now that I proved you wrong for what? Fourth time? Lest get back on topic, or are  you gona make another desperate comeback that won't make any sense whatsoever?
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i can agree with you on that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-02 at 12:53:35
Millenium, some of those guys are right... Minorities have more freedom of speech than whites... however the one about how great A&F is because it's all white, that's a little extreme.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-07-02 at 13:00:13
There is a difference between Racism and just not liking a culture:
As a whole, I hate almost all black music crazy.gif
As a whole, I hate how Ghetto people speak. (No offense,) huh.gif
As a whole, I ahte it when Black people have a chip on their shoulder against me because "your ancestors used my ancestor as a slave" helpsmilie.gif
I may be exagerating, butThat doesn't mean I'm racist, it just means I don't like the same things they do.

Being uniformed leads to racism. Racism shows a lack of respect. It's possible to not like people and still respect them , just shutt you mouth and there, you're being "neutral". mellow.gif
That's what I think.
Oh yeah, change is always gonna happen, without change, time would stop. So anybody who is against ALL types of change is a moron, because the clock hand changes along with time, so without change, the time couldn't change, see?
The No Klu Klux Klan is afraid of Change, in escence.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-07-02 at 13:13:44
I have had two reports from this thread in less then twelves hours on flame wars. Some parties have been warned. Do it again and I lock this thread.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-02 at 13:47:24
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jul 2 2005, 11:53 AM)
Millenium, some of those guys are right... Minorities have more freedom of speech than whites... however the one about how great A&F is because it's all white, that's a little extreme.
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What i think is a bit too extreme is the fact that Whites think they're being discriminated against. Maybe they should go learn about our country's History and see what true discrimination is...


Have you noticed how it's always the minorities that want to blend in with the whites and not the other way around? If a white person wanted to work at a chinese restaurant, he would probably be more than welcomed to work there, but the thing is, no white person would want to do that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-07-02 at 13:56:16
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Have you noticed how it's always the minorities that want to blend in with the whites and not the other way around? If a white person wanted to work at a chinese restaurant, he would probably be more than welcomed to work there, but the thing is, no white person would want to do that.


That's an interesting point and I wonder if it is true. It probably is, but let's take a few extremists into the view.

For one, as maddox once said, 'colored people' (god I hate that term) perfer to have special orginizations and such for people of their color. Understandable; they want to find somewhere to belong to, and whites stay out. Whites start a club of the same, and they are automatically labelled KKK even if that is not their intention.

Also, some 'colored groups' like to go so far as to say 'you wouldn't understand, you aren't [enter generic minority title here]' which is probably true. But why are they making it a big deal in the first place? Wouldn't they want white people to accept them for who they are, and be considered part of society? Isn't that what started this discussion? Than why do they [extremists] insist on making sure they are seperated from society through these clubs and orginizations and over reacting "did you fire me because I'm black?" type crap...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-07-02 at 15:04:19
QUOTE(MiLlEnNiUmArMy @ Jul 2 2005, 09:47 AM)
What i think is a bit too extreme is the fact that Whites think they're being discriminated against. Maybe they should go learn about our country's History and see what true discrimination is...
Have you noticed how it's always the minorities that want to blend in with the whites and not the other way around? If a white person wanted to work at a chinese restaurant, he would probably be more than welcomed to work there, but the thing is, no white person would want to do that.
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The point we are trying to make that every knows about what happened 150 or so years ago. We AREN'T the same white people that did that!!!!!!!!!! We are a different generation, with different views. Why should anything we do still be considered racist becuase of what people use to do. Why do minority groups always shout out racism in everything!!! Like the recent Michael Jackson case, I forgot who specifically it was, but some minority grouped called the whole case racist and such...

You may hate Arnold (governer of california), but people have called him racist for wanting a secure border so no more illegal immagrents come into his state. I want to know how that is being racist....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-07-02 at 15:51:31
QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Chris @ Jul 2 2005, 11:04 AM)
The point we are trying to make that every knows about what happened 150 or so years ago.  We AREN'T the same white people that did that!!!!!!!!!!  We are a different generation, with different views.  Why should anything we do still be considered racist becuase of what people use to do.  Why do minority groups always shout out racism in everything!!!  Like the recent Michael Jackson case, I forgot who specifically it was, but some minority grouped called the whole case racist and such...

You may hate Arnold (governer of california), but people have called him racist for wanting a secure border so no more illegal immagrents come into his state.  I want to know how that is being racist....
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I think a lot of people might be thinking this, so I will just say it. You. Are. Ignorant. If you think the Blacks were persectued 150 years or so ago you are damned wrong. Ever heard of Martin Luther King Jr.??? Jee guess not. For your information he didn't live 150 years go buddy. That's right, he was still fighting for the freedom of Blacks in the 60's. Peresecution of Blacks barely ended in late 60's/early 70's. Not 150 years ago. Give me the name of your hsitory teacher so I can slap him/her. Blacks are STILL persectued, however, not as much as the old days. Many parents, still alive might I add, were the ones who persecuted the Blacks back in the 50's etc. On the same note many grandparents were involved with that. So by you saying "It was the past it wasn't us" is PURE ignorance.

