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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-07 at 18:37:30
QUOTE(EzDay281 @ Aug 7 2005, 05:34 PM)
I'm "stupid" because I'm wondering why the topic is suddenly about whether Kame really is male or not?
Answer my question before you call me "stupid". And also, I would like to be told how my wondering implies that I didn't read the topic-post.
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It's obvious, man.

I gave the reasons in the original post why he shouldn't be a mod, and none of them included Kame being a guy. I only mentioned Kame being a guy when I was wondering why I was suspended for 7 days (just read the post).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-08-07 at 18:37:59
I feel that the admins and mods are unsure of what to do, so let me give you a little hint.

-Delete this topic, along with every other stupid topic that's supposed to be "controversal."
-Disable ihatett's topic-posting abilities for awhile.


But in the end, it's YOUR decision.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-08-07 at 18:40:24
Moderators can't suspend someone if they're just voicing their opinions regardless of how strange it is. Now if they're flaming or just spamming, that's a different story.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-08-07 at 18:43:36
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-Disable ihatett's topic-posting abilities for awhile.
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It won't make him feel any remorse and just give him justification to talk more :flaming pile of poo: about SEN's members.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-08-07 at 18:43:47
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It's obvious, man.

I gave the reasons in the original post why he shouldn't be a mod, and none of them included Kame being a guy. I only mentioned Kame being a guy when I was wondering why I was suspended for 7 days (just read the post).

And when did I say that you used Kame's being a liar or not as an argument against her being a mod?
I only asked why that seems to be the primary discussion in this topic.
So, I call you "stupid" for assuming that I was implying such when all I asked was a completely valid question that this topic is completely relevant to.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-08-07 at 18:52:14
-_-; Oi. The chu is loose. (Rhyming would be better if it was Moose cry.gif )
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-07 at 18:52:35
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What in God's name does Kame's gender have to do with whether she should be a mod or not?


You asked me this. If you had read the original post, or paid any attention to it, you would have realized that his gender has anything to do with it. Other people started talking about it, as I'm sure you now know.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-08-07 at 18:57:41
I asked whoever happens to be looking at my post that.
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If you had read the original post, or paid any attention to it, you would have realized that his gender has anything to do with it. Other people started talking about it, as I'm sure you now know.

Has anything to do with this?
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Kame Da Sniper should not be a mod.

He repeatedly suspends Wesmic and I for no reason other than he disagrees with us. We don't spam more than others, and we don't flame more than we get flamed. But because Kame disklikes us, he feels he has the right to suspend us at will, without providing any real reason for it.

He'll say, "You were spamming", or "you were flaming", when everyone else was doing the aforementioned as well. Often times, he won't give a link.

I was recently suspended for either 6 or 7 days (I'm not sure) for absolutely no reason other than the fact that I'm on Kame's bad side. It may have been for pointing out that Kame is a guy; I have no way of knowing.

Someone like him should not have moderator abilities. I'm not saying you should ban him or anything like that... I'm just saying that it's time to let someone more deserving take his place as a moderator (obviously not me).

I don't see any mention of it there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-07 at 19:03:32
1. Yes, they have to do with each other in that one was explaining what the other does not contain.


2. I didn't realize you switched all of a sudden from talking to me to talking to everyone.

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QUOTE(chuOS @ Aug 7 2005, 05:36 PM)
That was the warn that resulted in your suspension.  That is supposed to be 2-3 weeks ago?

The only warn before that resulting in your suspension (by her) was:
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I was never told of that, I don't believe.

I know that Kame once raised my level for "spamming", in a thread that everyone was spamming in. He didn't believe me, so I sent him links. I don't know whether or not he raised the level of other people.



Oh yea, one more thing to add to my earlier posted list that I completely forgot about. It is one of the biggest factors.
  • Act completely girly when trying to present a "girly" view.
  • Forgot about being a girl and act completely masculine at other times.
  • Gets bored of acting like a girl and decides to switch back and forth.
  • Get extremely defensive (suspending me for 7 days, anyone?) when someone acuses them of being a guy.

