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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-07-29 at 09:53:18

... Rush Limbaugh is the biggest jack(synonym for donkey) to roam the world. We can only pray that he has a stroke, or a heart attack, or an OD.

Oh my...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-29 at 15:16:05

Just what I'd expect you to say Fela, well... not really, I expected you to write a poem about how he sends "1,000 cold daggers into your heart". Don't know about you, but I prefer people with character that aren't afraid to give their honest opinion. Fela, you're in the same group of idiots that almost got Kerry elected.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-29 at 15:28:55

QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jul 29 2005, 02:16 PM)

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Wesmic, you remind me of the type of guy that gets most of his opinions about politics from his parents, or people at church.

ontopic:
Loving a person just because they stand by what they mean, and have the guts to say it, is hypocritical of you isn't it? Cause you just basically insulted fela's honest opinion. He said it straight out honest, he said rush is a jack ass.

I mean, using that logic, I bet hitler was a great leader. He stood by what he said, and he had the guts to say it. You're promoting close mindedness.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-29 at 16:07:41

QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ Jul 29 2005, 02:28 PM)

I don't go to church and my mom voted for Kerry. Fela says we "pray" Rush dies. There wasn't anything wrong about him thinking Rush is a wonderful friend, many people do.
By the way, I never said Hitler was a bad leader, in fact, he was a terrific leader, look how close Hitler was to taking over the world. He was a great leader, not a great person.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-29 at 19:19:47

QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jul 29 2005, 03:07 PM)

Sorry for using leader instead of person. Let me make it be person instead. The point still remains the same.

According to your logic, hitler would be a great person, (because he stood by what he believed) but you seemed to not use it for hilter. There must've been other factors as well. (Like the whole Nazi issue) So my point is simply, don't love rush only because he stands by what he believes. Every side can stand by what they believe, big deal. Find a better reason to love him.

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And wasn't rush the one that :censored:ed about drug users and how they should all be thrown in jail, while he HIMSELF was a drug user? Ya, he has great character.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-07-29 at 19:29:24

Metadiscussion

Metadiscussion is a tactic often used by a debater that has been given a bloody nose by an opposition debater using unconventional tactics, such as being rude, obscene, or refusing to acknowledge a point on which they have been defeated.
The original debater then goes on to chastise their counterpart for their style, rather than respond to their points. This gives them time to recover from the initial assault.

I do this a lot.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-07-29 at 19:30:19

That has got me thinking - people shouldn't be bashing on Clinton for fooling around with Monica if they think Rush is a great guy.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-29 at 19:35:50

I like what your views PyschoTemplar, and I've seen a lot of them done before.

About the Internet vs Face to Face, I also would like to say that most of the time when I'm arguing with someone face to face it isn't even an intelligent argument with any reasoning or logic. It often ends up in people shouting over one another just repeating themselves and not listening to what the other person says. Also I love how on the Internet it is very easy to quote others on past things they have said. Also slows the pace of the argument down and lets you think of thoughout replies.

I've also seen the Relevancy issue come up before. Some people seem to think that if they can degrade the other person's character it will strengthen their argument when the otherside clearly has strong arguments and good facts. Such as adding "You idiot..." as a way to make them seem superior.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-07-29 at 19:38:11

Sorry it took me a while to respond. What with life and the site being down when I had a chance it took a while. truepro, stop trying to irritate PT, and stay on topic. Thank you =)

Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-29 at 21:57:01

QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ Jul 29 2005, 06:19 PM)

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Sir_Fela_the_Wise Posted Today, 06:30 PM
That has got me thinking - people shouldn't be bashing on Clinton for fooling around with Monica if they think Rush is a great guy.

I seem to be the only one here supporting Rush, so I figure you're talking about me. If you can find anywhere on this site where I bashed Clinton for the Monica Lewinsky scandal, I'll apologize and admit both of you (Alpha, Fela) are right and I'm wrong.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Shattered_moose on 2005-07-29 at 22:04:20

Wesmic: While I don't really care about rush limbaugh, I do find him rather amusing, therefor I don't do anything like "OMGOMG rush limbaugh iz t3h suxxor!".
Nuff' said.
Addition: I just realized I confused him with someone else

Report, edit, etc...Posted by T.r.u.e.P.r.o on 2005-07-29 at 22:14:38

QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jul 29 2005, 02:14 AM)

As for T.r.u.e.P.r.o., he lost my respect the day he came here with his idiotic sarcasm: http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=18060

i watched your replay and you two are the worst melee players i've ever seen

edit: you even said that game was one of your best!

