Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-10-25 at 18:20:42
I'm so evil I have a Temple of Nox membership.
Seriously, most people in my school think I'm 'evil'. I disagree. I think people are defining evil by the opposotie of the norms, the unknowns and the oddities become evil.
Seriously, most people in my school think I'm 'evil'. I disagree. I think people are defining evil by the opposotie of the norms, the unknowns and the oddities become evil.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-10-25 at 18:56:43
Evil? You wan't evil? Read up on "Hitler".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-10-25 at 19:33:49
QUOTE(123123 @ Oct 25 2005, 05:10 PM)
This is Absolute.
I never did that. Don't lie please.
I know that we all know the definition (and you are just trying to waste my time) because no one asked what "evil" meant until I mentioned it.
You didn't want to have anyone define it until you decided to waste the time of the guy with whom you were arguing. As we all know, one of the rules of a troll is to make everyone else define/prove everything they say.
edit: If this is your account, login and tell me. I typed in random stuff in the member login screen and logged in by accident, but since my other account was banned, I decided to use it for this post.
Suspended due to multiple accounts. Every known account that is related has been suspended. They will be deleted once I get one of the administrator to check it out.
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I never did that. Don't lie please.
I know that we all know the definition (and you are just trying to waste my time) because no one asked what "evil" meant until I mentioned it.
You didn't want to have anyone define it until you decided to waste the time of the guy with whom you were arguing. As we all know, one of the rules of a troll is to make everyone else define/prove everything they say.
edit: If this is your account, login and tell me. I typed in random stuff in the member login screen and logged in by accident, but since my other account was banned, I decided to use it for this post.
Suspended due to multiple accounts. Every known account that is related has been suspended. They will be deleted once I get one of the administrator to check it out.
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I never did that. Don't lie please.
MY BAD, replace I with CheeZe. Anyway same thing.
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I know that we all know the definition (and you are just trying to waste my time) because no one asked what "evil" meant until I mentioned it.
Prove it. Oh and by the way, it was my first post in this topic. It had nothing to do with you saying it. Evil still needs to be defined.
I'm sure before I said "define evil" I had 100 other posts in this topic where I didn't say define evil.
Lol me a troll? Look at what you're doing.
*cough* you still haven't answered CheeZe and defined evil, stop dodging *cough*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-25 at 23:07:04
Traits of a forum troll:
If you notice, you did exactly all of those in your last post.
Please adress the rest of my post and then I'll adress yours, and don't ban be again in order recieve the last word.
What makes it more incredible is that you ask me questions anyways!
- Will pick an argument over anything.
- Must have the last word.
- Will ignore key parts of others' posts.
- Tries to force others to prove and/or define everything they say.
If you notice, you did exactly all of those in your last post.
Please adress the rest of my post and then I'll adress yours, and don't ban be again in order recieve the last word.
What makes it more incredible is that you ask me questions anyways!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-10-25 at 23:32:55
1. I like how you're doing it right now.
2. I like how you registered a new account just to have the last word
3. I like how if you didn't ignore the key parts of the posts you would have nothing to argue about because you're wrong.
4. That's a stupid trait since his reason for having you define/prove just one thing and that is EVIL is perfectly justified.
I wonder how long before you're ipbanned, troll.
2. I like how you registered a new account just to have the last word
3. I like how if you didn't ignore the key parts of the posts you would have nothing to argue about because you're wrong.
4. That's a stupid trait since his reason for having you define/prove just one thing and that is EVIL is perfectly justified.
I wonder how long before you're ipbanned, troll.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-10-26 at 01:00:16
Would both of you just shut up?
devilesk, you aren't getting anywhere with this. You're both too stubborn, this conversation isn't getting anywhere. You're truly embracing your human stupidity by continueing the damn thing. Just ignore it and continue with the discussion. Your d**k isn't going shrink if that's what you're worried about.
Absolute, do us a favor. Shut up and get to the point. I don't care what you have to say. I doubt anyone else does. Your opinion won't make a difference unless you get to the point of your flames. Got a problem with the mods? Got a problem with GodDidIt? No one cares. Say something that actually helps move the discussion forward, or JUST. SHUT. UP.
