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And if you want something done about it, Kell, do something yourself. Don't smoke it, don't sit on your ass and wait for the cops to bust a meth lab or some shiet. If you hear something, give the cops a tip or something.



Are you sure about that? What about down in like South America hundreds of years ago, before they had cigarettes down there. And they'd all be chewing their coca leaves. Hmmm?

I'll bet that unless they're retarded, there isn't a single person who has ever taken meth that either hasn't been told it's bad or can't use their common sense to realize that it's bad. It's like drinking car oil; no one thinks it's ok.

Okay, let's say you're 12, sitting around in your bad neighborhood, and then your best buddy's brother, who's older and you trust, comes by. He's got some meth, "Hey, snort this. It's great."

You don't know any better. So you do it. Not everyone knows.

your brother comes up to you with some oil and says, "Hey, drink this. It's great"


if you don't know better, then you sure as hell wouldn't know if it's illegal to take meth

Yeah and then humanity dies. Works for me. We're the stupidest :censored:ing idea God ever had.

See, humanity = kills everything and destroys homeworld.
No humanity = planet stays alive and no corruption of God's worst creation.

I'm not saying that people don't know what it is, I'm saying that people are easily convinced. Especially young people.

And how would making it illegal help?

Well it sure in the hell is better then making it easy for them to get the damn thing

Hahaha, let's make everything that's harmful illegal?

Or, we could simply let people do what they want, and deal with the consequences. I realize that you don't beleive in personal responsibility, but let's try it.

Oh yes. Let's all be idiots and let our presidents and burocrates become addicted to illicit drugs! Oh yes! Let us become dependent on those drugs, and have the terrorists take them away, and then we will nuke everyone because we are so :censored:ing twacked out on these drugs, and so dependent on them, we make stupid ass desisions.

Oh, but i'm sorry. I guess that is your specialality

Or, intelligent people just won't take them! Do you really think that today's business leaders would all start taking meth if it were legal?

Come on man, stop being a fascist.

How am I facist because I am stating a point?

Everyone is right about you.

You come up with these dillusions in your head, and use them as "plausible" arguments.

When you learn how to debate, come back.

Oh, and yeah. They would have because if it were legal, there would not be anybody posting the truth about it. Commons sense

But I guess you lack in that department.

You are a fascist because you want to make personal decisions for other people. You think they can't be trusted to run their own lives, so you want to do it for them.



Hahah @ the content and execution of that statement.

Do you really think that as long as something is legal that no one knows the truth about it? Do people know it's bad for you to drink car oil? Yes. Is it legal? Yes.

I don't even think I can argue with someone of your intelligence. Anyone who thinks that the entire world would become addicted to meth as soon as it becomes legal is an idiot. In fact, usage of meth would probably go down, because the "cool" factor is gone.

Plus, it costs a sh*tload to run a drug war.

How am I an idiot? Because I can see the deadly potential of Meth?

Would you want someone putting that :poo: in your food? Because that's what's going to happen if you make it legal. Meth will be in everything.

And why do you use examples that are clearly, bad?

Why not use examples such as, "This dude slipped this in the drink and this happend"

Oh yes. I forgot. You're to arrogent to comprehend that someone is smarter and more intelligent then you, not saying I am, but most SEN members accel way above your intellegence. And you are to egotistical to actually consider the thoughts of someone else to be plausible.

Your attempts at trying to hurt my feelings are feeble and weak.

Get a life.

I have to agree with ihatett here about certain comments Kellimus has made.



... Yea I'm sure everyone in the government would do it as well, and let the president do it as well.

Kellimus, try applying your ideas to yourself. If meth was legal, would you take it on purpose along with all the other "idiots" you say will do it? If you don't then what makes you so special, and why wouldn't others be able to do the same?



Yes, that's why many other legal drugs are in our food already.

I'm not saying that people wouldn't do it. I'm saying that eventually, the whole US would be hooked on it, even if they didn't do it.