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-29 at 22:20:31

QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jul 29 2005, 08:57 PM)

It's hard to say Hitler was a bad leader considering he's been closer to any other man to taking over the world. It's also hard to say he was a good person, considering what he did. I never said I "loved" Rush by the way, I just like listening to his show, he's the only one on talk radio and one of few on TV that has character and that speaks his mind. He's obviously doing something better than "every other side" considering he gets more air time than any person in the world. Rush, yeah, he had taken prescription pain killers (oh god, not pain killers!), but he went into rehab, he's clean now.
I seem to be the only one here supporting Rush, so I figure you're talking about me. If you can find anywhere on this site where I bashed Clinton for the Monica Lewinsky scandal, I'll apologize and admit both of you (Alpha, Fela) are right and I'm wrong.
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1st of all, how does he speak his mind? What seperates him from everyone else?

2nd of all, a LOT of people have character. Don't be so vague.

and finally 3rd of all, I would take no credit for being right. That would be 100% fela, not me.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-29 at 23:02:28

QUOTE(T.r.u.e.P.r.o @ Jul 29 2005, 09:14 PM)

i watched your replay and you two are the worst melee players i've ever seen

edit: you even said that game was one of your best!

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QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ Posted Today, 09:20 PM)

1st of all, how does he speak his mind? What seperates him from everyone else?

2nd of all, a LOT of people have character. Don't be so vague.

He made a comment on ESPN about black quarterbacks in the NFL that was considered wayyy too racy and got fired for it. "The media wants to see a black quarterback excel in the NFL, I don't think [Donavon] McNabb(black quarterback for those who don't follow football) is as good as people make him out to be." The African-American community exploded at this two days later (there were black people on that show, they even agreed with Rush, how ironic). Rush, considered racist gets fired from ESPN that week.
He's edgy, racy, and hits on all issues, (Hmm, kind of seems like your buddy Maddox) especially political issues.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-29 at 23:06:08

Alpha, you're really pathetic.

You are arguing with wes for the sake of arguing; step back and look at your last post. Nothing productive could ever be gained from him answering those questions.

They are completely pointless.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-29 at 23:09:10

QUOTE(ihatett @ Jul 29 2005, 10:06 PM)

Nothing productive can come from your post right there hate. And even if they are pointless, what's wrong with having a basic debate? Are you not supposed to have fun debating? And if I was off topic, a simple off topic would've done the job.

BTW - I really love it when people call me pathetic. It just brightens up my day. Which makes me think, why did you call me pathetic? Why such the harsh word? I don't think people doing a lil debate about something for fun can't be considered pathetic. Is it maybe because you just don't flat out like me? (Cause this isn't the 1st time you've talked like this to me before) Hate, just cut the bull:poo: and just say it.

Anyways, wes, he's really edgy. If you consider borderline racism edgy. (I personally think it was stupid he did get fired for that) I mean, more than half the adults I know talk like that all the time. (I got little respect on their opinions when it comes to politics or basic social issues)

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-29 at 23:28:14

What you re doing isn't a debate; a debate involves real points.

Go away from the comp, come back, and tell me you are debating him.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-29 at 23:28:59

QUOTE(ihatett @ Jul 29 2005, 10:28 PM)

What you re doing isn't a debate; a debate involves real points.

Go away from the comp, come back, and tell me you are debating him.
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Enlighten me hate, how am I not debating?

Infact, how about you go away from your comp, come back, and apologize for being an wonderful friend.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-07-29 at 23:33:20

I just want to be off-topic right now and say that Hitler did come closer to ruling the world than anyone, but in my experience (with anything) almost, carries no weigt, and Wesmic if your saying he was a good war leader I think your wrong because all he did was conquer a whole bunch of weak countries and France (which built a nonmobile fortification in a mobile war) Hitler was stupid enough to go after the U.S.S.R when they had a treaty when he could have kept bashing England and finally break through before Pearl Harbor would be attacked and the U.S. would come in.

