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I think he just wrote books cuz he knew there was a chance that he could get out of death penalty by fooling foolish america.
He has no way of getting out of the death penalty, he just wants others to think he is good, which is bull.
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ok... say i create a gang to do good, but they end up doing really bad things. That justify my death?
Dude, what are you talking about? A crip leader killing four people has nothing to do with what you just said.
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I don't agree that his execution was necessary, but I felt though it saved time and the inevitable happened quicker.
It's not about what happens while he is alive, it's what happens after he isn't. Lessening the jail time would only make people think that killing others is less of a big deal.
QUOTE(Voyager7456(MM) @ Dec 14 2005, 06:57 AM)
So for causing pain and suffering, we should cause him pain and suffering? This makes us better than him... how?
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The point is to make him an example to others, thus discouraging other people from killing. Tis for the greater good, however machiavellian it may sound.
There have been executions for crimes since the dawn of man. It is a very effective way to discourage criminal behavior. Of course, it's been abused by people in power to settle grudges, but nothing's perfect. I don't think the death penalty packs as much of a punch as it used to (in scaring people), because of all the humanitarian efforts put into it (lethal injection VS. the guillotine), the endless public debating, etc.
people in prison do not freeload. they actually do work. you know making liscense plates crushing rocks etc. and they get payed really low like 75 cents a day. so they are actually working off what they do. there is the part about guard wages prison maintanence and etc. but its not like its sucking up all of our taxes. they are going to other things more useless like war and giving countries money to kill us.
dont complain how millions of dollars go to prisons when there are other things sucking up 100x more money.
it disgusts me how people want to see another persons execution. like when the guy that did the oaklahoma city bombing got executed the families of the dead went to see it. i mean i understand how they hate him but actually watching him die is just wrong...
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like when the guy that did the oaklahoma city bombing got executed the families of the dead went to see it. i mean i understand how they hate him but actually watching him die is just wrong...
Well he watched others die, I don't see you complaining about that. These convicts aren't P.O.W.s, they're murderers. Bloody murderers.
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Bloody murderers.
Let's make 'em more bloody on their way out of this world.
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Well he watched others die, I don't see you complaining about that. These convicts aren't P.O.W.s, they're murderers. Bloody murderers.
it was wrong of him to kill those people but...
this has nothing to do with what wrongs they have commited it is about what to do with them about thier punishment. 2 wrongs do not make it a right.
are suggesting we stoop to thier level?
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this has nothing to do with what wrongs they have commited it is about what to do with them about thier punishment. 2 wrongs do not make it a right.
are suggesting we stoop to thier level?
You're right, violence isn't a good punishment, we should have shrinks talk to them and try to treat them well so that they get different thoughts about life, then we should let them out to kill more people. Hey that's not all we get in this special deal, not only will blood craving lunatics be allowed to.... be blood craving lunatics, but we will also convince others that the police don't give a shiz when it comes to killing, two for the price of one!
should have gotten a life in prison period.
QUOTE(Euro @ Dec 13 2005, 09:10 PM)
no... jet you obviously didn't read what he said... NO ONE has the right to kill, not even the government. No matter the crime. Remember, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Suffering in prison is 10 times worse then just dying and thats it. Unless you can prove to me hell exists, you have no argument against this.
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Well then, if nobody had the right to kill, he shouldn't have killed anybody.
Also, and eye for an eye doesn't make the world blind.
Fear is what makes the world go round, if you don't want to die, you probabaly shouldn't kill people.
He deserved death. He started one of the largest gangs in America and killed four people. And for those of you who say that his books proved that he had turned around, just know that the first book sold 330 copies and the second sold 2. He has done more wrong than good.
no ones deserves death. the government today should have a suicide order. like in Japan. if you didnt kill yourself it would be humiliating dishonor. since the americans today have no where near as much honor as the japanese back then if they didnt kill themselves they should get life in prison.
he had no right to kill those people but we have no right to kill him.
Frankly, I think he'd rather be dead than quarantined from the world.
If someone kills your family, then says sorry and says it won't happen again, would you trust them? People have escaped from jail before. Just think if he'd escaped. He mightv'e killed more people. Since he got injected, though, we're guarenteed to be ridden of him, and safe from him.
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If someone kills your family, then says sorry and says it won't happen again, would you trust them? People have escaped from jail before. Just think if he'd escaped. He mightv'e killed more people. Since he got injected, though, we're guarenteed to be ridden of him, and safe from him.
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I don't think it's fair to judge someone you have never met. What if he does NOT kill more people after he is released?
I think he shouldn't have died because he could have suggested how to help prevent gangs since unlike these politicians, policemen or guards, he KNOWS the behavior of gangsters. With his experience, I think he could have suggested methods of gang prevention that only people who have grown up similar to today's gangsters, would know.
Regardless of how he has changed, he still comitted those crimes, and he still had to be punished for them.
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no ones deserves death. the government today should have a suicide order. like in Japan. if you didnt kill yourself it would be humiliating dishonor. since the americans today have no where near as much honor as the japanese back then if they didnt kill themselves they should get life in prison.
he had no right to kill those people but we have no right to kill him.
Stop repeating yourself and read what I say.
One gang leader got killed because he murdered 4 people a long time ago. Only reason why this is even news, is because of his status. If I was arnold, and I had that much pressure on me, I would've let him go. You know, to make the people happy. He's in california, not texas.
I don't care about the death penalty. I'm for slavery. Instead of killing the guy, you make him a full complete slave. Simple as that. On day of his execution, you kill his rights as a human being.
QUOTE(Loser_Musician @ Dec 20 2005, 10:17 AM)
One gang leader got killed because he murdered 4 people a long time ago. Only reason why this is even news, is because of his status. If I was arnold, and I had that much pressure on me, I would've let him go. You know, to make the people happy. He's in california, not texas.
I don't care about the death penalty. I'm for slavery. Instead of killing the guy, you make him a full complete slave. Simple as that. On day of his execution, you kill his rights as a human being.
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Yeah, making someone your slave for the rest of their life is so much more humane.[/sarcasm]
I do believe you mean civilized. Humane is taken from the word human. And humans are not exactly fair creatures.