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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-25 at 02:27:06

Why let them sit and relax in prison? make them work! Don't make society support them. If they refuse, kill them. Not back-breaking 18 hour days. but work.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-25 at 09:23:55
QUOTE(durk-A-dur @ Aug 25 2005, 02:10 AM)
have you ever been to jail? you cant just read aobut it and know what its like. you can read about it all you want, but youll never know. when people wright things, they tend to exagerait. they play with the story alittle here and alittle there untill it is a fiction, and we will never know, cus we werent there. there is no way to know what something is like until you have actualy done it.
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Trying reading the story first.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-08-25 at 09:29:03
[center]I like the death penalty in theory, the exceution of it sucks. We don't enforce it equally. Killing a cop makes it much more likely that you're going to get a death sentance, than killing a janitor or some random hobo. We need to realise that ALL poeple that have been murdered diserve justice. Is locking someone away for 20 years really giving justice? In my eyes; You intentionally kill someone, you should be killed. Unintentional deaths are a different story, though... If you're driving drunk and kill someone, you shouldn't have to die, you should just be sent to jail for a lengthy period.
Errm.. yeah, I'm done.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-08-25 at 10:44:41
i think pedophiles should be castrated and murderers should be killed the same way they kill people unless it was unintentional. is their such thing as intentional manslaughter ?? :-P
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-08-25 at 12:08:10
Yeah, there are provisions of the law that allow for manslaughter charges even though the death was not an accident.

I believe that there are crimes that warrant execution. Sometimes, someone can do something so horrible that they deserve death. Sometimes, the motives for committing murder can blur the line. For instance, suppose your neighborhood were overrun with gangs and someone was so fed up that they killed one of the gang members out of rage. I don't think such a killing, although intentional, makes the person deserve the death penalty. But serial killers, people that endanger the country with acts of treason, and other cold, calculation crimes like that do warrant the death penalty.

Those are my two cents.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2005-08-25 at 12:19:44
Personally i agree with Capitol Punishment. But not in some of the forms they give it in.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Forsaken on 2005-08-26 at 12:14:54
They should bring back the Electric Chair and the noose. Ever since they brought in the lethal injection, death penalty statistics went up. Mainly because the needl doesn't hurt. It's mire or less like what they do with your dog when it gets severely hurt.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-26 at 12:41:30
I just thought of something, an alternative way to kill someone would be to just lock them up in a dark room and let them just die of starvation. You could just forget about the person until they die. It will probably be pretty "painful" and lonely in there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-08-26 at 12:52:24
[center]Ever notice how they clean your arm with alcohol before they give you the lethal injection? What, they don't want you to go the hell, AND have an infection?[/center]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hofodomo on 2005-08-26 at 13:05:10
Hmm, I didn't notice that, but that's pretty interesting. It's probably just for show? To say, "oooh look , I care about my victims?"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-08-26 at 13:20:01
If you're gonna kill them, at least make it be worth something. Use them for military or medical experiments. Or make them be slaves for the rest of their lives. Don't make their deaths useless.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-08-26 at 13:50:19
WOW, i thought this thread would be full of, "the death penalty is wrong bla bla bla"

QUOTE(Forsaken @ Aug 23 2005, 08:56 PM)
I say bring back the noose! censored.gif off lethal injection. I swear, that is WAY too humane. If they did something brutal and disgusting to another human being, why do they get to get off pain free? They should have a very painful death. I.E.

Slicing their tendon in their leg. (I can't remember it, the thing that let's you walk). Cut that thing and watch 'em try and walk!
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If you hang the person correctly, he dies instantly becuase his neck is snapped when he falls. But for this to work you have to have the rope on the left side of his neck.....

I am for the death penalty, but i think it should be primarily used on multiple crimes people. Because you know that it is a fact that this person is evil and not innocent. Plus, i don't want my tax money paying for crimminals so they can sit around all day in jail.....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vibrator on 2005-08-26 at 14:56:34
Wow guys, mabye we should just bring back the inquisition to? Wouldn't that be fun. Some of your views are way to extreme, has anyone thought about what if the person wasn't guilty? Your going to be killing a inocent person, or for some of your views pratically torturing him to death. Jails are no longer for imprisonment but for rehabilitation (although most governments arn't making them look like it). The whole point of most judicial systems is to give people a second chance at life. Would you guys say that someone accused of manslaughter should be put to death? Although I do agree if someone goes out on a kiling spree and kills 3+ people (and does not clearly have any sort of mental illness) that capitol punishment might be appropriate.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-26 at 16:13:38
I suggested that life in prison could be worse than the death penalty. Especially if their time in prison isn't very comfortable.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-08-26 at 16:30:08
I probably would fall under the "against it" category.

