Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-09-05 at 16:03:32
Whose fault? Noones really.
As far as the city being built below sea level... I believe the city was originally founded by the french a loooooong time ago and didn't know that the location was below sea level and so decided to build themselves a city.
And how does the authority have control over natural disasters? Who did you think our president was? A wizard?
I think it became a category 2 when it hit i think. Well maybe not, but it soon died out after hitting something.
- Wrong. In fact, Bush was VERY upset that aid was coming too slowly.
- Canada didnt offer Bush anything at all.
- Someday the world will be overrun by people like you.
How would you like it if you lost everything due to some natural disaster, lost loved ones, became poor, malnourished, disgruntled and nobody cared?
As far as the city being built below sea level... I believe the city was originally founded by the french a loooooong time ago and didn't know that the location was below sea level and so decided to build themselves a city.
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Remember, it's the authority you guys voted for... Well if you live in America and you actually did anyways.
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And how does the authority have control over natural disasters? Who did you think our president was? A wizard?
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You can't exactly place the blame on one single person or goverment. Katrina was a Category 5 when it hit. It's only the third or fourth Category 5 storm to have ever hit the Continental US. The whole of New Orleans slopes downward after Lake Pontra...I can't spell it correctly, you can't exactly correct New Orleans after everything in was built on top of it.
Holland had flooding long before the 21st Century. Its dikes took years to build. They had to slowly lift the land up while creating the barriers. Sea Level is rising. Venace, Italy gets flooded almost daily. They have to use planks of wood to get around, because when it floods, the sewage leaks out, similar to what's happening right now :\
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Holland had flooding long before the 21st Century. Its dikes took years to build. They had to slowly lift the land up while creating the barriers. Sea Level is rising. Venace, Italy gets flooded almost daily. They have to use planks of wood to get around, because when it floods, the sewage leaks out, similar to what's happening right now :\
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I think it became a category 2 when it hit i think. Well maybe not, but it soon died out after hitting something.
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What's really disturbing is the President reacted too slow in this situation.
Canada offered help, and the President should have accepted instantly. But instead it was a while before the "OK" was given(days).
America's pride and greed will consume them someday.
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Canada offered help, and the President should have accepted instantly. But instead it was a while before the "OK" was given(days).
America's pride and greed will consume them someday.
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- Wrong. In fact, Bush was VERY upset that aid was coming too slowly.
- Canada didnt offer Bush anything at all.
- Someday the world will be overrun by people like you.
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Shut up dk :\
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Anyway I wasn't surprised New Orleans was flooded, and I don't really care.
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How would you like it if you lost everything due to some natural disaster, lost loved ones, became poor, malnourished, disgruntled and nobody cared?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-09-05 at 16:10:38
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As far as the city being built below sea level... I believe the city was originally founded by the french a loooooong time ago and didn't know that the location was below sea level and so decided to build themselves a city.
No. The place they founded on IS above sea level. The part they expanded into is NOT.
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And how does the authority have control over natural disasters? Who did you think our president was? A wizard?
Well.. many extremeists think the hurricane was caused by god to destroy those who didn't believe in the christ. (Seriously, but I know even you wouldn't be that crazy!)
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I think it became a category 2 when it hit i think. Well maybe not, but it soon died out after hitting something.
4, then 5.
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How would you like it if you lost everything due to some natural disaster, lost loved ones, became poor, malnourished, disgruntled and nobody cared?
People there didn't lose everything. They didn't become poor. They aren't malnourished. The only ones who are, are the ones who already lost everything, were poor and already malnourished.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-09-05 at 16:32:37
Eaxtley, no one feels bad for the homeless until they get flooded? What about the many homeless suffering the icy toronto nights? No one cares about them because the icy toronto nights are a regular thing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-09-05 at 18:33:10
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And how does the authority have control over natural disasters? Who did you think our president was? A wizard?
I was replying to Beer's statement that the dikes could have been repaired if they were damaged in the first place. Who cares if anything was "planned", it's nice to "plan" things, but actually doing them is completely different.
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- Wrong. In fact, Bush was VERY upset that aid was coming too slowly.
- Canada didnt offer Bush anything at all.
- Canada didnt offer Bush anything at all.
And according to this:
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Also: Someone's counterpoint argument i found at the site:
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What a self-righteous load of garbage. The extensive media coverage of Katrina's aftermath is largely what has spurned the government into real action, as opposed to the pathetic display that occurred during the first few days. There is loads of footage and reports of journalists who HAVE been helping those that are stranded IN ADDITION to reporting on this extremely pertinent story. And despite what you might think, reporting on this disaster IS IMPORTANT. Without the extensive media coverage, you yourself would be unaware of the devastating impact of this storm that you claim the media is overlooking. Do you genuinely believe that the financial outpouring from the rest of the country would have happened were they not to have seen the images on television? How disappointing that this cartoon, which in the past has shown a keen eye for social maladies, has been reduced to the status of whiny little 
. Don't yell at others to get perspective when you clearly have none yourself.
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You're right, Canada didn't offer Bush anything, they offered the United States of America help.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mr.ex on 2005-09-05 at 22:24:46
hey who's fault is it anyway? no ones. no one would of thought that new orleans would be destroyed, these kinds of things dont just happen, they happen for a reason--the reason? i dont know you tell me 
but there is always a brighter day
but there is always a brighter dayReport, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-09-05 at 22:42:07
That's not true. People have been warning about this (hurricane, below sea level and levies) for years. They only waited for the inevitable, and thus, it has arrived.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mr.ex on 2005-09-05 at 22:48:36
o 
lol ok, they knew it was coming but they didnt expect it to be so strong
lol ok, they knew it was coming but they didnt expect it to be so strongReport, edit, etc...Posted by @:@ on 2005-09-06 at 01:11:09
The fault obviously rests on President Bush and lag.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-09-06 at 01:36:54
QUOTE(MiLlEnNiUmArMy @ Sep 5 2005, 01:03 PM)
Whose fault? Noones really.
So not true.
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As far as the city being built below sea level... I believe the city was originally founded by the french a loooooong time ago and didn't know that the location was below sea level and so decided to build themselves a city.
As cheeze said, it's the expansion
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And how does the authority have control over natural disasters? Who did you think our president was? A wizard?
Yes, the hurricane came out of a clear sky. All of a sudden there was this huge amount of water and New Orleans was flooded. NOT.
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I think it became a category 2 when it hit i think. Well maybe not, but it soon died out after hitting something.
It was a Category 5 right up until it made landfall, at which point it was a Category 4.
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- Wrong. In fact, Bush was VERY upset that aid was coming too slowly.
Pfft all politics. He never admitted anything, instead mincing his words to avoid admitting much incompetence.
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Have you ever noticed how much the people affected by Katrina blame Bush? The mayor of New Orleans? The President of Jefferson Parish (county)? Thousands of displaced citizens?
This article says it all: http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/nati...-14343596c.html
What retards the idiots of America have elected.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mr.ex on 2005-09-06 at 09:07:14
well said well um that may be correct but um u forgot 1 tingthe governor wasnt really "blaming" anyone he was just telling someone to send help immediately
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-09-06 at 16:45:51
I find it ridiculous how people ALWAYS blame our presidents when natural disasters occur. Presidents have no control over hurricanes. If you think they do, you're retarded. The best they can do is give out an order to send aid immediately and that's exactly what Bush did. If you deny it, you're also retarded. The problem is that the ones giving out the aid are too slow. It's their fault that aid came too slowly, not the president's.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-09-06 at 19:50:10
ROFL ma. You are so insanely ignorant. President Bush and the federal government began to take action on Katrina THREE DAYS after it hit. And, remeber, Katrina was anything but a suprise. We knew it was coming for at least a week. In fact, the President of Jefferson Parish requested assistance TWO DAYS BEFORE Katrina hit, and the request was ignored. Unlike 9/11, we could see Katrina coming. We could have had National Guard troops ready to fly out the second winds died down. We could have pre-arranged a relief effort. But no.
It also helps the Bush cut funding for the Corps of Engineers assigned to the New Orleans levvee by 43% in order to finance the godforsaken war on Iraq.
It also helps the Bush cut funding for the Corps of Engineers assigned to the New Orleans levvee by 43% in order to finance the godforsaken war on Iraq.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-09-06 at 20:52:46
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ROFL ma. You are so insanely ignorant. President Bush and the federal government began to take action on Katrina THREE DAYS after it hit. And, remeber, Katrina was anything but a suprise. We knew it was coming for at least a week. In fact, the President of Jefferson Parish requested assistance TWO DAYS BEFORE Katrina hit, and the request was ignored. Unlike 9/11, we could see Katrina coming. We could have had National Guard troops ready to fly out the second winds died down. We could have pre-arranged a relief effort. But no.
It also helps the Bush cut funding for the Corps of Engineers assigned to the New Orleans levvee by 43% in order to finance the godforsaken war on Iraq.
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quoted for truthfulness.Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-09-06 at 21:45:30
Well all of what I heard was from CNN. Maybe I shouldn't trust the news anymore. It's worthless if it tells me nothing but lies.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-09-06 at 22:11:30
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Well all of what I heard was from CNN. Maybe I shouldn't trust the news anymore. It's worthless if it tells me nothing but lies.
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Never, I repeat NEVER trust any reliable news source.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-09-06 at 22:23:48
Reading editorials is fun, some people just have a way with words.
Meh, I watch the local (non-syndicated) news network, and read 2 diff. papers to get accurate news. And the Weather Channel in this instance
Meh, I watch the local (non-syndicated) news network, and read 2 diff. papers to get accurate news. And the Weather Channel in this instance
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mr.ex on 2005-09-06 at 22:36:05
does that mean i have a way with words the weather channel is full s@$T! (i meant that the weather chan is the "shiznit" )
but nowadays neworleans is getting a lil better! im praying for them also
the weather channel is full s@$T! (i meant that the weather chan is the "shiznit" )but nowadays neworleans is getting a lil better! im praying for them also
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-09-06 at 23:17:13
Our whole nation is praying for them and indeed it's getting better.
Today in our english class we just got a new Orleans Refugee in our class. He was a mexican dude and he looked very depressed. The only thing he carried was one of those Dunkin Donuts boxes that carry the small round donuts (munchkins?), not the normal ones.
Today in our english class we just got a new Orleans Refugee in our class. He was a mexican dude and he looked very depressed. The only thing he carried was one of those Dunkin Donuts boxes that carry the small round donuts (munchkins?), not the normal ones.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-09-06 at 23:20:49
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Well all of what I heard was from CNN. Maybe I shouldn't trust the news anymore. It's worthless if it tells me nothing but lies.
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Rule of thumb: Place logic before "facts". It'll help clear up confusions later.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-09-06 at 23:26:03
Good rule of thumb
Anyways, natural disasters aren't anyone's fault. The resulting tragedies may be however. If they weren't properly prepared, then it could be considered their fault. Wether or not it was their fault, I think we can agree on one thing: Sucks to be them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-09-07 at 00:36:03
My new avi (and title, since you can't read half the squished cartoon) says it all.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-09-07 at 10:55:01
Socity is so pathedic, whenever a tradagy happens their first responce is to blame someone why does it have to be someones fault?
Then i get to read a horrable debate speach blaming the US goverment, i'm glad you guys don't run the country.
Look at me APERAPE, I can't spell isn't it funny?
Then i get to read a horrable debate speach blaming the US goverment, i'm glad you guys don't run the country.
Look at me APERAPE, I can't spell isn't it funny?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-07 at 13:02:13
It's not the governments fault, it's the damn wonderful friendes who ignored what landscapers said.
Back before it was built, they had the place landscaped, and the god forsaken landscapers said, "Don't build here, it's a flood plain."
But nooooooooo! The damn arogent wonderful friends didn't take heed to the landscapers.
So it's their own damn fault that they built on a :censored:ing FLOOD PLAIN!
And yes. It is "devistating" (if that's even the word to use) But it's their own :censored:ing fault for being idiots. Not the governments!
Back before it was built, they had the place landscaped, and the god forsaken landscapers said, "Don't build here, it's a flood plain."
But nooooooooo! The damn arogent wonderful friends didn't take heed to the landscapers.
So it's their own damn fault that they built on a :censored:ing FLOOD PLAIN!
And yes. It is "devistating" (if that's even the word to use) But it's their own :censored:ing fault for being idiots. Not the governments!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-09-07 at 17:52:26
... No.
The city was originally built above sea level; that's why all the old parts of the town are still dry. However, since it was one of the main trading posts (until the Hurricane), the most "logical" thing to do was expand. Unfortunatly, they did it the wrong way.
The city was originally built above sea level; that's why all the old parts of the town are still dry. However, since it was one of the main trading posts (until the Hurricane), the most "logical" thing to do was expand. Unfortunatly, they did it the wrong way.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-09-07 at 19:50:43
It also helps that they drained all those wetlands under Bush and Reagan. The wetland areas helped to damp the effects of hurricanes hitting the area.