#3.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-08-07 at 19:05:21
Then why don't you post in detail about these situations so the admins can do something about it? It's obviously not helping to be vague and generalize what you see happening.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-07 at 19:08:21
I did contact Kame, and he obviously didn't do anything about it.

Also, if 100% warning level suspends you for 3 days, why was I suspended for 7?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-08-07 at 19:09:49
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1. Yes, they have to do with each other in that one was explaining what the other does not contain.

Okay, explain it carefully.
I'm not understanding why Kame having supposedly lied about her gender is reason to take away her modship.

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2. I didn't realize you switched all of a sudden from talking to me to talking to everyone.

Huh?
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And lastly...
What in God's name does Kame's gender have to do with whether she should be a mod or not?

I don't see your name anywhere in there. I don't see anything that implies that I was directing this question to you in particular.

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Gets bored of acting like a girl and decides to switch back and forth.

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Quoting please?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-08-07 at 19:16:03
First, Ihatett, Kame hasn't posted in here, yet many people have saying she is a good mod, and that proves that people aren't overly upset.
When people are willing to fight your battles without being asked, that's a sign you're well liked.

Also, I believe you to be quite the... troublemaker on sen Ihatett, it's totaly fine to disagree, and i respect your opinions, but I don't respect you at all once you start flaming/spamming. In a couple of my topics trouble usualy started after u posted, I'm not gonna bother quote anything because that's my point of view.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-08-07 at 19:17:07
QUOTE(ihatett @ Aug 7 2005, 06:08 PM)
I did contact Kame, and he obviously didn't do anything about it.

Also, if 100% warning level suspends you for 3 days, why was I suspended for 7?
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Kame is not an admin. I dont see how you would think she is.

100% warn level actions generally depends on the person and the reason for suspending that person.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-07 at 19:28:42
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Okay, explain it carefully.
I'm not understanding why Kame having supposedly lied about her gender is reason to take away her modship.


I'm not even going to answer you anymore. You not only didn't read the original post, but you didn't pay any attention to any of my recent responses. Read them, then come back. Thanks. Plus, you act ilke you aren't talking to me even when you quote me and respond. Ridiculous.


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QUOTE(chuOS @ Aug 7 2005, 06:17 PM)
Kame is not an admin.  I dont see how you would think she is.

100% warn level actions generally depends on the person and the reason for suspending that person.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-08-07 at 19:33:10
I think you're confusing moderators and admins as the same thing. An admin (administrator) is usually someone who owns or controls the website (from the most highest level). A moderator is just someone who polices the forums or sections of the forums.

Like I'm an admin of my site (chuiu.com) but a moderator of this site.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-07 at 19:35:26
What?

I never called him an admin, so why did you make your comment saying "he isn't an admin"?

I though you were trying to say that only admins can raise the warning level, but if that isn't what you were saying, then why did you say that?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-08-07 at 19:39:31
I asked you why you didn't post in detail about situation so that admins could do something about it. You posted that you contacted Kame about it and nothing was done. Then I asked you how you interpreted Kame as and admin and you posted a warn PM you recieved from her.

I never said or tried to say that admins are the only people who can raise warn levels. But I am saying that admins are the only people who can deal with moderators who are abusing their power and are the right people to go to when you feel you have been wronged by a moderator.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-08-07 at 19:41:51
The only thing I've seen her do is be a bit lock happy.
She does posses an inbred loathing for wesmic, too.

Other than that she's not bad.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-07 at 19:42:13
QUOTE(chuOS @ Aug 7 2005, 07:17 PM)
Kame is not an admin.  I dont see how you would think she is.

100% warn level actions generally depends on the person and the reason for suspending that person.
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I remember Yoshi was very lenient with my on my first suspension, I only got one day biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-07 at 19:49:12
QUOTE(chuOS @ Aug 7 2005, 06:39 PM)
I asked you why you didn't post in detail about situation so that admins could do something about it.  You posted that you contacted Kame about it and nothing was done.  Then I asked you how you interpreted Kame as and admin and you posted a warn PM you recieved from her.

