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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-28 at 19:38:46
umm....yeah...you started this whole topic about flammible and inflammible. now that we have prooved you wrong, you want us to post somewhere else? ha. thats a funny one.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-07-29 at 00:41:54
Proved him wrong?
What in God's name?!...

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trend caught on, and now a dictionary now says it means combustable.

Am I the only one that noticed that line?
Pointing out that recent dictionaries give them the same meaning means nothing.

And also...
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How is it we let misconception to become trend and rule our language?

He never said that the square/rectangle hacker/cracker flammable/inflammable things were the only ones.
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How is it "foolishness" and how is it "ruling" our lifestyle? So what if people create new words and give other words a new meaning. As long as the people who they are talking to can understand them then there's nothing wrong.

Evolution of language acts similarly to evolution of creatures; things can split into two different groups.
Do you like the idea of two unofficialy different versions of English in America? Oh, sure, there'll only be small differences, but that's still enough to provide confusion aplenty.
And I wouldn't put it past humans to use something as small as slight differences in language use to censored.gif something up.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Trigonometry on 2005-07-29 at 03:43:15
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umm....yeah...you started this whole topic about flammible and inflammible. now that we have prooved you wrong, you want us to post somewhere else? ha. thats a funny one.


I started that topic else where because that's arguing off the topic.

And if it'll make your little head feel better here it is, from The American College Encyclopedic Dictionary, Edited by Clarence L. Barnhart. Voume 1. Chicago Spencer Press, Inc. 1959...

in*fla*ma*ble (in flam'e bel) adj. 1. capable of be-
ing set on fire; combustable. 2. easily roused to passion;
excitable. -n. 3. something inflamable

flam*ma*ble (flam'e bel) adj. incapable of
being set of fire; not combustable

Further more on the definition suck me... There's now a topic to discuss this go there.

Now let us continue back on topic...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-29 at 04:40:35
2 words:
WHO CARES? Words change all the time, thank you all for noticing this.

Flammable, Inflammable? Who gives a :poo:. When I see a container with the message,
WARNING: FLAMMABLE, I'm gonna have a pretty good idea on what it means.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-07-29 at 09:05:39
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I started that topic else where because that's arguing off the topic.

And if it'll make your little head feel better here it is, from The American College Encyclopedic Dictionary, Edited by Clarence L. Barnhart. Voume 1. Chicago Spencer Press, Inc. 1959...

in*fla*ma*ble (in flam'e bel) adj. 1. capable of be-
ing set on fire; combustable. 2. easily roused to passion;
excitable. -n. 3. something inflamable

flam*ma*ble (flam'e bel) adj. incapable of
being set of fire; not combustable

Further more on the definition suck me... There's now a topic to discuss this go there.

Now let us continue back on topic...
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You're trying to be extremely FLAMMABLE aren't you. -.-

Guess what "flammable" means here.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-07-29 at 15:41:54
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Something I see all over the place, everywhere I turn...

Something as old as "flammable" and "hacker." As well as the square and rectangle.

Flammable use to mean not combustable. And inflammable use to mean combustable, but some person as a kid misheard it in a use of a sentence, and has used flammable as combustable, trend caught on, and now a dictionary now says it means combustable.
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Possibly because the prefix IN and IM mean not and since some :censored:head screwed it up and made it confusing, the dictionary un-confused it.