Why? Because it will somehow be "slipped" into our food? Really, I can't think of many ways you would get slipped meth. If you buy food from a supermarket it really won't have meth if it's made from a reputable producer. If you eat out at a restaurant it won't have meth for the same reason people don't slip you other legal drugs in there.

Even if most of America is hooked on it, it doesn't mean they will try to get others hooked by slipping people it. And if people ARE slipped meth, they probably won't even know it's meth they are addicted to! They will probably just go through painful withdrawal without knowing what's wrong with them.

And I'm sorry, but that comment just made no sense. I can get hooked on a drug by not doing it?

Um.. What do you think chocolate or caffiene is?

That's not what makes you an idiot; I see the "deadly potential" as well. Perhaps a reread of my post is in order? I explained pretty clearly why you are an idiot.



Do people go around dumping rat poison in people's food? What about gasoline? Paint? Chlorine? Anything? No. Just because something dangerous is legal, doesn't mean that people will run around putting it in people's food. In fact, the act of doing that is illegal.



See my comment above, it answers it quite nicely.



I'm smarter than every guy here at SEN that have arguements such as this one, yes. This discussion only supports that.



I just hate socialists and fascists.

Yes chocolate and caffeine are slipped into people's food all the time. I'm sure they aren't listed as ingredients of food packages as well.

I know man. I have to gaurd my food at restaraunts from all the people trying to slip me caffiene.

What I meant by that is that Chocolate and Caffiene are considered "drugs" because they are stimulants.

Nice twisting my meaning around. Both of you.

Nice job doging my real post. It looks good when you do that. In addition, that lone comment ties along with my actual post, if you had read it.

edit: And I can see why devilesk was confused... your comment makes no sense at all, and his interpretation is the best.

Does that really matter if they are considered "drugs" because they are stimulants? You are totally missing the point of most of the posts.

Reading back I don't even know what saying:


What does that have to do with anything?

The reason I replied the way I did was because from your very vague reply, which I assumed had SOMETHING to do with my post, since you quoted it, I thought that you were talking about the issue of people "slipping" things into other people's food.

You didn't even address this part of my post:



So, now that you clarified what you were talking about, I have a few questions

1. How does that originally relate to my post?

and

2. What does it matter if they are stimulants/drugs? Does it change the fact that people know what they do, and decide to ingest them with the full knowledge of what they are doing?

Honestly, as ihatett said, it makes less sense now that you've explained what you "really" meant.

Don't blame us because you tried to make a cute one-liner that doesn't make sense, and doesn't even relate to the post you quoted.

First response in 3 pages. *sighs*




Yes, everything should be legalized. Such as killing or just setting your house on fire because you love to burn things.


There is such a thing as "Permanent damage". I don't know if you've heard of it, but scars are one of these things. The same effect can be used on any drug, especially since they are so destructive to the human body (while producing a "nice" side effect).


Let's assume everyone who tries the drug either dies or becomes mentally retarded (or something of that sort). Let's say this isn't the only drug that has this effect either. There things called peer pressure or even death threats that will make a person try these things. A perfectly normal person. Of course, since you want massive deaths, I think I can label you as a bad totalitarian leader. One who wants to kill everyone who did something (whether it was in their power or not).

Minor note, I thought bypassing or replacing letters of these words were not allowed?


While I, too, want natural selection to take place; this isn't natural selection. This is still human selection. A better alternative is simply to not allow dumb people to go to college. It's "natural" because it allows the people to focus on the ones that actually are smart (which is "evolution" based) rather than letting people die because of something they can't control.


You realize most people try these things because of of the "cool" side effects of the drugs right? People use drugs for these reasons; everyone human knows that if it's bad for you, don't do it. The problem is, there is a slight "good" in these kind of drugs and they think this "good" outweighs the bad.

By the way, for someone who claims to be so smart, it's "they're", not "their".


Besides the fact that it limits the access to these drugs to the children?