Not only does it possibly put innocent people to death, it is also more expensive than life in prison. Believe me, thats a fact.

And mostly, life in prison is far more excruciating for the criminal.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-08-26 at 16:45:24
If you make their death be apart of experiments, it'll be worth it. And if you make them be slaves for rest of their lives, that'll pay off too. Cause they'll actually be working, just not getting paid.

wonderful friend: "Well, If they're slaves, I don't want my tax money going to them for food and shelter!!!!"

Hey, wonderful friend. They're WORKING. Not sitting around. Hell, even in today's prison they work. But if you make them complete slaves, you can make them work even more. And if they think they want to die, then go send em off to the experiment thing. It not only gets the job done, but it also helps everyone out in the end. This is not rocket science people.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-26 at 17:23:54

Some people would complain about how they are people too. Well, did we make them commit a crime? Did we grab their wrist and make them stab/shoot someone? Nope. So if you don't want to be treated like this, don't commit serious crimes. This kind of stuff is not for jaywalkers or drunken brawlers. It's for rapists and murderers. I'll bet you would want justice if something horrible happened to you or your family.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-26 at 18:37:38
ok, what about bank robbers? the people that go in, steal thousands of dollars, and then leave. i think that is a major crime too. what would you all do to them?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Forsaken on 2005-08-26 at 20:53:30
QUOTE(durk-A-dur @ Aug 26 2005, 02:37 PM)
ok, what about bank robbers? the people that go in, steal thousands of dollars, and then leave. i think that is a major crime too. what would you all do to them?
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They didn't kill or hurt anyone. Money can EASILY be replaced. People's lives, simply can't be printed and redistributed. End of story.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hofodomo on 2005-08-26 at 23:26:08
Yeah, you're absolutely right. But perhaps tragedy and loss will only strengthen your resolve and will to live...or it might literally destroy you. Eh, depends on you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by jukuren on 2005-08-28 at 06:59:07
QUOTE(Ultimo @ Aug 24 2005, 02:28 PM)
I think instead of a death penalty, we should just banish them to an island full of criminals.
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Is that not what they simply did in the 18th century? We live and strive to make a better tomorrow, one where history DOESN'T repeat itself. If suddenly all our criminals ended up in some island, ie. NZ or..Whatever, would it not BE a repetition of past mistakes? So to speak, if humanity survived one ice-age..Supposedly, we can do it again. - Therefore, if criminals 'escaped' in the 18th century, it means they still are able to do so. Would you want an island filled with criminals running around? It would be 'immoral' as subjective logic tells of. Would-it-not? Another thing is, we simply do have that type of resource now. Now do we? Everyone is going for bigger land, more living space...Who is going to spare a part of their country for you to set aside these convicts? Answer: No one, well..No one who is sane enough.

Finally, think to it. 2 brains are better than one, 2 hands lift more weight, if you get all these convicts together, they provide a large force of vengence and hatred which will be turned against whoever-placed-them-there. Furthermore, it WOULD be a repeat of history.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-28 at 19:00:57
You couldn't just leave them on the island to do whatever they wanted. You would still need to guard them and watch over them to prevent them from rebelling or something. I don't see how that would be different from a prison though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by m2nello on 2005-08-29 at 17:18:06
QUOTE(devilesk @ Aug 28 2005, 07:00 PM)
You couldn't just leave them on the island to do whatever they wanted. You would still need to guard them and watch over them to prevent them from rebelling or something. I don't see how that would be different from a prison though.
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I agree
It is a prison because an island full of convicts is kind of how australia was formed
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-29 at 21:17:10
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I agree
It is a prison because an island full of convicts is kind of how australia was formed


That has no relevance to what I was saying and it barely makes sense. Not to mention you missed the point of what I was saying.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-08-31 at 16:30:36
it has about...
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Hey, if you're for the death penalty, what forms of such punishment should be allowed?
(Examples are, electric chair, firing sqaud, lethal injection...)
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