Now, since NO ONE has bothered to define evil, I'll give you my personal opinon on the matter. This isn't THE definition of evil. This is MY definition. I believe an evil act is one that involves willingly acting in a way that will cause damage/dysfunction to something or someone, with the intent of hurting the said thing for the purpose of causing them pain or hurt, rather than doing it to benefit one's self in any way(revenge, personal sadistic pleasure, etc).
Now, if anyone has anything worthwhile to say, say it and nothing else.
devilesk, you aren't getting anywhere with this. You're both too stubborn, this conversation isn't getting anywhere. You're truly embracing your human stupidity by continueing the damn thing. Just ignore it and continue with the discussion. Your d**k isn't going shrink if that's what you're worried about.
Absolute, do us a favor. Shut up and get to the point. I don't care what you have to say. I doubt anyone else does. Your opinion won't make a difference unless you get to the point of your flames. Got a problem with the mods? Got a problem with GodDidIt? No one cares. Say something that actually helps move the discussion forward, or JUST. SHUT. UP.
Now, since NO ONE has bothered to define evil, I'll give you my personal opinon on the matter. This isn't THE definition of evil. This is MY definition. I believe an evil act is one that involves willingly acting in a way that will cause damage/dysfunction to something or someone, with the intent of hurting the said thing for the purpose of causing them pain or hurt, rather than doing it to benefit one's self in any way(revenge, personal sadistic pleasure, etc).
Now, if anyone has anything worthwhile to say, say it and nothing else.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-26 at 01:09:44
What he said.
Oh.
Sociopaths ^_^
Oh.
Sociopaths ^_^
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-10-26 at 17:11:00
QUOTE(FallenDreamer @ Oct 26 2005, 01:00 AM)
Would both of you just shut up?
devilesk, you aren't getting anywhere with this. You're both too stubborn, this conversation isn't getting anywhere. You're truly embracing your human stupidity by continueing the damn thing. Just ignore it and continue with the discussion. Your d**k isn't going shrink if that's what you're worried about.
Absolute, do us a favor. Shut up and get to the point. I don't care what you have to say. I doubt anyone else does. Your opinion won't make a difference unless you get to the point of your flames. Got a problem with the mods? Got a problem with GodDidIt? No one cares. Say something that actually helps move the discussion forward, or JUST. SHUT. UP.
Now, since NO ONE has bothered to define evil, I'll give you my personal opinon on the matter. This isn't THE definition of evil. This is MY definition. I believe an evil act is one that involves willingly acting in a way that will cause damage/dysfunction to something or someone, with the intent of hurting the said thing for the purpose of causing them pain or hurt, rather than doing it to benefit one's self in any way(revenge, personal sadistic pleasure, etc).
Now, if anyone has anything worthwhile to say, say it and nothing else.
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devilesk, you aren't getting anywhere with this. You're both too stubborn, this conversation isn't getting anywhere. You're truly embracing your human stupidity by continueing the damn thing. Just ignore it and continue with the discussion. Your d**k isn't going shrink if that's what you're worried about.
Absolute, do us a favor. Shut up and get to the point. I don't care what you have to say. I doubt anyone else does. Your opinion won't make a difference unless you get to the point of your flames. Got a problem with the mods? Got a problem with GodDidIt? No one cares. Say something that actually helps move the discussion forward, or JUST. SHUT. UP.
Now, since NO ONE has bothered to define evil, I'll give you my personal opinon on the matter. This isn't THE definition of evil. This is MY definition. I believe an evil act is one that involves willingly acting in a way that will cause damage/dysfunction to something or someone, with the intent of hurting the said thing for the purpose of causing them pain or hurt, rather than doing it to benefit one's self in any way(revenge, personal sadistic pleasure, etc).
Now, if anyone has anything worthwhile to say, say it and nothing else.
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Actually, Absolute is talking to CheeZe, but I'm basically saying the same thing as him too.
BTW, I'm not the one who started calling people, especially moderators, trolls. And I'm not the one who was just suspended, and I'm not the one who logs onto other peoples accounts AND creates multiple accounts.
And anyone who would actually read what CheeZe and I have said, and then look at how Absolute is responding to it you will understand what is going on.
