Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-20 at 14:36:38
That would be going against the constitution and thats bad occording to alot of people on this website.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-20 at 14:59:38
whats going against the constitution? 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-20 at 15:01:06
Bush going in to help with Kitrina with out a formal request from the state, which took 2+ days, which is why poeple are like "Bush didn't help with Kitrina for more then 2 DAYS bla bla bla"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-20 at 15:04:00
then the US is just fighting itself for no apparent reason... 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2005-12-20 at 15:51:36
but bush was and still is a terrible president. I swear DTBK could have done a better job preparing for Katrina...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-20 at 16:10:32
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Unorganized? We wiped out the iraqi army in less then a month, took the capital in days...
That would be because they were even more disorganised, mostly drunk, and with out-of-date weaponry.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by VizuaL on 2005-12-20 at 16:13:44
cause no body cared about popular vote
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-12-20 at 16:25:12
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Where is the oil? Gas prices are still on the rise.
Unorganized? We wiped out the iraqi army in less then a month, took the capital in days...
The only thing we did wrong was not forsee-ing a forgien insurgency.
And yes we freed the Iraqi people, and may I tell you that currently we are still finding mass grave sites, many scientists are considering this to be close to genocide numbers.
And Bush isn't a great president at all, but hes doing a better job with the things hes got, and he is not an idiot.
And the media is totally biased against Bush.
this poll is biased becuase already know SEN is full of Bush haters except maybe 2-4 people who are not, like some one said earlier this is pointless and proves nothing.
Unorganized? We wiped out the iraqi army in less then a month, took the capital in days...
The only thing we did wrong was not forsee-ing a forgien insurgency.
And yes we freed the Iraqi people, and may I tell you that currently we are still finding mass grave sites, many scientists are considering this to be close to genocide numbers.
And Bush isn't a great president at all, but hes doing a better job with the things hes got, and he is not an idiot.
And the media is totally biased against Bush.
this poll is biased becuase already know SEN is full of Bush haters except maybe 2-4 people who are not, like some one said earlier this is pointless and proves nothing.
1.the insurgency could be stopping this...
2. Uh yes unorganized, we have people dying, no time frame for a pullout, people getting kidnapped. We didn't say that it started out unorganized but it is now.
3. A majority of the iraqi people believe they are NOT better off now then before.
4. He is not an "extremely intelligent" president. As proven by his grades in high school, his problem with reading, and using the same words OVER AND OVER AND OVER! (war on terror, sacrifice, freedom, etc)
5. He has set this government on course to become a facist police state.
6. NSA..... 'nuff said.
7. They aren't biased against him.... they don't like him because of what hes done. Gone against the constitution and ordered the NSA (without court approval) to spy on AMERICANS in AMERICA!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-20 at 17:19:39
like I said, bias.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-12-20 at 17:42:30
not all media hates him. Fox is still the republican channel.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2005-12-20 at 18:31:45
I think he's an idiot. He's doing so much wrong in the world, imagine what the world would look today if he made good things instead of bad things.
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A computer - 200$
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A lamp - 20$
A computer - 200$
USA's depth to the world - Soon priceless
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-20 at 19:34:14
This isnt a bias situation... were just talking about how stupid his desicions were and that he needs to actually "command" the country and finish the "war" in Iraq. Bush isnt the ONLY one screwing around either... Cheney and C. Rice arent doing so hot either... Im sure he goes over everything with them to make a bad situation worse.
C.Rice "We need to work out a strategy to bring our boys home!"
Cheney "Yes... but FIRST we have to find Osama and stop him!"
Bush "Not before we establish a democracy in Iraq!"
C.Rice "Well at least send in trained troops who've experienced combat instead of new recruits"
Cheney "We'd be wasting time! We need to focus on finding Osama!"
Bush "The death toll of US troops isnt that high and besides... we're making great progress!"
C.Rice "We need to work out a strategy to bring our boys home!"
Cheney "Yes... but FIRST we have to find Osama and stop him!"
Bush "Not before we establish a democracy in Iraq!"
C.Rice "Well at least send in trained troops who've experienced combat instead of new recruits"
Cheney "We'd be wasting time! We need to focus on finding Osama!"
Bush "The death toll of US troops isnt that high and besides... we're making great progress!"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonshine on 2005-12-20 at 21:05:13
QUOTE(Pyro_Maniak14 @ Dec 21 2005, 08:34 AM)
This isnt a bias situation... were just talking about how stupid his desicions were and that he needs to actually "command" the country and finish the "war" in Iraq. Bush isnt the ONLY one screwing around either... Cheney and C. Rice arent doing so hot either... Im sure he goes over everything with them to make a bad situation worse.
C.Rice "We need to work out a strategy to bring our boys home!"
Cheney "Yes... but FIRST we have to find Osama and stop him!"
Bush "Not before we establish a democracy in Iraq!"
C.Rice "Well at least send in trained troops who've experienced combat instead of new recruits"
Cheney "We'd be wasting time! We need to focus on finding Osama!"
Bush "The death toll of US troops isnt that high and besides... we're making great progress!"
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C.Rice "We need to work out a strategy to bring our boys home!"
Cheney "Yes... but FIRST we have to find Osama and stop him!"