No, if you make everything harmful illegal, then there would be no fear in this world. No fear will result in revolts. However, while I agree with everyone having responsibility, you seem to realize the human mind is not always filled with facts. People are lied to all the time; simply because you know it's bad does not mean others do. Perhaps you should try thinking beyond yourself?


Like I said, mass revolts.


Of course I would think they would do such a thing. Espcially those people, they think they're the greatest people in the world and can handle this stuff. Guess what, you're wrong. You can't handle it. Besides, it's not whether or not they will do it; it's the fact that they can. And if you they do, what will you say? I'm going to stick with my idea of mass revolts of that happens.

Another thing, stop labeling people. You have no idea what you're talking about when you say "stop being a fascist". I already labeled you and I provided reasoning for why I think so. If you label people, maybe you should do the same rather than just calling them that so other people will think they look bad.


There will always be someone who will know the truth about it; the problem is, if it get's so widespread, it wouldn't matter. I doubt it would even if it were legal but I don't like the idea of being able to access something so dangerous so easily. Espcially to young people.


Yay! The problem is, you're (sort of) wanting the same. It's pretty obvious from your "arguements" that you secretly want people to take this drug and let them die. You don't care what happens to them at all. This is much like how Stalin wanted to revolutionize Russia even at the cost of so many lives. Would you like me to label you as a communist now?


Do you become addicted to drinking car oil? No.
Do you get an awesome feeling after taking it? Possibly, I don't know since I haven't drank it
Do you feel depressed after you stop drinking? I doubt it

Get the differences of things before making such an absurd comparison. Maybe you should use marijuana. While not on the same scale, at least it's the same type.


On the contrary, the "cool" factor should rise. The "coolness" of a drug is often dependant upon the amount of persons using it. Thus, if more people use it, you will be "fitting in" and it will be "cool". Maybe you didn't learn this in health class.

I would also advice you to stop the flaming since you seem to be only person that's doing it every other post. (Only because the other post is usually just a one liner.)


Well, seeing as how the President is Bush and people liked him, I wouldn't be suprised in such actions. While this may be an opinion, ihatett said he would be happy if the dumb people died because of this. From my point of view, Bush is a dumb person (C+ student at best), so ihatett should be happy about his death if he were to use it.


You're using the word "drug" wrong. Drugs are a lot of things. There are drugs in food, but a lot of it is helpful. Do you think putting meth in your food is helpful? No? Well, since you want it legal, guess what's going to eventually happen? It may not happen soon nor in 30 years, but it will eventually happen. It doesn't even have to be this particular drug!


This arguement has no backbone. Simply because they are "good" doesn't mean their minds will eventually break. I've said it already, it doesn't have to be the current people who do this. Generations change. Besides, you're being close minded about it simply not being possible. Let's say it happened and it was legal. Would you be happy? I wouldn't. Right now, if it happened, you have the right to sue them.


Likewise, I have clearly stated why you are communist. Despite your "capitalist" outer designs.


Do you know how many drugs there are in food? A lot. Want proof? Go ask restaurants exactly what's been put into it. You'll notice many things you've probably never heard of.

Of course, many of these things are good, as I've said before; but the fact is, if it's legal, then people can do it. I am not saying they will, but the potential of it is more than enough for me to not allow such legalization to happen.


Mr. Smart Pants can't spell "such" correctly. What do you think of my intelligence? Crappy? Judging from your previous responses to what I've said, you'll probably just call me close minded even though I have clearly showed you are the one who is ruling out options.


I hate communists.


Nice job dodging his arguement to prove your arguement wrong. Also, his arguement makes perfect sense. Those things are drugs and they are put into food. I wouldn't call it "slipped in" since you can easily taste it. There are drugs that you cannot taste and will only make the food healthier. These, I would say are good, but then, there are those that make you sick. I'm sure you want that.


Point addressed, I await counter point.

NOTE:
If you say something that I already addressed, then it means you didn't read my post. If you don't read it, it only shows further close mindedness. I'm sure you don't want to look silly because of that.