I never said or tried to say that admins are the only people who can raise warn levels.  But I am saying that admins are the only people who can deal with moderators who are abusing their power and are the right people to go to when you feel you have been wronged by a moderator.
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I see what you meant now.

Well, I contacted him, and I posted this. I also provided the link to the thread he said I was spamming, when everyone else was spamming.

Also, I'm on the bad side of the admins (as is wesmic), and since Yoshi is in love with Kame, there is little doubt that any action would be taken against him.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-08-07 at 19:50:01
IP is very impartial as he rarely participates. You should contact him instead then.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-08-07 at 19:53:11
ihatett, link doesn't work, might wanna copy shortcut instead. Kame, well, is just well-liked.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-07 at 19:57:58
I'll do that next time Kame decides he wants to take out his hatred using the suspend button.

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ihatett, link doesn't work, might wanna copy shortcut instead. Kame, well, is just well-liked.
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http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=18403

He is well liked (because people think he is a girl), but if you really think about it, that's no reason to have moderator abilities.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-08-07 at 20:00:21
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I'm not even going to answer you anymore. You not only didn't read the original post, but you didn't pay any attention to any of my recent responses. Read them, then come back. Thanks. Plus, you act ilke you aren't talking to me even when you quote me and respond. Ridiculous.

Why is your favoured 'argument' that "you didn't read my posts, go back and read them"?
Well, then, allow me to quote some more.
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Why in God's name did you not read my original post? I don't believe how stupid you are.

Hmm. I asked what Kame's gender had to do with this topic, since the topic seemed to have moved to that subject rather than whether Kame is fair or not.
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It's obvious, man.

I gave the reasons in the original post why he shouldn't be a mod, and none of them included Kame being a guy. I only mentioned Kame being a guy when I was wondering why I was suspended for 7 days (just read the post).

If anything, that justifies my question.
The original post said absolutely nothing about Kame being a guy, and later on that's all that seems to be discussed, and I asked why.
So, is the reason we were discussing the reason Kame is a male or not is because it wasn't the original thread topic? The fact that we were discussing Kame's gender and the fact that you didn't say anything about it in the first post are the only bits of information that matter I could get.

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You asked me this. If you had read the original post, or paid any attention to it, you would have realized that his gender has anything to do with it. Other people started talking about it, as I'm sure you now know.

You still haven't answered my question. If Kame's gender has "anything" to do with the topic, then what is it?

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1. Yes, they have to do with each other in that one was explaining what the other does not contain.


2. I didn't realize you switched all of a sudden from talking to me to talking to everyone.

Ah, so you're saying that because they're different subjects they're related to each other?
You know what? I'm not so stupid I can't see circular logic. Don't try to dodge questions with it.
And before you say "what circular logic your dumb!!"...
Me: Why is Kame's gender the main focus of our discussion?
You: It wasn't discussed before, so we're discussing it now.
Me: Ya, but what does it have to do with the topic?
You: I already answered your question, you obviously didn't read my posts, which I am saying despite the fact that you have responded to and quoted them.


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I'm not even going to answer you anymore. You not only didn't read the original post, but you didn't pay any attention to any of my recent responses. Read them, then come back. Thanks. Plus, you act ilke you aren't talking to me even when you quote me and respond. Ridiculous.

I quoted the original post and pointed out that, despite Kame's gender having "anything" to do with the topic, it wasn't mentioned in the first post. How could I have not read it if I knew what it said?
I've responded to every post that was, so far as I could tell, directed at me or related to the subject of Kame's gender. Don't try to give me any "You didn't read them" bullcrap. You're bad at dodging questions.
Act like I'm not talking to you? Just because I said that my original question was directed at whoever was reading it doesn't mean that I'm saying that the rest of my arguments weren't either.

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He is well liked (because people think he is a girl), but if you really think about it, that's no reason to have moderator abilities.

I respected Kame before I saw her claim to be female. What about that?
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