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Turnabout is almost unplayable... =/

Here are the images for you lazy people.

Barren Wasteland

Orange Bud

UnderWorld

birds

Chaos Shrine

Frost Valley

Turnabout

Zeratul's Ridge


There were also some maps that weren't mentioned in Moose's post, so I won't post those images.

And Chaos Shrine looks a bit unbalanced, with no flanking room, and two entrances. So close positions, Terran would probably lose to 5 pool or zealot rush and far positions, Terran would win. Not sure if this will really matter in the first few matches, though, since there are a few players I predict who will make it to the finals no matter what map. Turnabout could be played like an island map, I suppose, but still no room to build anything. The mineral placement has to be worked on also, and the center island has too much minerals and 4 gas nodes!

P.S: Wes and CheeZe ogogo!

P.S.S: They're playing each other the first round? Doh... XBakaPeterX and Blind for the finals!~

P.S.S.S: I assume my map didn't make it because it was too similar to Gamae Gowon? Now that I look at it, it does have a Gamae Gowon feel... And I'm guessing Haven was too simplistic, but it was pretty fun to play on, and if not that, it was balanced.

Turnabout looks cramped as hell with all those minerals. Also, Zeratul's Ridge has 3 choke points = death for Terran.

Turnabout has tons and TONS of critters, making the map literally unplayable.... but owell, I aint playing

Well, at least chaos shrine is not another LT ripoff like Barren Wasteland. It has a lot of possibility, as I have played it with a bunch of friends. Very interesting things occur. Besides, it was my first melee map in a long time (and probably the first good one), so I'm sorry if its not perfect but I feel that I did a good job.

(Besides, most people say zerg has the best advantage on this map... O_O)

Hey, I'm not trying to diss you or anything, just telling you some things that could be improved if you make another map so you don't do the same mistakes.

If you really want to improve your maps, post it at broodwarmaps.net and usually someone will comment on it and give you tips.

Just giving my feedback to your... feedback

Oh yeah, Turnabout is TOTALLY messed up, and Birds is a very good map. Frost valley seems way too symmetrical v.v

Noname, god damn. Good maps. Your a great map maker. Best on the site by far. Dont worry what place your maps get here. This is mostly UMS and the tourney holder doesn't know any better.

MA, good map but I dont think its number 1. I know it wasn't your choice. I think it looks like a bad LT.

My order would be Orange buds or birds for 1st and second (cant decide) 3rd underworld and 4th barren wasteland.

those maps suck

ADDITION:
The first two are alright, but the others are unacceptable.

What about us zergs?

I'll tell you about secrets I found about the maps after I won each round...heh heh heh...

I could own you any day, dragon.

sounds like a challenge to me

Who chose these maps?

erm..i kindsa noticed that when making my map, but really, 1 or 2 bunks can defend all that and once you get tanks and/or vults its easy to cover the chokes. but yah it does kinda suck for terran early game = /




but the thing im sad about is turnabout; with its unique design, it has potential to be one of the most wierd and cool maps ever made...but it was screwed by mass critter and low mineral field spamming

Most of those are aweful, but Turnabout is one of the worst maps ever made.

There is no low platform in the top half of the map, units will :poo: themselves trying to walk through it, and the mineral placement is a f*cking joke.


Sorry to sound rude, but having a tournament on these maps is... bad.

I would let the map makers have a round-2.

The hell you talking about? Barren Wasteland isn't a LT ripoff, it plays nothing like LT.

But yes I do agree that this map lacked some originality and creativity.


Didn't you say Trcc was the best? o.O

Looks like LT? IMO it doesn't look like LT. But yea, again, it lacks originality


I liked Birds alot. Infact i like all three of nonames maps. His Elephant one (which unfortunately didn't make it into the tourney maps) was pretty cool. But it isn't as good as orange bud or birds.



MiniMoose2707

EDIT:

5 out of 8 of those maps posted are completely symmetrical...

Yeah, and saying they suck helps ... how?

They weren't 'chosen'. Though the winners were, all those maps were submitted for this tournament by the authors.

I don't see you making a map for this tournament, and I dont even see you IN the tournament. Why should it matter to you? It doesn't. So keep your insulting comments to yourself because although some people here may agree with you, most of us don't want to hear it.

That's assuming you make it past a zergling rush/zealot rush.

Umm I noticed quite a few problems on almost every one of the maps. Frost valley looks to me like the best of the maps, but I like many people here have no idea about melee. Forbidden lands also looked like a great map that would be well balanced if it had been chosen.

Underworld is the first map with a central island I've seen that makes itself so prominent monetarily that it is actually beneficial to go for it.

Birds is a newb friendly map to me, at first glance. I could plant a few cannons at the door and have my main and two expos to mine from without having to defend much at all. Just simply turtling like that would give me plenty of minerals and gas.

The biggest LT rip there is orange buds, which isn't even technically a four player map. But by simply looking at the side expos anyone should see what I mean. Barren Wastelands is an LT rip too, just without the terran tank advantage from the cliffs. On this map purple's door is quite a ways away from everyone's except red's as well... which is a lucky spawn spot.

Turnabout is going to be interesting if it's played by skilled melee players. Definitely not going to please too many of them.

Also, the link to gamei gawon downloads a corrupted map- or it might be protected. Either way it would be better to be able to see it without playing it.

That's just my $0.02. I'd appreciate any other comments on the maps, saying why I'm wrong. I want to learn more about melee mapmaking.

To all whiners that aren't actually playing on these: Shut up. The authors worked hard. Even if the playing field isn't the best, the game is still good.

We're not playing on Turnabout are we Exo? >.>

...who are you?
Ya...I guess so...

Goodluck with the tournament, i think you will have a blast. About half of the maps are very nicely done and the other half atleast has very nice thoughts behind them. This half may not be suited for more competitive play though, but as i recon that is not the purpose anyway so i believe you will have a great tournament! I hope there will be some funny replays on the more unorthodox maps

Yeah, I was intending for just that. Not only does it tests the player's ability to adapt, but I my sadistic side can also pick up a few good laughs along the way.

i found a great strategy for turnabout but im still not playing that map cuz it sux0rs