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Too bad it's the same as my point, which I tried to prove before you, OWNT.

You people are just trying to get this locked, aren't you?
I'm trying to be serious...

... I'm being serious too. What, are you not taking my belief of the Flying Spaghetti Monster seriously? I'll take that as an insult! I'm starting a holy war against you in the name of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

My point is proven....

Well my point has been proven.

I would say that this is what most people do in fact do but they want conformation for what they beleive so they end up chaning their own beleifs or chaning the beleifs of others so that they beelive the same thing. when these groups are still small the set of beleifs that this gorups belive can still be changed. eventaully these groups of peolpe changed become larger and larger to the point where the religion it self doenst change but insted the people who joi it chaneg their mind. so that the group who ebelive the same thing gets bigger and bigger, now what if two groups meet who didnt meet the same thing. over the time it took to form these groups they owuld ahev gotten use to not changing themselves but chnaging others to join them, well when two large groups meet they cant change the other becuase the other has large numbers, so they continue this trend to seek the change of the other becuase they naturally feel that the group they are dedicated to is better, if this didnt feel this way they wouldnt be able to join or they would have changed already and so would not be of consaquence. but some people wouldnt change over and would want ot conitinue the trend of growing. becuase people woudlnt come over from the other group volunterilly or at least not all of them, then the persuasion by force starts. at first this starts with comments, such as can be viewed in this forum over religiose discussion, but eventually becuase both groups woudl attempt to do this, eventually if left together these two gorups would build up tension, untiul pone group cant take it anymore and attacks, the other group feeling that they havent been justly attacked will then attack back. both groups will feel their right so the mess will continue until one of the two sides is too weak to continue the fight.

so maybe it's this kind of thinking that producing wars?

That's a Holy War in plain English.

yes, but i was anazlyzing what lead up to the holy war, becuase if you always view it as just a holy war then your missing at least half the picture and will always be confused as to how humanity could get so bad. the main thrust of my point was the question at the end, the rest was just explination becuase if i just posted the question at the end everyone wouldn't give any credit to it becuase they owuld think it's complete nonesense, while now it at least has a fighting chyance of being understood.

Whoever made this should lock it now! Devilesk will just do what he has been doing earlier in the post! Then everyone will do it and so on and so forth...

i disagree with u kellimus, how ever stupid it was there was some point to what devilski did. also me and shapeshifter at least are taking the discussion seriously.

[center]I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I don't care.
My idea for fixing the relegious fights: destroy everything the clashing relegions hold as holy. Sure they'll be Über pissed at first, but then they'll realise that they've got nothing left to fight over.[/center]

When I was a teenager, I had a hard on for trying to prove Christians wrong and just generally making it as uncomfortable as possible to talk about religion around me. What can I say? I, like most wannabe nonconformists, was just a blam head.

When I got a little older and life actually started getting harder than worrying about school and crying over dead relatives or divorced parents, I have now chosen to believe in a supreme being because it makes me feel better to do so.

I'm not alone, there are a large number of adults who find it easier to hope than to stubbornly persist in being weird and anti-religious. Personally, I'm not all that religious, but I feel a hell of a lot better than I did as a teenager now that I've chosen to believe in something.

You don't make truth, you find it. Making it means you're just lieing to yourself. And if you want to lie, then by all means lie. Just don't make your stupid ass personal belief external.

You can't mix things like this together. A lot of them say things against each other. Like, if you're into Zoroastrianism you would be against worshipping idols, however a lot of other religions DO worship idols. So you would have to have a long ass debate about which is right. To worship idols or to not worship idols. When or better yet, IF, you're done with that argument you still got a LOT more to go. So the fastest way, that I currently know of, is to just question god's existence. If you believe there is a god, you got more arguing to do cause you would have to pick the right belief in god now. If you don't believe there's a god, da bam you're done.

Trust me, people will not just have their own religion. They'll, like proven countless time through out history, will come together and make some type of common belief.

But to be honest, I wouldn't mind making a religion. As the creator of scientology once said:
"Religion is where the money is at."

Are you calling my religion stupid? I take that as an insult.

I cannot comment on your religion but i can comment on the mental processes that went into it, i dont beleive you spent a resounable amount of time deciding what you truely beleive in life. if you've spent many hours in contemplation and finally relized that this spaghetti monster is what you beleive in then i wont begrudge you that, but if you spent 3 seconds figuring out what the most stupid possible religion you could come up with and then posted your thoughts about it then i can't respect that. so maybe if you described more about this spaghetti monster and it's intracet role in the universe then maybe i could come to accept that as a possiblity as towards what should be considerd a religion.

Stop insulting my religion or I will have to kill you in the name of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

By the way, your spelling and capitalization still sucks.

Devilesk, you do realize that Spaghetti is a food created by Italians...

According to the religion, that is just an illusion created by the holy Spaghetti Monster. Care to prove it wrong?

What he said^

No, you can't. You can't really prove anything wrong, but I'm BELIEVING in Christianity. There. I don't want this to go so far that the hate goes off to other forums. When not in this forum, forget about other's thoughts and religions, or it becomes a mess...

First of all there is no hate. I don't see where you get that wild dillusion. Second, your belief in Christianity is wrong because the Flying Spaghetti Monster created Christianity to fool anyone who is foolish enough.

my religion is based off the soul beleif that i will go to heaven if i over throw the evil spagheti monster and kill all those who worship it....if this were really my religion it would create problems for the whole basis of this theory in the first place.

ps: stop making fun of my spelling, and punctution, im dyslexic and i know it sucks.

You can't kill the flying spaghetti monster you fool.

Use spellcheck.

Yeah but if EVERYONE had there own religion than there would be even more fighting over whos religion is the best

The big mecha in the ocean will rise up and destroy all of you who don't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster!