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With space stations, we basically have to bring in our own resources from earth (oxygen, food, etc) so really the only benefit of space stations are more space, not necessarily resources

yes, but if we made the space station big enough, we could grow our own food, make our own oxegen. so, why not the same mars as we terraform it?

We could do that, but by the time we have the technology, money, and resources to actually do that, it would be too late

Just blows this damn planet.
Or
Stop complaining about it, just live your life like you want.

They tried to make a biome and stay in it for a few years. all the humans got sick after a year staying in there so i dont think we can live in biomes on mars

I say that americans build a gaint spaceship and have us rig earth with nuclear explosives, All americans escape to mars secretly and we blow earth up, now no more problems with other countries =)

No offence..... but that was pritty.... welll lets say off the charts and not in a good way.... I hope that was a joke stars....

Also the thing about growing food in space is that if one plant... one seed... has, or devlopes a disease.... evryone dies.... kinda harsh dont you think? Why is this? One fungus can wipe out a whole crop, and damage oxegen production since we are relying on plants.... And its just silly to think that you wont have a disease.... Its like the lotery... someone is gonna get it eventualy....

People as individuals are quite intelligent, cave men proved that. Although there ways were savage and unsanitary they were able to understand and grasp the concept of only using things around them to make and use things neccessary to survive.

People as a collective are as dumb as a box a bricks. Everyone has different veiws and the more people involved, the more arguing and bickering there is. A great deal of psychosomatics play into this as well. To many people think their way is best. To many people feel the need to be 'top dog'. The best example for this is this thread and this entire planet.

Well, then again if you look at the big picture, were .00000000000000001% of the universe and what we do well amount to nothing in the end because the sun is going to collapse and when that happens all of the plants will die and the planet will be sucked in ect.

Besides that, I think all this science fiction of these big ass space ships in space is really stupid. Even at the speed of light it would take thousands of years to get to a different galaxy. Unlike the movies. And lets just say we could go the speed of light, I'd imagine if you hit a pebble size meteorite, it'd go all the way through the ship if you were going the speed of light considering the fact that a 2 inch meteorite at the speed our current space ships fly can cause a 5 inch hole in a side.

And were sitting here on earth wondering who were going to shoot because people can't agree on anything. Even simple matters.

It has all of those.




Making Mars heaven for people.



I doubt you've heard of everything related to the exploration of Mars.



I'm not talking about a single biome, I mean on a very wide scale. Planetwide.

The only problem is if microbial life is on Mars, think the war of the worlds but backwards.

I have another idea

*Grabs a beer*

Surree!!!!! Let Earth die!!! Take her down!!!! It will put the Rain Forest out of it's misery!

It's a much harder process then just sending stuff to Mars and expecting it to do something.

even if you manage to create an artificial atmosphere, the temperature there would be disastrous

guys we will one day live on other planets... this is can gaurentee. Mainly because small time corporations have realized we are doomed on this planet and are beilding ships to get us out there. The only way we can achieve this is by not having nations work together but small groups of people. Such as if all the people of SEN started working on a small ship. Buying the materials, and putting them together. Getting funded by a small time corporation. Or even call up virgin mobile lol. Its not the nations that need to build it, its us.


P.S. when they do eventually get to other planet... even ones like earth would kill millions. Just like the movie evolution... they all die because of their evniorment but that one finally adapts...

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I really hope you're not that stupid.

Uh....huh? Dude, are you even using common sense?



-_- Don't assume something is impossible just because of simple doubts like yours. We've already begun, first off. Second, We DO have the technology for it, and even though we don't have the recources for it, were doing it anyway, and quite successfully it seems. If NASA can do it with their limited resources, think of what the military could do...and hellz yeah, the military WILL want to go up into space, we can count on that.

And actually, no, Humanity doesn't look bad because our standards are so high. In fact, most people really don't have very high standards. But they fail to live up to them anyway.



Punk Rock, Hard Rock, or Metal?

And yeah, I'm with him. We've got the techno-goodness for it.

And also, don't think its just the technology hidden from the public. The crap we have up for display could also get the job done.



.... What's "air?" And yes, it does have an atmosphere, currently only best suited for plantlife(though a bit of water would be handy). As for weather...heh..changing the atmosphere would change the weather too... Besides, who says we'd restrict ourselves to the given conditions on Mars? Hmf. Climate control, baby. It's the only way to live.



Dude, what the hell? You give off the impression of an extremely lazy person. Don't you worry, we'll be causing all sorts of hell on mars soon. We've done much in the past 7k to 8k years, and we get better at it as we go too... Might I also add that it doesn't take an entire population of people to make a huge change.



While you do have a good point, you should remember that farmers never plant the same thing in the same place, and they don't plant everything together. They divide the plants off and give them all seperate spots. Not only that, but even if all the plants were to have caught the disease, the station would probably have auxilary seeds, stored food, and a connection to Earth, meaning they could ask for another batch of seeds if need be. But I don't think we'll be doing that anyway. Space Stations are like a temporary solution. They should be used for the different environment for scientific purposes, not as another place for people to live.



... Dude, you're hilarious... But no, seriously, that's gotta be one of the worst reasons ever. First off, in the long run, we've got a ricidulously huge amount of time to take care of the "lets-get-away-from-our-solar-system" problem so I'm sure time really isn't the issue with that one. Also, I'd like to add that there is no point/meaning to existance, PERIOD. It's like getting a present for no aparent reason.It doesn't make much sense, but saying no would be the stupid thing to do, now wouldn't it? So if anything, I'd say the fact that we exist makes us VERY important. Who gives a crap if we're only human? That's the blam's reason to stop. Let me also remind you that the most revered people on this earth have always been the ones that don't care or don't think about how meaningless life is, because that doesn't mean blam either.

Oh, and you're right about the spaceships being stupid...Yup. They're as pointless and wonderful friend as Airplanes, oil rigs, transports ships, oh, and lets not forget, trains. =D Seriously dude, how the do you think we're going to survive in space without some form of mass transit? It happens with every culture. Oh, as for the speed of light thing, we're not looking that far ahead right now... when we have more insight on the situation, we will. But not just yet. And also, the ship wouldn't be going at the speed of light, because if that were so, it would explode in a mass of energy if it DID hit something. No, chances are it will either be going less than the speed of light, or (traveling through/surounded by) some sort of vortex that moves at the speed of light. Then again, we really shouldn't be looking that far ahead right now. Besides, even at less than light speeds, the meteorite(2 inches in diamter) wouldn't do blam. It would be hit by the force and sent flying off to one side with hardly a dent. Besides, it IS possible to navigate around obstacles, and it's also possible to create an autopilot.



Um... I'm sorry, but first off, your small time corporations are rather irrelevant. And you're saying suddenly that they're building space ships to get us out of here? WHERE? And the people of SEN are rather...unagreeable. We don't all get along. Though if some of us made a combined effort, we would be able to make a functional rocket..that MIGHT make it into space...but there's no point to that. It's not our job to do that, we aren't the ones that should do it because it seems few people on SEN actually know how to do that sort of thing, or even have any experience with that. Not only that, but really, most of us are still in school, others in college I'm guessing. We have to actually start a life before we can begin a project like that...

But you're sorta right about one thing though. The officials shouldn't be the only people trying to get up into space and make a difference. Third party groups should definitely be at work too.

Might I also add that the human race alltogether has been rather lucky in its short time of existance. I don't see why that luck should wear off just yet...

lets face it, humans are doomed. there is one way to survive and that is to stop.

let me explain my theory. we are killing our planet with all this stuff we use every day. there is a rapidly growing number of humans on the earth and we will soon run out of room on earth. i suggest we limit our selves to one baby for any person to have so we can cut down on resources used and spent to support another human being.

and to pouplate mars would be the smartest move earthlings will proly ever make.
scientists only say that there will be around 400 more years and our planet will be turned to toxicity. but why should we care, we wont be alive then...

and this is kinda related to what i said eariler. we need to stop useing soo many luxuries. we have too many obeice humans to be able to be supported for more then 1000 more years. i hate when people are depended on modern technology. (except those who have to be supported off it for their life)

ask ur self, if you had a basic knife and you were with a group of 5 people, would you all be able to survive without modern luxeries?? OUR ANSESTORS DID! but no, we dont have to cause we are too spoiled as people. instead america could actulley send luxeries we have here and make them suitable for the poor suffering people in africa.

see how bad we made it for our selves? the human race is doomed.

Lol guys, your forgetting nature is a balance. Without chaos there is no harmony.
And a lot of you have no idea what being human is, humans need progress to survive, if we didn't have progress we would slowly die off (yes the cavemen did have progress).

And as to the mars thing we do have the technology to send people there but it would cost way to much and the success rate would be fairly low.

Fallen, I admit to being wrong on wether we do or do not have the technology yet. I'm with you on that. But I didn't mean military, I meant civilian. Of course the military is going to be up there.

And why should we go to mars right now? What's with this whole we're all gonna die thing? Is this 1999 all over again? Will we be unable to live on earth in the next 100 years?

At the rate the polution is going, we got more than enough time.

Oh F***! You're right lol, I forgot that existance works via Order and Chaos -_-' My bad, sorreh. =P But you have also forgotten one thing. Order and Chaos are products of Fate. But Humans have free will. And though we can't control Order and Chaos entirely, our free will allows us to manipulate it. The only thing in question now is which way we go.



1: Yup =)

2: =\ The human race isn't the manifestation of a highschool student. We shouldn't cram. That's idiocy. Progress should be made as soon as possible, it never hurts to work ahead.

Sadly, I still AM a highschool student... T_T But hey, we get over that cramming thing eventually, right?...right?...RIGHT?!?!

hmm this makes me think, what if this process has already started? and it's been hidden for many years. whitch could co-enside with the theory of area 51 and that we are running an underground space mission.

i wonder if it's illegal to make ur own space exploration...