I just don't like it when people say Hitler was a terrible person but a great war leader.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-07-29 at 23:52:58

Oh God he's back.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by T.r.u.e.P.r.o on 2005-07-30 at 00:10:55

QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jul 29 2005, 10:02 PM)

Quite honestly, there is now way you're telling the truth, especially with those strategies you listed in that one spam thread. By "best" I meant it was one of the best games I played in, not one of my best games. Me and Yenku are probably in the top 10 in melee'ers here at SEN (it's a mapmaking website after all...) So if everyone here is the worst you've ever seen, and you don't make maps, which you don't, then leave. I also find it strangely peculiar how all your posts have been directed at me or PsychoTemplar. Nice job ruining this thread once again with off topic bull:poo:, try your best not to post here again, or at least say something valid to the topic. If you just want to be a douche bag to me, then PM me or something...
He made a comment on ESPN about black quarterbacks in the NFL that was considered wayyy too racy and got fired for it. "The media wants to see a black quarterback excel in the NFL, I don't think [Donavon] McNabb(black quarterback for those who don't follow football) is as good as people make him out to be." The African-American community exploded at this two days later (there were black people on that show, they even agreed with Rush, how ironic). Rush, considered racist gets fired from ESPN that week.
He's edgy, racy, and hits on all issues, (Hmm, kind of seems like your buddy Maddox) especially political issues.
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We watched the replay online, and it was different. They were actually fighting in that game, not sitting still like in the one I watched. Wesmic said it was corrupted. I apologize for saying they were the worst players ever, because they game I saw messed up.

I then played him Protoss againt Protoss, and beat him very badly. I don't ever save replays, but two other people were observing incase they have it. Wesmic said he was tired, though, which is probably why I won easily.

It was on Lost Temple, and I kept him from ever expanding while I expanded twice. I reaver dropped while massing dragoons (which everyone said wouldn't work

). He was contained in his base the entire game, and when he came out of his base I had about 30 fresh dragoons to beat his army.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-30 at 00:23:12

QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ Jul 29 2005, 10:09 PM)

Anyways, wes, he's really edgy. If you consider borderline racism edgy. (I personally think it was stupid he did get fired for that) I mean, more than half the adults I know talk like that all the time. (I got little respect on their opinions when it comes to politics or basic social issues)
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How was that borderline racism? He never said anything offending blacks, it's what the media wants, he just highlighted it, I don't see how his comments relate towards racism, although, I would know that people would consider it racist, but whatever.

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and Wesmic if your saying he was a good war leader I think your wrong

If it weren't for the ol' U.S. he would have ruled the world.

QUOTE(truepro)

You didn't beat me badly at all, in fact the game was closer than it should have been. You didn't micro at all, in fact, at one point I killed two zealots and two goons with two probes and two goons, you just got owned micro-wise. I try my best not to make excuses, but I don't have speakers (many people I play sc with know this), therefore your reaver drop was fatal. It's also funny you told me you were massing goons, when in fact you zealot rushed and reaver dropped... Once again, bring this to a matter of PM'ing next time, no one cares.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by T.r.u.e.P.r.o on 2005-07-30 at 00:36:34

Did anyone save the replay?

I did not Zealot rush you, I built a gateway at 10 psy. I don't micro much because I am not very good at it, plus it's fine having you waste your time microing while I build more units.

I did Reaver drop, but over during the whole game I built 40-50 Dragoons, and I never built any Zealots past the first few (and of course never any High Templar. I think that counts as massing dragoons.

Also, I had 3 bases to your 1 main base so I would not call it in any way an even. Your army was easily beaten, and I could have easily rebuilt my army because I was getting lots of money.

Btw: the map that Nada played was called bifrost

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http://reps.ru/img/(2)Bifrost%20lll3.0.scx.jpg

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-07-30 at 00:43:00

I'm locking this because you've totally failed to stay on topic. Way to be tools.

If you want to continue this argument, make a new topic.

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