You're living through laguange evolution. Ever wonder why we don't speak Ugg anymore? Language isn't static, it's constantly changing to adapt to how people speak. Don't like it? Make a time machine and go back to speaking the original language, Ugg.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Trigonometry on 2005-07-29 at 16:01:57
Yeah a large sum of our language is elvolving, through ignorance. If you're willing to accept such terms... Start learning ebonics.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-07-29 at 17:22:31
Did you people completely ignore the last paragraph in my post?
Or are you just refusing to respond to it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-29 at 17:22:33
well, theres not a whole lot you can do about it. well....you could kill yourself...that would end all your worrying about what languige is going now wont it. but im not actualy taling you to go kioll yourself. so dotn take it opersonal. the only thing we can do is go with the flow. take it or leave it. it dosnt matter.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Trigonometry on 2005-07-29 at 17:25:54
Share additude... Shared decline.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-29 at 18:35:43
i read it, and i agreed, but i had nothing to say about it. and what do you mean trig?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-07-30 at 13:19:46
[center]Anarchy, commonly used to describe disorganization and chaos, but that couldn't be further from the true meaning. Anarchism is a political theory which aims to create anarchy, "the absence of a master, of a sovereign." In other words, anarchism is a political theory which aims to create a society within which individuals freely co-operate together as equals. As such anarchism opposes all forms of hierarchical control - be that control by the state or a capitalalist - as harmful to the individual and their individuality as well as unnecessary.
"Anarchy" means more than just "no government," it means opposition to all forms of authoritarian organisation and hierarchy.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-30 at 14:59:22
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[center]Anarchy, commonly used to describe disorganization and chaos, but that couldn't be further from the true meaning. Anarchism is a political theory which aims to create anarchy, "the absence of a master, of a sovereign." In other words, anarchism is a political theory which aims to create a society within which individuals freely co-operate together as equals. As such anarchism opposes all forms of hierarchical control - be that control by the state or a capitalalist - as harmful to the individual and their individuality as well as unnecessary.
"Anarchy" means more than just "no government," it means opposition to all forms of authoritarian organisation and hierarchy.
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There are several types of anarchists; you can't paint them with the same brush.

This article explains it some, though it is about anarcho-capitalism (you are a different type of anarchist: the dreamy leftist kind):

Wikipedia
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-07-30 at 15:27:36
people still think of Anarchy in one way ihatett so it somewhat belongs here as a misconception.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-30 at 15:43:46
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people still think of Anarchy in one way ihatett so it somewhat belongs here as a misconception.
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No, the way that people think of anarchy is what the above poster advocates, but my point was that it isn't hte only definition.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-02 at 18:00:50
thats right........there is not only one deffinition for any word...... but the most comonly accepted one is the one that takes over. like....(not to bring up old topics) the flammible and inflamible thing. when the populus took the word flammible, and made it mean cumbustible......then that was the new definiton. and since that was the widley accepted term, that was what it became.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lisk on 2005-08-03 at 11:54:18
I do remember infamable meaning it can er... catch on fire.

"You hack!!!11"
"Technically yes, but look in the dict"... BAN.

So I agree with Trig here on mostly everything happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-03 at 16:38:19
he dose have some pionts, but look at the dictionary now. words have changed. that is becuse poeple people have taken the word. put it to a diferent meaning.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-03 at 16:41:18
Yet, inflammable STILL means combustible, as well as flammable.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-03 at 23:14:16
are you sure? i havent looked in to dictionary for a while...... but why would they both mean the same thing when they are supposed to be opposits.....?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-03 at 23:16:24
The meaning of flammable changed to mean combustible, which was originally what inflammable was. Inflammable's definition hasn't changed, so it is now a synonym for flammable.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-08-04 at 00:09:36
Part of the reason things were changed like this was because of confusion when seeing large trucks carrying stuff.
People thought that "flame-able" meant that it could be set on fire, not that it could resist burning(which is my guess as to the original of the word), and that inflammable was the other one. Since there's not really any reason to say "Warning: This truck cannot explode", they became synonyms instead of swapping with each other.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-04 at 02:20:12
flammable does not mean combustable
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Screwed on 2005-08-04 at 02:35:57
Meanings of words (seemingly everything) are just associations of our knowledge that are in which derived from our experiences.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-08-04 at 02:37:35
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flammable does not mean combustable

Umm... what was the point of that post?

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Meanings of words (seemingly everything) are just associations of our knowledge that are in which derived from our experiences.

Umm... could you word that differently?
"associations of our knowledge... in which derived from our experiences"
...What? I think you got a wrong word... or five in there.
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