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Now, since NO ONE has bothered to define evil, I'll give you my personal opinon on the matter. This isn't THE definition of evil. This is MY definition. I believe an evil act is one that involves willingly acting in a way that will cause damage/dysfunction to something or someone, with the intent of hurting the said thing for the purpose of causing them pain or hurt, rather than doing it to benefit one's self in any way(revenge, personal sadistic pleasure, etc).
Exactly, that is what CheeZe and I have been asking Absolute to do. However he claims CheeZe said he "couldn't" and then says that he isn't going to define it since "everyone knows what the definition is".
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devilesk, you aren't getting anywhere with this. You're both too stubborn, this conversation isn't getting anywhere. You're truly embracing your human stupidity by continueing the damn thing. Just ignore it and continue with the discussion. Your d**k isn't going shrink if that's what you're worried about.
I am getting somewhere with this
And this conversation is going somewhere. I am enjoying this discussion with Absolute. I don't need to ignore anything. And I'm not really continuing anything really. Absolute has been jumping around changing the subject recently:QUOTE
*cough* you still haven't answered CheeZe and defined evil, stop dodging *cough*
Oh, and my discussion with Absolute IS the discussion that of the topic
If I was going to discuss evil I had to have had a definition of evil, which Absolute still hasn't proven he has, even though he claims he has one.Without one you get posts like the one I made earlier
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopi...ndpost&p=340658
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-26 at 18:14:42
We all know the definition, and he didn't care to ask until I spoke. There was no contraversy using that word until GodDidIt decided to be a troll.
I didn't think there was even any real question as to the definition.
I didn't think there was even any real question as to the definition.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-10-26 at 18:15:51
QUOTE(leelee @ Oct 26 2005, 06:14 PM)
We all know the definition, and no one cared to ask until I spoke (because he is a troll).
I didn't think there was even any real question as to the definition.
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I didn't think there was even any real question as to the definition.
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Yea, I'm a troll, that makes much more sense than me first seeing the topic and posting in it for the first time.
It's still funny how you think everyone has the same definition of evil.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2005-10-26 at 18:45:52
e·vil ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vl)
adj. e·vil·er, e·vil·est
Morally bad or wrong; wicked: an evil tyrant.
Causing ruin, injury, or pain; harmful: the evil effects of a poor diet.
Characterized by or indicating future misfortune; ominous: evil omens.
Bad or blameworthy by report; infamous: an evil reputation.
Characterized by anger or spite; malicious: an evil temper.
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You people are not evil by book standards, merely sadists who wish to be a tyrant or something there of.
adj. e·vil·er, e·vil·est
Morally bad or wrong; wicked: an evil tyrant.
Causing ruin, injury, or pain; harmful: the evil effects of a poor diet.
Characterized by or indicating future misfortune; ominous: evil omens.
Bad or blameworthy by report; infamous: an evil reputation.
Characterized by anger or spite; malicious: an evil temper.
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You people are not evil by book standards, merely sadists who wish to be a tyrant or something there of.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-10-26 at 19:20:22
QUOTE(Mr.Camo @ Oct 26 2005, 06:45 PM)
e·vil ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vl)
adj. e·vil·er, e·vil·est
Morally bad or wrong; wicked: an evil tyrant.
Causing ruin, injury, or pain; harmful: the evil effects of a poor diet.
Characterized by or indicating future misfortune; ominous: evil omens.
Bad or blameworthy by report; infamous: an evil reputation.
Characterized by anger or spite; malicious: an evil temper.
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You people are not evil by book standards, merely sadists who wish to be a tyrant or something there of.
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adj. e·vil·er, e·vil·est
Morally bad or wrong; wicked: an evil tyrant.
Causing ruin, injury, or pain; harmful: the evil effects of a poor diet.
Characterized by or indicating future misfortune; ominous: evil omens.
Bad or blameworthy by report; infamous: an evil reputation.
Characterized by anger or spite; malicious: an evil temper.
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You people are not evil by book standards, merely sadists who wish to be a tyrant or something there of.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2005-10-26 at 19:22:20
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They technically aren't morally bad jsut because they think about it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-10-26 at 19:28:12
That's not what I was pointing out.
Just tell me what makes something or someone "bad".
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They technically aren't morally bad jsut because they think about it.