Bush "Not before we establish a democracy in Iraq!"
C.Rice "Well at least send in trained troops who've experienced combat instead of new recruits"
Cheney "We'd be wasting time! We need to focus on finding Osama!"
Bush "The death toll of US troops isnt that high and besides... we're making great progress!"
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That is the definition of a "bias situation." The majority of people believe in one viewpoint, and are much louder than the minority.
I also think that you're just pulling the information you post out of your ass. I'm pretty sure that Rice and Cheney have more than one item on their agendas, and I'm also sure that President Bush knows a hell of a lot more about the death toll than you do. Also, the president does not have the authority to kick governors out of office. Governors are not cabinet members, they are elected. Take a history course or two, read up on the constitution, then get back to the discussion at hand
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2005-12-20 at 21:06:01
well it is great progress. The killings of soldiers are not that high as it used to be when we first entered the war, the voting in iraq, and other good stuff that happened. Not to mention that Bush did his best not to conflict with the general. Due to his good first term and bad opponent, he was elected again... Not his fault...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-12-20 at 21:46:43
QUOTE(Pyro_Maniak14 @ Dec 20 2005, 01:25 PM)
Of course we can't change the fact that Bush is the president but that doesn't change the fact that he poorly organized the war... and that he didn't care about NO when Katrina hit him... All the supply trucks we're thousands of miles away from them... It took a few days for any supplies to get close to NO. Second... the war in Iraq is just making Iraq worse than it already is... Sure if Hussien was still in power... he would unjustily rule Iraq but if he WAS in power... civillian and US casualties would be down by 75%. First of all... when 9/11 came... Saddam had absolutely NOTHING to do with it... It was all Osama and his wonderful soldiers Ali-Zercowi or whatever his name is. Iraq was close to the conflict in Afghanistan and Bush sought to finish what his father started and capture Saddam. EVEN if they manage to establish a presidency in Iraq... within the next year... the president would most likely be assassinated by the insurgents. 
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I see more Blame in the Local officials than in Bush for the poor Katrina Aftermath.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2005-12-20 at 21:52:13
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I see more Blame in the Local officials than in Bush for the poor Katrina Aftermath.
But he knew it was coming. He could have prepared for it... It was partially local officials faults, yes, but then Bush has some faults too. He could have gathered some funds before the hit.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Caboose on 2005-12-20 at 21:59:54
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Third, and I'm not going to go into this heavily, I believe that the entire world is a better and safer place now that Saddam Hussein is out of power. Even more so, I firmly believe, that even with all the crap we hear about all the time regarding deaths of soldiers and civilians in Iraq, the Iraqi people are better off than they were before.
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Saddam Hussein wasn't doing anything and he was in alot of debt anyways and was trying to get out of it.... He wasn't doing anything bad at all. Well the debt part I saw on the History channel... meh.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-20 at 22:00:22
Even if local officials stopped him from sending supplies why should that stop him? Maybe he should've ignored the that whole ordeal and worried about the starving and helpless people in NO instead of slightly ruining his reputation because he went against the idiot govner of NO. Its not like the govner is gonna impeach him now is it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-20 at 22:12:10
This is hilarious, hate Bush for enabling an act that takes away some constitution rights (Patriot act), AND hate Bush FOR following the constitution!
Woo Hoo!!!!!
And Caboose,
Saddam killed at least 1 innocent civilian a day on average... thats doing something. He also shot at our planes during peace time...
Woo Hoo!!!!!
And Caboose,
Saddam killed at least 1 innocent civilian a day on average... thats doing something. He also shot at our planes during peace time...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-12-20 at 23:00:20
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But he knew it was coming. He could have prepared for it... It was partially local officials faults, yes, but then Bush has some faults too. He could have gathered some funds before the hit.
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Yes he saw it coming. After the Hurricane Struck, the federal Government tried contacting the NO gov officials but they wouldn't respond. The Mayor of NO was incompetent and wouldn't reply to the Fed Gov.
Most of the blame lies in those local officials (and most of them are fired.)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-21 at 00:36:57
From what you guys are saying... gov't officials are only in it for a the money and will only make an effort when their reputation is on the line...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-12-21 at 22:00:24
Saddam didn't shoot at our planes!!!! his soldiers did.... he was at his palace you fool 
Also... are you seriously going to say that him taking away some of our rights is not a reason to hate him? Ladies and gentlemen... we have a benadict arnold in our mist...
Also... are you seriously going to say that him taking away some of our rights is not a reason to hate him? Ladies and gentlemen... we have a benadict arnold in our mist...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-21 at 22:15:21
lol...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-22 at 03:04:32
Euro, technically its all based on opinion, whats reasonable and unreasonable and I think if the government is going to search you individually out of all the 200 million people then I think there is probable cause for what ever reason.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-22 at 03:09:37
QUOTE(Euro @ Dec 21 2005, 10:00 PM)
Saddam didn't shoot at our planes!!!! his soldiers did.... he was at his palace you fool
Also... are you seriously going to say that him taking away some of our rights is not a reason to hate him? Ladies and gentlemen... we have a benadict arnold in our mist...
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Yeah... soldiers under the COMMAND of Saddam... therefore HE did shoot at them... for all you know he was the shooter.