And as for Vampire...not my fault you can't understand my posts, use a thesaurus for some of those "big words", eh? You've yet to "prove me wrong", anyone can understand my post(with any logic whatsoever closedeyes.gif), and I find it ironic how you say "now let's get back on topic" then proceed to get off-topic again...hypocritical and ironic...*Sighs*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-02 at 15:55:58
Indecisive, you need to either listen a little bit and/or get your facts straight. There was NO SLAVERY WHAT SO EVER in the 1950s-'70s. That's what he's talking about, not the fact that some people may be racist and think that blacks are different from whites.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-07-02 at 16:05:52
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jul 2 2005, 11:55 AM)
Indecisive, you need to either listen a little bit and/or get your facts straight.  There was NO SLAVERY WHAT SO EVER in the 1950s-'70s.  That's what he's talking about, not the fact that some people may be racist and think that blacks are different from whites.
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My facts straight? my facts ARE straight...unless you found a mistake in my facts, please share? Thought so. I never said he meant slavery. You assumed. And how can I listen if we are on the internet...rather he meant slavery or not he 1) should have stated which he meant and 2) still needs to get his dates right.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-02 at 16:23:42
Now you're being just like devilesk, picking apart every word I say, and trying to find the smallest possible error known to man.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-07-02 at 16:32:41
Everone stop flaming. wink.gif

oh yah because someone said i didnt know what being racist was. Well they didn't say that directly to me but i knew they ment it towards me....

rac·ism
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.


Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-07-02 at 16:33:29
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jul 2 2005, 12:23 PM)
Now you're being just like devilesk, picking apart every word I say, and trying to find the smallest possible error known to man.
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What's wrong with that? It's a classical debating(what's that wrod...OMG) technique!!(found it biggrin.gif). If you don't want me doing that, add no mistakes. That would work!!! shifty.gif Long as there are still errors, I will be here to correct them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-02 at 16:36:00
There wasn't an error, the fact that I used the pronoun "he" confused you as to who I was talking about although I thought it was pretty clear.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-07-02 at 16:38:28
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jul 2 2005, 12:36 PM)
There wasn't an error, the fact that I used the pronoun "he" confused you as to who I was talking about although I thought it was pretty clear.
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Eh, was that directed at me or n20 ermm.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vampire on 2005-07-02 at 16:57:15
indecisive, you seriously need to stop talking in tihs thread, first you flamed and you refused that you did then when you had problems with my posts and then you turn on wesmic, even chris agreed to the post i directed towards you, just please stop posting in this thread so it doesn't get locked, as for your posts, none of them make sense and every time you reply its to flame somebody and not to talk about this topic.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-07-02 at 17:25:01
QUOTE(Vampire @ Jul 2 2005, 12:57 PM)
indecisive, you seriously need to stop talking in tihs thread, first you flamed and you refused that you did then when you had problems with my posts and then you turn on wesmic, even chris agreed to the post i directed towards you, just please stop posting in this thread so it doesn't get locked, as for your posts, none of them make sense and every time you reply its to flame somebody and not to talk about this topic.
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1) Read SEN forum rules before talking
2) Chris only agreed because he has held a grudge against me for calling Catholics weird
3) My posts make perfect sense to those who can read
4) You can't tell someone to stop posting
5) I have enver been warned of flaming, if I had I would leave
6) He turned on me first
7) You have yet to talk about this topic either, being a hypocrite again I see
8) Feel embarrassed that I thought of 8 things you did wrong in two sentences
9) I have NEVER talked in this WHOLE thread, so I don't know where you got that
10) This post will only get locked because of you and Wesmic, mostly you
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vampire on 2005-07-02 at 17:30:06
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1) Read SEN forum rules before talking
2) Chris only agreed because he has held a grudge against me for calling Catholics weird
3) My posts make perfect sense to those who can read
4) You can't tell someone to stop posting
5) I have enver been warned of flaming, if I had I would leave
6) He turned on me first
7) You have yet to talk about this topic either, being a hypocrite again I see
8) Feel embarrassed that I thought of 8 things you did wrong in two sentences
9) I have NEVER talked in this WHOLE thread, so I don't know where you got that
10) This post will only get locked because of you and Wesmic, mostly you


Yeap, another post just to flame us, but while we're at it, lets review.

1. I know the SEN rules
2. Chris agreed to that post because you need to stop talking about stuff that nobody understands because they make no sense, and because we need to get back on track.
3. They do? Then I guess nobody who read your post so far can read.
4. I never ordered you, I suggested.
5. Neither have I.
6. No he didn't. I suggest you re-read this entire thread.
7. I did talk about this topic, and then you replied to it by flaming me.
8. Oh you did? Can you tell me what they are then?
9. Pfft, I would get the links but theres too many and I'm a busy man so I'm not gona waste my time.
10. Nope, if it gets locked, it will get locked because of all of us you "hypocrite".

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