Just tell me what makes something or someone "bad".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2005-10-26 at 19:28:45
I'm not evil, but sometimes if someone pisses me off I think about poisoning them or kicking their a$$. And most of the time, like most people, I wish about half the human race to die, for various reasons (including not signling, be stupid, looking or being utterly replusive, being mean to someone, and many others...).
Do not judge me because I judge you. Judge me because you want to.
Do not judge me because I judge you. Judge me because you want to.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-10-26 at 19:31:09
There is no universal line between "evil" and "not evil".
You get to choose it, or at least determine it.
You get to choose it, or at least determine it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2005-10-26 at 19:59:22
Evil is defined by the society and community in which it occurs in. Evil is diffrerent for different people:
"Dont take my picture, you'll steal my soul!"
"Rock and roll is promoted by the Devil! ACDC is evil!"
"That baby murderer is sick! He is pure evil! He has no emotions!"
"Dont take my picture, you'll steal my soul!"
"Rock and roll is promoted by the Devil! ACDC is evil!"
"That baby murderer is sick! He is pure evil! He has no emotions!"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-26 at 20:05:56
Why do you insist on forcing people to define everything? It's your turn.
Define "define".
Prove why others should prove things.
Define "define".
Prove why others should prove things.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2005-10-26 at 20:09:07
To define somehting has nothing to do with beliefs. Everyone agrees that grass is a green plant that grows everywhere where there is sun and enough moisture to allow it to preform photosynthesis and what not.
Define: To give meaning of a word
transitive and intransitive verb to give the precise meaning of a word or expression
Define: To give meaning of a word
transitive and intransitive verb to give the precise meaning of a word or expression
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-10-26 at 20:09:22
Defining "define" is circular reasoning. (You could deny that's what define means which would throw everything else out even though they're mutually exclusive)
The reason I (I don't know about other people) ask for a definition is to prove a point. The point? That it is impossible to define evil without a point of view.
Go ahead, look at the definition Camo posted, you'll notice that it requires point of view to make sense.
To help you get started:
Define bad and wrong. Define wicked. (Notice more cirular reasoning).
Evil tyrant; the tyrant would not have believed himself to be evil. Otherwise, he wouldn't be "evil".
My point is, good and evil are biased views. I'm not saying that we shouldn't use them, I'm saying you can't justify something because you think it's bad. I may have different reasons to why it would be helpful.
The reason I (I don't know about other people) ask for a definition is to prove a point. The point? That it is impossible to define evil without a point of view.
Go ahead, look at the definition Camo posted, you'll notice that it requires point of view to make sense.
To help you get started:
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Morally bad or wrong; wicked: an evil tyrant.
Define bad and wrong. Define wicked. (Notice more cirular reasoning).
Evil tyrant; the tyrant would not have believed himself to be evil. Otherwise, he wouldn't be "evil".
My point is, good and evil are biased views. I'm not saying that we shouldn't use them, I'm saying you can't justify something because you think it's bad. I may have different reasons to why it would be helpful.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-26 at 20:42:43
You dodged my two questions, but I can't say I blame you.
It's very hard to define "define", and it's impossible to prove why you should prove things.
That was my point, though: not all things need to be proven/defined for them to be used. However, since you guys are going crazy over it, I'll go ahead and give the definition: doing intentional harm to another person or his/her property.
It's very hard to define "define", and it's impossible to prove why you should prove things.
That was my point, though: not all things need to be proven/defined for them to be used. However, since you guys are going crazy over it, I'll go ahead and give the definition: doing intentional harm to another person or his/her property.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-26 at 22:09:28
From what I can see, he did not dodge your question.
He answers it:
He explains what that is, after he says the above statement.
Answered:
He proves it with that, by showing that you cannot prove something is evil because evil is a perception of the human mind.
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Define "define".
He answers it:
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Defining "define" is circular reasoning
He explains what that is, after he says the above statement.
QUOTE(leelee)
Prove why others should prove things.
Answered:
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Evil tyrant; the tyrant would not have believed himself to be evil. Otherwise, he wouldn't be "evil".
He proves it with that, by showing that you cannot prove something is evil because evil is a perception of the human mind.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-10-26 at 23:25:26
Exactly, and he's been saying that throughout the thread. Still hasn't gone through Absolute's head though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-27 at 13:35:31
Explain how you disagree with my previous post.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-10-27 at 14:18:47
This topic is going nowhere.
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